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Old 11-13-2012, 03:37 AM   #1
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I'm working on a backseat tub for protecting my wagon and hauling. Since this requires the backseat to lay completely flat, the bottom of the backseat needs to be removed, and I wanted a fast, tool less option.

Tools needed:
Dremel with grinding stone
Grinding wheel for dremel or jigsaw
Vice or similar clamp
Needlenose or other small pliers
Drill with 1/8" bit

At Lowes or Home Depot pick up a pair of Cotterless 1/4 x 1 1/4" Hitch Pins and a pair of 5/8" D Rings:


Remove the 2 bolts holding the backseat down and insert one of the hitch pins in a hole, then pull it out until it catches. Mark with a sharpie just beyond the seat retaining bar:

Remove the loop and clamp or vice the pin, then score that sharpie point with the grinding stone to create a dip for the drill bit:

Drill into the pin, then cut off the pin about 1/4" down from the holes with the dremel or jigsaw. Score the cut end and the holes with the grinding stone:

Reusing the old loop won't work because it just sticks straight out when the pin is held tight. Open up one of the D Rings and then clamp it back down through the hole:

And here is how it looks installed, it is pressed all the way back, the D Ring holds against the seat metal quite well:

If you put anything of significant weight on the seat back, get a couple of body pillows for protection and resistance:
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:38 AM   #2
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This is pretty cool.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:55 AM   #3
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Meh, the seat bottom is the easy part - it's just 2 bolts. The seat back is the bear, if anything.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:39 AM   #4
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Meh, the seat bottom is the easy part - it's just 2 bolts. The seat back is the bear, if anything.
Fine, my next DIY will be a full track day quick release kit
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:33 PM   #5
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My quick release (in a sedan) is leaving the bolts out PO stripped them out
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:46 PM   #6
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My quick release (in a sedan) is leaving the bolts out PO stripped them out
If you're up for trying this with a 5/16" or 3/8" pin and drilling out if needed, post here if it works, i bet some guys with track days have the same issue. These pins are less than $2 apiece.
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:53 PM   #7
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I might try it at some point, I have also considered something like this: http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/produ...Fal_Qgod0F0Avg

Kind of an expensive option though, you'd be amazed at how well the seat stays in place without being properly secured I really do need to do something though, empty holes bug me. What I'll like do is drill them to the next standard thread size and put stainless button head allen bolts in it or something.
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:04 PM   #8
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Do you have a measured length on this? There are significantly more lengths of these pins available from mcmaster than HDR. So its likely possible to have a no cutting required solution.
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:49 PM   #9
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I cut off about 3/8" from the 1 1/4" pin unfortunately, with different brands I bet the securing ball will be at different distances from the end. I'd say spend the $2 and measure one, a good enough online pic might be able to help you pin down the ball measurement.
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:52 AM   #10
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Im sure you could also find some wing bolts (like wing nuts but bolts ) and then you could put those in by hand and you wouldnt need any tools it would also stay threaded in.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:25 AM   #11
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Lol wing bolts, that is very clever.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:44 PM   #12
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Too much work for 10 lbs.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:51 PM   #13
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I like this idea and want to do it with my rear strut bar.

Why didn't you just reuse the wire loop the pins originally came with? Its much prettier.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:08 AM   #14
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I like this idea and want to do it with my rear strut bar.

Why didn't you just reuse the wire loop the pins originally came with? Its much prettier.
I agree and planned to, but when the ball catches in the car, that loop stocks straight out, it's just too far. I'm hoping someone will see this thread and immediately think of a part that will work. I'm hoping to stop by Home Depot or Lowes and thumb through through their clips bin myself to see if I come across anything. I already know that a cotter pin with two points that can fit through the drill hole could be bent so the two points come through and then are bent opposite each other to brace the seat bar and the loop on the other side could be bent forward for a point to pull from. That's my best idea so far, just haven't been back to see if such a pin is readily available. If it worked right, you might even be able to slide that cotter pin around a washer like I've done.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:22 AM   #15
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You could use a hair pin clip, you should find those in HDR right next to where you found the hitch pins.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:26 AM   #16
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this is great! stripped mine out the first time I took my backseat out lol
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:38 AM   #17
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You could use a hair pin clip, you should find those in HDR right next to where you found the hitch pins.
I think this is actually what I meant rather than a Cotter pin, for some reason I thought they had the same name.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:39 AM   #18
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I think this is actually what I meant rather than a Cotter pin, for some reason I thought they had the same name.
Ok, back to the HD, cotter pins were what I was looking for, but the D Rings were simpler, easier, and look WAY cleaner. Reedited the first post to instruct the use of these instead. If you've already made these, the D Rings are only 60 cents.
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