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Old 11-24-2012, 11:26 PM   #51
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You obviously aren't married
His advice was actually pretty good. I've been married for over 7 years and I can tell you that my wife does not tell me what to buy...and I do not tell her what to get either. We discuss and come to agreement on what we want and as long as it isn't retarded, it works. When I went for the STI, all my wife said was: "is this really what you want?". I married the right woman When it came time to replace her rav4, all I did is suggested a Tribeca. She ended up loving it but if she wanted something else, it's her call.

Anyways, G37 is a very different car than WRX. It's more plush, refined, although that hi rev VQ37HR motor can be noisy in high RPMs. G37 is heavier than WRX and you'll notice the extra weight when you drive it. If you're planning to do any modding, WRX is a lot more mod friendly. The availability of parts is just much better than what Infinity will give you. Also, G37 is a RWD car which can be a handful in winter if you're not prepared for it. WRX will eat snow for breakfast if you put the right tires on it. So, in the end, it really comes down to what you want and how it fits into your lifestyle. I used to own 350Z and it was a fun car, similar to the G. I miss it sometimes but 99% of the time I love my Subaru.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:05 AM   #52
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actually the G37's are available with AWD now.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:17 AM   #53
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^ The Gs have had AWD since 2004 but they are strictly Auto

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Old 11-25-2012, 05:43 AM   #54
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Hhh obviously.
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Old 11-25-2012, 05:48 AM   #55
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A g is nothing but an overpriced Nissan, that's it. Worked at an Infiniti dealer for a little while and the interior doesn't hold up any better than their Nissan counterparts. The 37 was a little better than the 35, but not by much. But hey you can be cool and rebadge the g to be a skyline since that's what it's used for in japanland. I considered the 4door g some before the wrx but I personally hated the way the g felt driving around town.
Indeed. They look pretty clean neat n comfortable but 2 years and u start seeing the interior falling apart, leather everywhere changing color ... but still a nice car but wont chose it over a wrx. For example my bro loves the G, I am a subie guy. Thats something personal so get the car u feel it draw a smile on ur face every time u ride.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:06 AM   #56
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I almost parallel you. Married, house and cars (and motorcycles) with State Farm and pay $304 every 6 months for full coverage on my 07' WRX.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:08 AM   #57
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OP, make sure the stiff clutch on the WRX doesn't bug you. My wife drives a Mazda3 with a stick and the clutch is soooo much lighter than my car. My clutch is stock.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:24 AM   #58
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OP, make sure the stiff clutch on the WRX doesn't bug you. My wife drives a Mazda3 with a stick and the clutch is soooo much lighter than my car. My clutch is stock.
The WRX clutch is stiff? I always thought it was kinda light and lacking feel. I guess my legs are stronger than yours :P ( Tempted to pull out the "Do you even lift?!" card lol )
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:23 AM   #59
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On this tangent, I second our "sloppy" clutch feel. Subaru clutch systems are lacking imo- almost every other comparable manual system I've driven were smoother, tighter, "better" feeling.
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:39 PM   #60
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A friend of mine owns a G37xs. I've also auto-xed the thing. If you want awd, it's there. If you want a sport ride, it's there. The cart is well appointed and sores most things well. It's a well sized car but doesn't really feel it. A Subaru is a different market segment. Subaru will always be more practical. Acceleration and per isn't a lot different. The Nissan 6 is a good motor. The G37 is quieter and nicer to be in. The Subaru, especially wagons, are more functional.

Drive both, then decide.
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Old 11-27-2012, 03:26 PM   #61
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A friend of mine owns a G37xs. I've also auto-xed the thing. If you want awd, it's there. If you want a sport ride, it's there. The cart is well appointed and sores most things well. It's a well sized car but doesn't really feel it. A Subaru is a different market segment. Subaru will always be more practical. Acceleration and per isn't a lot different. The Nissan 6 is a good motor. The G37 is quieter and nicer to be in. The Subaru, especially wagons, are more functional.

Drive both, then decide.
AFAIK, Infinity employs adaptive AWD which means that the car is RWD most of the time and depending on throttle modulation and detection of slip, it engages other axles.

FWIW, I experienced this type of system on a toyota and it's a sorry excuse for AWD. The car becomes AWD after you loose traction. So, the car is reactive vs. proactive and the decision is made by the computer. Once the car starts slipping, the whole system freaks out, the dash lights up like a xmass tree with warning lights telling me I am slipping. NO S**T!!!!! "Hey, I couldn't elp but notice that you're well on your way into the ditch. I'll go ahead and enhance that experience by firing off sirens and being really annoying about it. Thank you for choosing Toyota." Now, things didn't used to be that way. But, in pursuit of better gas economy, companies started playing games with these systems and employed clever tactics to improve the numbers that go on that window sticker. Magically, AWD systems became more gas friendly. The clever part is that most consumers didn't know any better. Heck, AWD is AWD, right? Every time I see that Outback vs. Venza commercial, I cringe. Lies!!!!!

Anyways, I digress. It is important to note how different Infinity AWD system is from Subaru. It is not a AWD -> check type of decision. What you get on a Subaru is far superior in that regard. AFAIK, aside from Subaru, Audi is the only other car company for mortals that ships their cars with real AWD, not the "when I feel like flipping it on" AWD. Know what you're getting. Obviously, I used Toyota's system as my benchmark and it is likely that Inifinity's system is different but fundamentally, it has the same flaw. It relies on the computer to make decisions and does so on reactionary basis. All of this packed into a car at a 30 something price point. How good can it really be?

Side note: see Tribeca in my sig? Would you like to guess why I did not buy a Pilot?

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Old 11-27-2012, 04:19 PM   #62
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I'd go for a 335i with the N54 motor (forget which years off hand) since you don't need AWD. Just my opinion. Cobb just started supporting OTS maps for them and just stage 1 they make stupid power. But I like BMW's. Some people don't.

And I agree on the WRX having a stiff clutch. I drove my brother's GTI over the weekend and holy crap, that thing is as light as the throttle in that car. I had no idea where the engagement point was, just let it out and go. But it still shifted really well. Might want to put the GTI on R20 on your list (bit more $$ for the R).
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:20 PM   #63
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I agree with Ziggyrama. My drunk uncle ( who doesn't know **** about cars and failed his driving test 7 times. I've also literally watch him hit cars atleast 5 times trying to park ) was preaching to me on how to drive in snow. ( As if I'm an idiot. I've been "playing" in the snow since I was 12 in a Nissan Pathfinder ) He was asking "the uh drive" ( yes that's the quote ) of the Rogue, Altima, and My Car. I stood there with a "seriously?" face on pretending to listen to him. When I started to explain that just because a car says "AWD" on the trunk, doesn't mean it's true awd. He said "Nahh man, they are". I don't argue with people... I tend to just agree out of respect and walk away asap.
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:26 PM   #64
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Once the car starts slipping, the whole system freaks out, the dash lights up like a xmass tree with warning lights telling me I am slipping. NO S**T!!!!! "Hey, I couldn't elp but notice that you're well on your way into the ditch. I'll go ahead and enhance that experience by firing off sirens and being really annoying about it. Thank you for choosing Toyota."
Thank you for making my delicious and very dry granola snack shoot out of my nose and onto my work laptop
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Thank you for making my delicious and very dry granola snack shoot out of my nose and onto my work laptop
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:18 PM   #66
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I'd go for a 335i with the N54 motor (forget which years off hand) since you don't need AWD. Just my opinion. Cobb just started supporting OTS maps for them and just stage 1 they make stupid power. But I like BMW's. Some people don't.

And I agree on the WRX having a stiff clutch. I drove my brother's GTI over the weekend and holy crap, that thing is as light as the throttle in that car. I had no idea where the engagement point was, just let it out and go. But it still shifted really well. Might want to put the GTI on R20 on your list (bit more $$ for the R).
I test drove a used 335 xi coupe before I bought the WRX. Man that was such a nice car. Nice engine noise, crisp 6 speed gearbox, light as a feather clutch. But having owned a used Bimmer and a used S class in the past, and the amount of issues I have encountered with them, I decided to skip it. But I do hope to own a 335 or a 135 someday, along with the WRX of course. WRX will= DD, 135/335=Weekend Warrior/Summer car.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:59 PM   #67
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My girl and i shopped for a G37 sedan back in May. They handed us a consumer report magazine while we were waiting for them to try to low ball us on her car, and noticed that the G37 had MARGINAL rear crash ratings. I didn't think it was a big deal, but my girl was like, "Oh hell no, I'm not paying close to 40k for a brand new luxury car that has marginal rear crash ratings!" When she put it like that it made me think that it was kind of crazy the ratings in the rear are marginal for a luxury car.

Check this out:

http://www.cars.com/infiniti/g37/2009/safety-ratings/

and STI

http://www.cars.com/subaru/impreza-w...afety-ratings/

The crazy thing is that the ratings for the g37 in the link is for 09, so they have done nothing to fix the rear issues since 09.. I mean that is ridiculous... We ended up not getting the Infinity..

Also, we test drove a 12 TL SH-AWD while we were cross shopping.. I liked the seats better in the TL, and the car felt like it pulled a little stronger.. I did everything I could to try and convince her to get the TL.. We had them down to 34K (MSRP was close to 43k)with nav, and my girl just wouldn't do it.


EDIT: And to all you crazy people talking about the interior of the new Subaru's being bad, you must not have been in their older model cars.. It has come a LONG way since 2000.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:59 PM   #68
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I agree with Ziggyrama. My drunk uncle ( who doesn't know **** about cars and failed his driving test 7 times. I've also literally watch him hit cars atleast 5 times trying to park ) was preaching to me on how to drive in snow. ( As if I'm an idiot. I've been "playing" in the snow since I was 12 in a Nissan Pathfinder ) He was asking "the uh drive" ( yes that's the quote ) of the Rogue, Altima, and My Car. I stood there with a "seriously?" face on pretending to listen to him. When I started to explain that just because a car says "AWD" on the trunk, doesn't mean it's true awd. He said "Nahh man, they are". I don't argue with people... I tend to just agree out of respect and walk away asap.
Just an FYI the AWD system on the G35 and 37s are different from the systems in the Nissans above. the Gs uses the same AWD system as in GTRs, just the GTR uses is a "Pro" version
. the Gs system can actually be fully AWD until ~25mph then its sends power to the back.

So yea its still a reactive system but its much better than the FWD AWD systems found in the Nissan Rouge,Altima, murano...
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:13 AM   #69
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To the OP, have you not had any luck with getting a dealer to locate a car for you as opposed to ordering one? Sometimes it pays to shop for dealers that are willing to shop around for you.
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:13 AM   #70
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Just an FYI the AWD system on the G35 and 37s are different from the systems in the Nissans above. the Gs uses the same AWD system as in GTRs, just the GTR uses is a "Pro" version ATTESA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. the Gs system can actually be fully AWD until ~25mph then its sends power to the back.

So yea its still a reactive system but its much better than the FWD AWD systems found in the Nissan Rouge,Altima, murano...
Thank you fellow ex-G owner on posting this. We could only hope our Subaru AWD systems (even the STIs) was as good as Nissan ATTESA AWD system. It is light years ahead of what we have.
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:03 AM   #71
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Thank you fellow ex-G owner on posting this. We could only hope our Subaru AWD systems (even the STIs) was as good as Nissan ATTESA AWD system. It is light years ahead of what we have.
Yea man, its nuts seriously going to pick a fight over me explaining the different AWD systems used by Nissan?
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:51 PM   #72
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My dad has a G35X which is in a similar vein and I was really not that impressed. I think rear leg room is actually less than in my Subie. The car also weighs almost 4000lbs. I don't think you would have this issue, but he also averages about 12mpg during the winter unless he drives it an extended distance. He still only gets like 18-20mpg on the high end, which in my opinion is extremely poor for a sedan.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:59 PM   #73
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I'd go Subaru, but thats me an I personally hate the way the 4 door G37 looks. As stated repeatedly, test drive both and see what you prefer. After driving the WRX you won't like the G37, It has much less of a drivers car feel to it, but it is nice inside.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:04 PM   #74
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Maintenance i hear is much more expensive for the Inifiniti, something to think about.
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Old 12-03-2012, 03:24 AM   #75
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Maintenance i hear is much more expensive for the Inifiniti, something to think about.
Absolutely not. It's a very cheap car to maintain. I had one for over 7 years prior to picking up my WRX. If anything, WRXs are more maintenance intensive.
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