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Old 11-25-2012, 11:22 PM   #1
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Default Should I trade my 2011 WRX for a 370Z?

I've got a 2011 WRX with about 17,000 miles and I've been thinking about trading it in for maybe a new Nissan 370z. I live in California so I don't need the AWD and practicality of it and when I do go up to Tahoe I have a larger SUV which also has AWD that we take anyways.

Some reasons why I'm thinking about trading my car in is because recently my car started having some strange squeaking noise coming form the pedal. I took it into the dealership and they found that my throw out bearing as well as some other components were going bad. I did a little research and it looks like a common enough problem that my dealership ended up replacing everything plus giving me a brand new clutch all covered under warranty work for free.

This is great and all but about 3 weeks after I got everything repaired I noticed my clutch squeaking again...

On top of that I know our cars may be notorious for having "ringland" issues?

Concerns about long-term reliability are a huge issue for me. I know that the Nissan 370Z is a totally different beast... AWD vs RWD and sports coupe vs sedan but the Nissan is the only real car I'm interested in.

I've looked at the Evo X, FRS, and BRZ but none of them really catch my eye.

If anyone could chime in on their thoughts about this I'd really appreciate it. Asking around everyone just says keep the Subaru... I'd love to keep my car but I would really hate to be struck with a string of problems as soon as my warranty goes out next year

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Old 11-25-2012, 11:28 PM   #2
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If you're concerned about the reliability of our cars, just do what makes you happy and get a 370Z. I'm sure every car has its share of problems so it's just a matter of time.
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:29 PM   #3
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trade it for a yugo
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:31 PM   #4
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trade it for a yugo
Or an old gremlin lol
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:32 PM   #5
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A 370Z is alot different then a WRX. You should know which one you want pretty easily.
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:37 PM   #6
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I've got a 2011 WRX with about 17,000 miles and I've been thinking about trading it in for maybe a new Nissan 370z. I live in California so I don't need the AWD and practicality of it and when I do go up to Tahoe I have a larger SUV which also has AWD that we take anyways.

Some reasons why I'm thinking about trading my car in is because recently my car started having some strange squeaking noise coming form the pedal. I took it into the dealership and they found that my throw out bearing as well as some other components were going bad. I did a little research and it looks like a common enough problem that my dealership ended up replacing everything plus giving me a brand new clutch all covered under warranty work for free.

This is great and all but about 3 weeks after I got everything repaired I noticed my clutch squeaking again...

On top of that I know our cars may be notorious for having "ringland" issues?

Concerns about long-term reliability are a huge issue for me. I know that the Nissan 370Z is a totally different beast... AWD vs RWD and sports coupe vs sedan but the Nissan is the only real car I'm interested in.

I've looked at the Evo X, FRS, and BRZ but none of them really catch my eye.

If anyone could chime in on their thoughts about this I'd really appreciate it. Asking around everyone just says keep the Subaru... I'd love to keep my car but I would really hate to be struck with a string of problems as soon as my warranty goes out next year

Thanks
Wrx to 370z isn't going to make a reliability difference.

I also don't like that the Z is a tiny roadster but weighs as much as a wrx.

Ringland issues are mainly fear mongering. The failure is rare and even rarer if you flash stage 1 to get rid of that lean portion.
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:37 PM   #7
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A 370Z is alot different then a WRX. You should know which one you want pretty easily.
Yeah they are both very different cars. Just trying to get thoughts on if should leave the Subie for a rwd. I don't want any regrets
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:04 AM   #8
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BRZ don't leave subaru for a rwd.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:13 AM   #9
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Wrx to 370z isn't going to make a reliability difference.

I also don't like that the Z is a tiny roadster but weighs as much as a wrx.

Ringland issues are mainly fear mongering. The failure is rare and even rarer if you flash stage 1 to get rid of that lean portion.
The z is a coupe and has a much bigger engine
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:14 AM   #10
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If you are looking at a 370z get a genesis v6 and save 10k and have more power and a 10 year warranty
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:23 AM   #11
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Time for research and test drive/s! I completely understand your attraction to the 370Z. I'd be driving one if I didn't need an AWD Tahoe car. Have you read the long term tests?
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:38 AM   #12
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If you are looking at a 370z get a genesis v6 and save 10k and have more power and a 10 year warranty
While I like the Genesis Coupe (I own one) the price difference in a base V6 genesis coupe and a base 370z is closer to $4k, not $10k.

I previously owned a 350z and have owned a long line of 2 seater rwd sports cars before owning my WRX. The WRX is a better daily driver with a more compliant suspension than a 350z/370z, having AWD it is better for all weather driving, and it is obviously more practical than any 2 seater. The 370z does have a more raw sporty driving feel than the WRX, so if that is what you are after go for it. However, if the only reason that you want to get rid of your WRX is because of a squeaky clutch pedal and potential future reliability problems, then you may never be happy with any car as they will all have their own potential issues. Your car is still under warranty for quite a while, just let your dealership fix the problems and stop worrying!
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:39 AM   #13
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Time for research and test drive/s! I completely understand your attraction to the 370Z. I'd be driving one if I didn't need an AWD Tahoe car. Have you read the long term tests?
Exactly, I love the Subie but from a practical point of view I have other cars that do the job better than my WRX. I'm just looking for a sporty DD as well as maybe a weekend track car.

The BRZ is a great car and I hate to be "one of those guys" that complain about hp but 200hp is just not enough for a car at it's price. Friends of mine that have FRS's love the handling but do also complain about the lack of power
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:41 AM   #14
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While I like the Genesis Coupe (I own one) the price difference in a base V6 genesis coupe and a base 370z is closer to $4k, not $10k.

I previously owned a 350z and have owned a long line of 2 seater rwd sports cars before owning my WRX. The WRX is a better daily driver with a more compliant suspension than a 350z/370z, having AWD it is better for all weather driving, and it is obviously more practical than any 2 seater. The 370z does have a more raw sporty driving feel than the WRX, so if that is what you are after go for it. However, if the only reason that you want to get rid of your WRX is because of a squeaky clutch pedal and potential future reliability problems, then you may never be happy with any car as they will all have their own potential issues. Your car is still under warranty for quite a while, just let your dealership fix the problems and stop worrying!
I owned a 300ZX for awhile and loved the car even though it was older. I'm just afraid the WRX will give me more problems in the future that I'll be paying for out of pocket.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:44 AM   #15
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While I like the Genesis Coupe (I own one) the price difference in a base V6 genesis coupe and a base 370z is closer to $4k, not $10k.

I previously owned a 350z and have owned a long line of 2 seater rwd sports cars before owning my WRX. The WRX is a better daily driver with a more compliant suspension than a 350z/370z, having AWD it is better for all weather driving, and it is obviously more practical than any 2 seater. The 370z does have a more raw sporty driving feel than the WRX, so if that is what you are after go for it. However, if the only reason that you want to get rid of your WRX is because of a squeaky clutch pedal and potential future reliability problems, then you may never be happy with any car as they will all have their own potential issues. Your car is still under warranty for quite a while, just let your dealership fix the problems and stop worrying!
It's about 6k base to base but the 370z has a larger markup from higher demand. I also think the genesis is a 2+2
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:45 AM   #16
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My brother has a 350Z and I just don't see how it is practical at all. **** you can barely fit a bookbag under the hatch lid let alone anything like luggage.

He comments every now and then of how my hatch is just as quick but a hell of a lot more practical. Then again, we both live on our own in midwest cities.

If a 370Z will practically fit your needs then go for it. Life is too short to be unhappy.
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The z is a coupe and has a much bigger engine

a stage 2 wrx with a couple PROPER mods would EAT the z
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:50 AM   #18
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I owned a 300ZX for awhile and loved the car even though it was older. I'm just afraid the WRX will give me more problems in the future that I'll be paying for out of pocket.

if ya do stupid things to the wrx it will die quickly....if you are SMART and do it RIGHT....it should last a LONG time

a GOOD tune is the KEY to avoid knock......and using the right oil in it so it wont eat a bearing or the turbo and ya do a couple other lil things and ya all good

most kiddies get too grandiose and dont get a good tune and GET a blown motor
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a stage 2 wrx with a couple PROPER mods would EAT the z
I wasn't talking performance, I agree with you completely. I think the z is overpriced for the performance, it's almost as much as a g which is much more luxurious and still has the vq37. I think that's what they call it lol
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Having come from a 2010 370z, I can tell you several things.

1. The interior of the of the 370 is worlds ahead of the sti. It is much more refined. The stereo, even though a Bose and kinda sucky, is still better than the wrx/Sti. The seats are also better in the Z but just barely.

2. Steering response and feel will be much better in the Z. When I first got my Sti, I noticed the steering was sloppy and twitchy. The drivability in the Z is much more refined.

3. You will get much more looks in the Z especially if you get the nismo. People used to compliment me on my Z everyday. They rarely ever compliment me on my Sti anymore, and it is far more modded than my Z was.

4. You will miss the space of the wrx (trunk and interior). Personally, I liked the cockpit feel of the z but it doesn't suit everybody.

5. Having said these things, you will miss the power and torque of the wrx. Once you go turbo, its hard to go NA.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:07 AM   #21
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Having come from a 2010 370z, I can tell you several things.

1. The interior of the of the 370 is worlds ahead of the sti. It is much more refined. The stereo, even though a Bose and kinda sucky, is still better than the wrx/Sti. The seats are also better in the Z but just barely.

2. Steering response and feel will be much better in the Z. When I first got my Sti, I noticed the steering was sloppy and twitchy. The drivability in the Z is much more refined.

3. You will get much more looks in the Z especially if you get the nismo. People used to compliment me on my Z everyday. They rarely ever compliment me on my Sti anymore, and it is far more modded than my Z was.

4. You will miss the space of the wrx (trunk and interior). Personally, I liked the cockpit feel of the z but it doesn't suit everybody.

5. Having said these things, you will miss the power and torque of the wrx. Once you go turbo, its hard to go NA.
Wow great response! Definitely some things I haven't thought of yet.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:13 AM   #22
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the 370z is so far down my list of cars that id even think of considering....that it would have to be almost free to get my attention

ive driven a couple 350z and they sucked.....bad
the 370z just sucks a lil less.......but it IS a good poseur ride, i guess...

for the same $$$ you can get a WHOLE LOT more car....like a boss mustang or a lightly used z06.....or....jeeze.....LOTS of way better cars
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the 370z is so far down my list of cars that id even think of considering....that it would have to be almost free to get my attention

ive driven a couple 350z and they sucked.....bad
the 370z just sucks a lil less.......but it IS a good poseur ride, i guess...

for the same $$$ you can get a WHOLE LOT more car....like a boss mustang or a lightly used z06.....or....jeeze.....LOTS of way better cars
You can't quite get a boss mustang or lightly used zo6. But you can get a mustang gt and have enough left over for a supercharger
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the 370z is so far down my list of cars that id even think of considering....that it would have to be almost free to get my attention

ive driven a couple 350z and they sucked.....bad
the 370z just sucks a lil less.......but it IS a good poseur ride, i guess...

for the same $$$ you can get a WHOLE LOT more car....like a boss mustang or a lightly used z06.....or....jeeze.....LOTS of way better cars
Im sorry, I have to respectfully disagree with this statement. The 370z is far better than the 350z in many ways. Even people who made the switch from the 350->370 noticed the engineering improvements.

The body
The engine
The transmission
The synchrorev match
The interior
The suspension

Pretty much everything.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:53 AM   #25
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This is a tough choice, they are really two different animals. Having driven the Z, I would never own one. It's really impractical in my eyes, due to the following:

The boot has enough space for two full tools boxes, a giant loom of an extension cord, 3 shop lights, bunch of breaker bars, two full sets of work clothes, a torch, box of bolts about 1 x 1 ft., pair of laptops, box of cleaning supplies, and a pair of pizza boxes haha. I'm pretty sure my friend and I have won the who can fit the most crap in their 370z contest. That being said, it is still kind of small, mostly a height issue. For example I could fit all that plus the area of two average sized people in the WRX.

Secondly, it's cramped in there. I hate the visibility, there is none, makes it difficult to drive.

Third, for what it is, it shouldn't be so big. Driving it feels like driving a much bigger car, at times even a truck. That's not to say that it doesn't feel sharp and sporty, but really only on moderate driving. When you're driving slow, it feels like a boat, when you're driving fast, it feels unwieldy (it's not really predictable, but much better than the 350 in my opinion).

Fourth, modification should you choose to go this route is EXPENSIVE. You think stuff for the WRX is costly? Think again. Set fire to your wallet now, you'd be saving money. Even maintenance items will severely drain your funds.

Overall my verdict: It's fast, fun, and an overall nice car, but not enough to overshadow the fact that it's too expensive, not fast enough for such a price tag, too big on the outside, and too small on the inside. If it were cheaper, and a 2 + 2, I'd be all over it.
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