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Old 04-29-2001, 02:17 AM   #1
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Post If a truck carrying new Subaru cars is involved in an accident...

and some of the new cars on the truck are damaged...what do they do with those cars?

Do they repair them and then go ahead and sell them as new?

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Old 04-29-2001, 04:42 AM   #2
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They repair them, and sell them with a "damaged in transit" type warning. Well honest dealers do. BMW got in trouble when a guy got a new 5 series with a repainted hood. Turns out the car got gravel damage in transport, and the dealer decided to sell it as new instead of fessing up. The manufacturer got stuck with the lawsuit though.
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Old 04-29-2001, 08:54 AM   #3
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Z is right, they are sold with a "salvage title" My escort had been crunched in the right front corner in tansit and they repaired it and sold it as such.
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Old 04-29-2001, 10:52 AM   #4
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Where are you at? I saw a carrier in a wreck around Eugene, OR on Monday. Didn't look like any of the cars were seriously damaged, but they could have been.
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Old 04-29-2001, 04:08 PM   #5
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That BMW case was brought against BMW by a man here in Birmingham. The jury awarded him one of the largest dollar ammounts for punitive damages, upwards of a couple hundred million, just for a hood!

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Old 04-29-2001, 04:15 PM   #6
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Safir, it must have been REALLY bad to have a salvage title! Here, in GA, I'm almost 100% sure that if the damaged done is under $250, the dealership doesn't have to report it. If it is over $250, then the dealership MUST inform all prospective clients that so and so damage was done to the car and has been already repaired.

I got this info from Edmunds.com newsgroup and checked with a saleman I know (local).
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Old 04-30-2001, 10:33 AM   #7
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If a truck carrying new Subaru cars is involved in an accident...Shiz... I'd hop onto that truck and drive off with one of those bad boys.. hehehe
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Old 04-30-2001, 10:56 AM   #8
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Some manufactures will scrap the cars. That way they will not be any law suit issues with the cars or parts.
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Old 04-30-2001, 12:09 PM   #9
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I think giving a man that kind of money is plain stupid. Give him the car, but millions of dollars, I don't think so. If I was BMW there would have been a lot more damage done to that car. Maybe while he was driving it. Seems like everybody is out to rip somebody off instead of earning it themselves.


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Old 04-30-2001, 12:29 PM   #10
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Just to clarify, the case was Gore v. BMW and the paintjobs were damaged by acid rain. The award was upwards of $2million, but reduced upon appeal. But keep in mind that it was a class action, so the money didn't go to this one guy...it was divided amongst the class of repainted-and-concealed-paint-job-BMW-owners.
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Old 04-30-2001, 12:36 PM   #11
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There is actually another BMW case in which a car was damaged at the dealership and was repaired but buyer was not told. In my Business Ethics class we studied that BMW case. In that particlular case he was also awarded an Million+ settlement. And it actually got reversed by higher court ruling and the guy only got the value of the vehicle back, I think it was like 60,000.

When my father worked at the dealership as mechanic, they had a body shop and they received all the car that has been damage in transit for te the whole area. So cars that had been damaged at the docks could be sent to a dealer and they would not even know about it. Mostly it was scuffed bumpers and door damage. Like another member said it is a certain amount before they have to disclose previous damage. OR if over that amount they can make it a demo or employee car and then sell it used and then not have to disclose.

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Old 04-30-2001, 12:43 PM   #12
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I remember that case. The car was rerpainted and the guy noticed the orange-peel. He sued for fraud because it was sold as new. I think that he was a lawyer and just trying to make a point. I don't really think that he was after that kind of money to be honest. It was more of the jury's doing. They wanted to send a message to big business not to F*** with the common man. They tried to pull something and were given a big reason not to ever again.
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Old 05-01-2001, 10:15 AM   #13
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Here in NC if the damage is less than 25% of the car, they don't have to tell you.
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Old 05-01-2001, 02:18 PM   #14
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I was expecting some sort of punchline here like:

If a truck carrying new Subaru cars is involved in an accident and there is a train leaving Chicago with 5,000lbs of bluefish travelling east at...

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Old 05-01-2001, 03:53 PM   #15
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Here in NC if the damage is less than 25% of the car, they don't have to tell you.
Where did you get this info? Is it 25% the MSRP or 25% the Invoice or 25% of the physical car? What's 25% mean?
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Old 05-01-2001, 09:57 PM   #16
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Imagine the mess if the boat carrying the first shipment of U.S. bound WRX's sank on its way over. What would Subaru do? Try and salvage the boat and sell the cars as "water damaged"? There's a funny thought. That is unless they are made here in the states. (Indiana?)
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Old 05-01-2001, 10:35 PM   #17
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BMW carrier truck, going under 12' bridge, shaved off roofs of the top cars. We're talking about 5-6 new M3 and M5s. Happened on Irving Park near Mid City Subaru a while back...Oh well!
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Old 05-02-2001, 01:10 AM   #18
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Back in 91/92 Nissan sold 91 300zx twin turbos for $25,000 thru Tri-state dealers. These cars sat on the docks in Elizabeth NJ and were slightly damaged by acid rain and repaired by a dealer in NJ. Nissan sold the cars to the dealers for $24,000 and permitted them to work for a grand! The bill of sale stated where the repaint was and any other repairs that were performed. Not bad for an awesome car with an msrp of almost $40,000.
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