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Old 11-16-2012, 07:42 PM   #1
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Default Does your car ever stop feeling slow?

I feel like some sort of addict, I had my car tuned about a month ago and it felt fast for like a week now its back to not being all that impressive anymore, i'd almost say it is starting to feel kind of slow. Its a 00 Impreza RS w/a built EJ205 swap and a VF30, makes 305whp in a car that weighs 2600lbs with me in it. About the same power to weight ratio as a stock weight STi with like 390whp. I had the same thing happen too after I got a stage 2 tune on it.

Anyways do you ever get to a point where this stops happening or do you never stop wanting more?
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:44 PM   #2
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No, my car is very fast and I feel like it is very fast.

2003 Outback with EJ25 SOHC, Delta 1500 cams (+100hp). It's got wicked torque steer.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:09 PM   #3
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Er..I hope you are finding this out on the track or auto-x event.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:12 PM   #4
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man.....i was making a coworker scared just going WOT on the gravel road to the jobsite.....never went over 70...but he was ****tin his pants

he HAD said 'that lil jap car aint got ****'.....i think he changed his mind after the first couple miles
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:27 PM   #5
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Nope,

Solution is to buy a slow POS for a daily driver, you will really appreciate the power of even a stock WRX.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:28 PM   #6
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No, my car is very fast and I feel like it is very fast.

2003 Outback with EJ25 SOHC, Delta 1500 cams (+100hp). It's got wicked torque steer.

Why exactly do you think Delta 1500s gained you 100hp?

Either that was a typo, or you are a huge BS'er.

And torque steer? WTF are you talking about?
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:31 PM   #7
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Why exactly do you think Delta 1500s gained you 100hp?

Either that was a typo, or you are a huge BS'er.

And torque steer? WTF are you talking about?
Sarcasm, chief. He haz it.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:32 PM   #8
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Nope,

Solution is to buy a slow POS for a daily driver, you will really appreciate the power of even a stock WRX.
this is the most effective way to never have your WRX feel slow. rock a junk d series honda civic as a daily, and that WRX will feel like a rocket ship.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:37 PM   #9
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Er..I hope you are finding this out on the track or auto-x event.
I drive relatively slowly unless i'm in the middle of nowhere, even then i'm not dangerous.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:38 PM   #10
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Sarcasm, chief. He haz it.

I guess that would make sense, post-whoring, sarcastic remarks are ever so helpful.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:41 PM   #11
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If you daily drive your car, you become accustomed to having a powerful vehicle and think its normal until you drive something that is slower. I think it happens with any vehicle you drive daily.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:51 PM   #12
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Why exactly do you think Delta 1500s gained you 100hp?

Either that was a typo, or you are a huge BS'er.

And torque steer? WTF are you talking about?
It may be a high reading dyno, but given that the baseline was done on the same dyno, it's probably pretty accurate +/- 10.

The torque steer is something I'm still investigating. Presumably it has something to do with driveline lash and the weight balance of the car; one side has more weight/traction so it pulls that way. I'm experimenting with front mount spoilers to help keep the front end down. If you're not familiar with Outbacks, they have a winglike profile that isn't typically a problem at stock power levels but can lead to unwanted lift when you kick the torque up as much as I have. It also causes oiling issues, but that can be remedied by using self-oiling engine internals. All these things have to be considered when building a monster, I can help you out if you're interested.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:58 PM   #13
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It seems really fast when you come into an intersection hot at 40, and the guy in front of you suddenly stops, so you go right around his side, and a guy pulls out in front of you doing a right on red. That seems fast.

Or try telling a state trooper that your 0-60 in seven seconds car is really slow, when you just got pulled over for doing 90+ in a 55.

Once you go to the track, driving on the street seems different, and HP doesn't matter so much anymore. I drove a single seat race car at the auto cross this summer, a quick car, and it was totally over my skill level and reaction times on that course. I would have had to run 25 laps to get the hang of it.

On the street I tend to stick to non-felony speeds, and I like a car that is strong through the gears and not so slow as to be insulting. I have had some decently fast cars that felt pretty slow, until I passed someone, and I have had some pretty slow cars that seemed pretty fast, because you had to shift so often, and the thing keeps redlining.

Generally speaking, cars are magical if you have been riding a bicycle, but speed is addictive, and it is hard to go back to the previous level once you get used to something faster. I could scare the crap out of a lot of people in a stock Miata with good tires on the right road, and I could seriously hurt myself on a mountain bike at the speeds you can attain on a good downhill section.

Join the SCCA and go autocrossing. It is an awesome and humbling experience. Or do some driver's ed days on a local track. Cars aren't slow, drivers are.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:02 PM   #14
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It may be a high reading dyno, but given that the baseline was done on the same dyno, it's probably pretty accurate +/- 10.

The torque steer is something I'm still investigating. Presumably it has something to do with driveline lash and the weight balance of the car; one side has more weight/traction so it pulls that way. I'm experimenting with front mount spoilers to help keep the front end down. If you're not familiar with Outbacks, they have a winglike profile that isn't typically a problem at stock power levels but can lead to unwanted lift when you kick the torque up as much as I have. It also causes oiling issues, but that can be remedied by using self-oiling engine internals. All these things have to be considered when building a monster, I can help you out if you're interested.
I'm interested in the engine modifications that you have done in order to achieve enough torque to torque steer an AWD outback.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:09 PM   #15
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I'm interested in the engine modifications that you have done in order to achieve enough torque to torque steer an AWD outback.
Two words! In Take!

Just messing around buddy, one does not simply sashay into Mordor, nor does one simply make power out of a naturally aspirated Subaru engine. Although the cams made a great difference, my car is slow as balls...but it's fine. Speed isn't really a concern with me; I like driving no matter what.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:22 PM   #16
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Nope,

Solution is to buy a slow POS for a daily driver, you will really appreciate the power of even a stock WRX.
This is ++
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:26 PM   #17
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Anyways do you ever get to a point where this stops happening or do you never stop wanting more?
Sometimes different priorities in life become more important. I'd much rather put $5000 into my house (like I did last week renovating a room) than my car any day. Much more financially sensible.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:57 PM   #18
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You'll never be satisfied once u start modding. You'll get used to your power level not matter how much your making. There comes a time though when it goes from daily driver to full race car and that's where most draw the line. Well that or they run outta money.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:04 PM   #19
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this is the most effective way to never have your WRX feel slow. rock a junk d series honda civic as a daily, and that WRX will feel like a rocket ship.
X3... When I had a 2006 Mustang GT even it felt fast after driving my 1997 Civic EX Coupe. I used to laugh my @ss off every time that Civic hit VTEC. It seemed like it made a lot of noise for going nowhere slow.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:41 PM   #20
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Just drive someone else's "normal" car for a day or even a small trip. I drive my gf's car quite often and then getting back in mine I'm like whooaaa....
Also helps that I baby my car like crazy, so the very few times that I do give it some gas and speed up to 50 I am impressed.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:20 AM   #21
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100k on my 08, stage 2+ protune never feels slow to me... Still want more power, but I love my car.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:26 AM   #22
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It may be a high reading dyno, but given that the baseline was done on the same dyno, it's probably pretty accurate +/- 10.

The torque steer is something I'm still investigating. Presumably it has something to do with driveline lash and the weight balance of the car; one side has more weight/traction so it pulls that way. I'm experimenting with front mount spoilers to help keep the front end down. If you're not familiar with Outbacks, they have a winglike profile that isn't typically a problem at stock power levels but can lead to unwanted lift when you kick the torque up as much as I have. It also causes oiling issues, but that can be remedied by using self-oiling engine internals. All these things have to be considered when building a monster, I can help you out if you're interested.
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