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Old 11-30-2012, 12:35 AM   #1
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Default short shifter with extremely short distance?

I pulled an SRT4 into work today.
I'm not sure if the shifter was stock or not but it was an incredible short shifter.
There was probably about 1/2" gap from 1st to 2nd.
It was very smooth and clicked right into gear.

Any ideas of short shifters for our cars that are similar? Or are all short shifters like that?
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:46 AM   #2
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MODE/COBB shifter adjusted for min throw, shortest height.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:49 AM   #3
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not easy to do with subarus...remember...there is the throw and the length....both can be short or not...and they are not the same
i have a cobb double adjustable shifter(sorry Tom) that i really like because you can make it the way YOU want it...i drove around with the console cover off for a few days while i played with it and got it the way i wanted it...which wasnt as easy as i thought it was gonna be

i knew a guy who modded/welded a stock shifter to make it SHORT..both the throw and the length--it was about 6" or 7" long in total...and he thought it was great...i thought it was stupid.

mine is pretty short...the throw and the length.... and i use a heavy knob and it works well for me
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:56 AM   #4
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MODE/COBB shifter adjusted for min throw, shortest height.
MODE is no more.....at least as far as short shifters is concerned

cobb is it
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:59 AM   #5
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The picture on here looks about double the distance as the shifter in the SRT4

http://www.cobbtuning.com/Subaru-Dou...r-p/212315.htm
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:00 AM   #6
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Thanks for the intel, it's what happens when I just regurgitate what I read on the web.

To the OP, good luck getting that smooth shift down. I have all of the bushings installed and a 1+ lb shift knob, and the shifting still isn't as smooth as I thought it would be. You can still feel every time it notches in.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:22 AM   #7
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Kartboy is pretty short too... Not sure why you'd need it much shorter anyway. Weighted knobs will help to make up for the "longer" throws??
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:50 AM   #8
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The picture on here looks about double the distance as the shifter in the SRT4

http://www.cobbtuning.com/Subaru-Dou...r-p/212315.htm
That's about as good as it is going to get.

It's shorter than you think. I had one and before I adjusted it to be a longer throw I had thinking I was not in gear.

Also it is hard to compare between cars, the SRT4 probably uses shifter cables right?
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:52 AM   #9
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The picture on here looks about double the distance as the shifter in the SRT4

http://www.cobbtuning.com/Subaru-Dou...r-p/212315.htm

if you shorten the length all the way...it is pretty damned short

mine is almost all the way down and the top of the blue aluminum body is just far enough from the bottom of the knob to get the boot in between

that is pretty short
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:04 AM   #10
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Yep, the MODE/COBB is going to be the shortest you can find (if you set it up right). For the absolute shortest throws and height, you will want the bottom section as tall as possible and the top section as short as possible. To raise the bottom section up as much as you can you will have to modify the bracket around the shifter or else the linkage will hit.

PS. I still always type MODE/COBB because they are the same thing. COBB was first, but then stopped making shifters, so they were sold under the MODE name (same product). Then COBB decided to make shifters again so the MODE version was phased out. If you're looking on the used market you can get either. If you're buying new, it will be COBB, because that's all that's out there.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:06 AM   #11
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It's shorter than you think. I had one and before I adjusted it to be a longer throw I had thinking I was not in gear.
this. Been there, done that, with two cars now. First was a 97 prelude with a Jtc customs shifter, and my last STI before it got totaled had a Mode short throw. I loved it. I wanted short throws, and short height. There is a point where driving seems sketchy.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:14 AM   #12
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Some of the SRT4 short shifts were insanely short, I don't think we'll ever see that IMO
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:30 AM   #13
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Yes, the way the Subaru transmission/shifter linkages are designed it won't end up being as short as some other models, no matter what short shifter you put in. With the COBB/MODE you can adjust it so short that it start to bind, feel notchy, and overall be unpleasant. You will just have to figure out how short you can put up with.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:01 AM   #14
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Some of the SRT4 short shifts were insanely short, I don't think we'll ever see that IMO
This. The WRX is a direct linkage shifter. The SRT4 uses shifter cables. That is what allows for the super short shifter in the SRT4 (and many Hondas among many others) IMO. There's only so far you can manipulate the throw/height and still have the linkage work, especially with the fixed pivot.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:51 AM   #15
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I have a 07 STI with a B&M Short Throw shifter.

I have owned/driven mustangs, gto, porsches, cameros, and a srt-4 all with short throws. Out of all the short throws i have set up and driven by far the shortest shifter was my SRT-4. I used a Boomba shifter with modified bushings (i cut them myself). The throw rate was about 3/8 to neutral ....3/4" total throw.

If you are looking to get as short of throw as possible out of a wrx 5-speed..... i dont know much but i will tell you this my B&M in my STI is about a 1 1/4 or less total throw.....but they aren't made any more.

Things that also will help you shift faster as you see mentioned are weighted shifters.... and bushings. Adjustable heights will help too. One thing that i also noticed is the transmission mount on the subaru seen to help too. don't know why.... but it does.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:01 PM   #16
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also look at these..... they are pretty new to the market


http://www.twmperformance.com
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:12 PM   #17
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There are also hacksaws to go ubershort :-)
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:07 PM   #18
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also look at these..... they are pretty new to the market


http://www.twmperformance.com
Nope, I have one and it's not all that short. Definitely shorter than the stocker, but the throw is still decent.

I had a MGW shifter on my mustangs and that had a super short through. Like maybe 2" between 1-2. Best part about it was it was stiff and had zero movement when you were in a gear. Can't say that about my wrx shifter, even with poly bushings and all that.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:12 PM   #19
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jeez this made me go look at my old posts at SRTForums, so much drama over there back in the day
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:06 PM   #20
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jeez this made me go look at my old posts at SRTForums, so much drama over there back in the day

Then you will remember all the drama with the 2nd and 3rd gear too...lol POS car
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:56 PM   #21
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SRT4 don't even have the engine/trans in the right direction.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:01 PM   #22
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There is a difference between shifter height and throw. They blend as the shifter assembly angles but you can cut and thread the stock shifter to *kinda* see how a super short shifter would feel.


Example of short throw vs short shifter:
Real standard race cars have a long shifter but short throw. So they can keep their hands around steering wheel level and just bump the shifter to change gears.
Poor man's short shifter is take a stock part, chop down most of it, and thread the knob back on. Short height but still have the same throw distance to change gears. Throw is effectively reduced by geometry but point is still valid.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:05 PM   #23
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I like my TWM, very short throw
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:23 PM   #24
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save your money and get an eBay shifter. I bought a non-adjustable one thats exactly the same as kart boy for $20, but there's also adjustable ones on there.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:31 AM   #25
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+1 for Cobb. have ran the same one in both my subies
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