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Old 07-08-2011, 06:04 PM   #1
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Default Cobb OTS Tune: 2009 wrx 2.5L stage 2, 280whp/280wtq

Event: dyno pull
Location: PRE racing, portland
Ambient Temp: ~60F. IAT's of 70-80F
Elevation: unknown (~sea level?)
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Car: 2009 wrx
Tuner: Cobb OTS stage 2 map 91oct
Dyno Info: Dyno Dynamics
Transmission: stock 5spd
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 280 whp, uncorrected
Peak Torque at RPM: 280 wtq, uncorrected
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: unknown
Target Boost: 17
Target AFR: too lazy to check
Fuel: 92
Engine/Power Modifications: Cobb catted downpipe, Invidia N1 race cat back, whistle tips (jk )
Driveline Modifications: stock
Suspension Modifications: Epic engineering RSB, Epic lower springs
Other Modifications: short shifter, enkei nt03+m 18's



not sure whether to be happy about this. lots of folks on cobb's dyno are breaking 300wtq. saw that bobby tuned a 2010 wrx with a downpipe that crested 300wtq on this same dyno too. i suppose a protune would get me up there also. still really wanted to hit 300. spooling pretty late too
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Old 07-08-2011, 06:29 PM   #2
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By OTS tune, do you mean that this tune is off the AccessPort?
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Old 07-08-2011, 06:46 PM   #3
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^that's right
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Old 07-08-2011, 06:48 PM   #4
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Daily conditions can make up that difference almost completely.280/280 is solid numbers with an off the shelf tune.
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Old 07-08-2011, 11:54 PM   #5
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Get a protune but thats pretty good for an OTS.
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Old 07-09-2011, 11:22 AM   #6
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still debating whether it's worth dropping $450 for a 20hp bump :/
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:48 PM   #7
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Not just more hp, more drivability.
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:25 PM   #8
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Faster spool too
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:01 PM   #9
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ahh jeez, you guys are gonna make me spend more money on my car

i was supposed to be done about $1900 ago. this is my DD too so need to go too far with it.

i figured if i did get it tuned, i would want to get an intake, new intercooler, and a new bypass valve. that's at least another $1k to $1.5k tune included. :facepalm: friggin' mod bug
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Old 07-10-2011, 03:46 PM   #10
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Ouch at not hitting the magical 300tq #.
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:31 PM   #11
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I was supposed to be done 6000 ago... **** happens. Went stage 2, engine went boom, new built engine and protune still awaiting completion...
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:29 AM   #12
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You could have spent the money on a pro tune instead of an accessport and you'd have what you want and spent the same or less money...

Can't see the curve as my internet out here blocks everrry image everrr.. but 280WHP for a TBE + tune is good in my book But I'm from the pre-VF52 generation.
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:14 AM   #13
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Download Access Tuner Race for free and tune it yourself.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:00 AM   #14
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I had my STi protuned using the AP and I felt good about it.
What I would do if I was you would be to get Headers, and a cold air or short ram with a cold box and then get it protuned.

When I went from my OTS tune to the protune they were able to bring boost on earlier and brought up the torque.

I'd also get the headers coated, but that is me and take my words wit ha grain of salt.

My tune with a 73 mm SRI with cold box and a coated Perrin catted DP gave me 293 whp 325 wtq at EFI Logics on a mustang Dyno..

Beyond a full turboback, headers and intake you get into decreased fuel economy (since the next step is meth/E85 or bigger turbo) and with that comes worse reliability.
Also if I had a WRX I'd worry about the tranny beyond what I suggested.

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Old 07-13-2011, 12:41 PM   #15
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Wait until you add another part to get a protune in my opinion. Next, you could do a TMIC and re-circulating BPV and then get the custom tune and you'd see a nice increase.
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still debating whether it's worth dropping $450 for a 20hp bump :/
not everyone charges that much for a protune

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and are you comparing to others on 91 oct? or are the people you're seeing hit 300 on 93?
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:41 PM   #17
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and are you comparing to others on 91 oct? or are the people you're seeing hit 300 on 93?

good point. i'm just looking at cobb's online database. if i'm not mistaken, those are protunes with many of them being 92, but cobb's official numbers on their website should be from the very map i'm using so i assume it is 91 oct. don't think i'd be making 20 wtq just from jumping to 93 oct, but who knows.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:43 PM   #18
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I live and tune in cali and 91oct sucks balls. 20wtq is easily had switching from 91 to 93.

Cars on 93 oct can take more boost and 4-6* more timing than cars on 91 oct.
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then, i guess i'm pretty much on target with the car. i'm only boosting to 16psi and it's crazy rich. probably go for a tune if i can ever figure out where the hell my engine is sipping on coolant... but that's another story.
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then, i guess i'm pretty much on target with the car. i'm only boosting to 16psi and it's crazy rich. probably go for a tune if i can ever figure out where the hell my engine is sipping on coolant... but that's another story.
18psi definitely achievable on these cars with a protune. Some even go a little higher on 93 octane.
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All those graphs on Cobb's site (even if you click on 91 octane map) are for 93 octane. I had the same let down when i went stage 2. Only 91 octane in Oregon.
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good numbers must still feel a big difference. 09 and up are putting up huge numbers with minimal mods with a protune i bet youll crest 300 like you want.
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All those graphs on Cobb's site (even if you click on 91 octane map) are for 93 octane. I had the same let down when i went stage 2. Only 91 octane in Oregon.
wait, what? i'm talking about here: http://accessecu.com/dyno/

they specify the octane rating on each tune. most of them are 92. oregon has 92, not 91. since the available maps are only 91 and 93, all of the maps denoted 92 should be tuned by tim himself.

i did look at plano and austin charts, where they have 91 oct. consistently, they are getting more wtq, but less whp than me is what it seems. a few with peak torque at >= 3500 also. yeah, it seems my car is fine outside of the huge drop in mpg's. used to get 24, now i'm always sitting at 21 in mostly highway driving at 65mph
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Old 07-15-2011, 12:51 PM   #24
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I've been tuned on both PRE and Surgeline dynos. At PRE I made similar numbers to you. The same tune run as a baseline at Surgeline had peak torque of about 300, and coming in about 500 rpm sooner. So I suspect you are right were you should be, just a different dyno.
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Ive always seen 91/92 grouped together. Cobb tuning in the thread below states that 92 octane (at least in Oregon) is basically the same as 91.

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/3279608-post9.html
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