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Old 10-01-2012, 04:22 PM   #1
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I've been looking around lately and have seen a lot of people lighting up the forums with talks of a push button style ignition for some of the STI's on the other side of the pond, and through research I have believe I have found all of the components necessary to complete the project, which at this stage I just need to acquire them and move forward with a DIY for anyone interested, but I also am wondering if anyone has had any experience with the company advanced keys? the primary component of this system is going to come from them... Anyway here is the list of components:

http://www.advancedkeys.com/products.htm - Smart Entry and Push Start - $350 + shipping
Trim panel for button - Japan parts Model number: 317-202-001 - $20 + shipping

Cover piece for key ignition - Model number: 317-202-002 - $13 + shipping

After speaking with Brian from advanced keys he has recommended a different bypass module, which i have ordered and should arrive with everything else I hope, here is the one I ordered for those interested:
Amazon.com: Autopage ADSALCA ADS Immobilizer Bypass and Doorlock: Car ElectronicsAmazon.com: Autopage ADSALCA ADS Immobilizer Bypass and Doorlock: Car Electronics
- $55 (on sale) + shipping

Option - For those willing to spend a little extra there is this STI button - Model number: 1008p-003-001 - $180

Personally I'm just going to use the button supplied by Advanced Keys, I may purchase the STI button if the one supplied doesn't fit as it isn't much cheaper to get the stock black one at that point, I am going to contact Advanced keys to check on this so i dont get stuck without a car, for those interested the part number for the black one is 317-202-003 on japanparts of course.

EDIT: I spoke with Brian over at advanced keys and he said that the button supplied by them will fit into the stock bezel from japan parts without modification. Also in speaking with Brian regarding this project he offered to waive the shipping fee for those interested in doing a similar install, the code for this is: ajschirack

Hope to have everything put together, for those not aware of what the finished product will look like here is picture,
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:09 PM   #2
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This might be one of the coolest DIY's I've read. I'm interested on how this turns out!
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:17 PM   #3
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Interesting. Sub'd to see what happens.
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:48 PM   #4
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:40 PM   #5
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I've been looking around lately and have seen a lot of people lighting up the forums with talks of a push button style ignition for some of the STI's on the other side of the pond, and through research I have believe I have found all of the components necessary to complete the project, which at this stage I just need to acquire them and move forward with a DIY for anyone interested, but I also am wondering if anyone has had any experience with the company advanced keys? the primary component of this system is going to come from them... Anyway here is the list of components:

http://www.advancedkeys.com/products.htm - Smart Entry and Push Start - $350 + shipping
Trim panel for button - Japan parts Model number: 317-202-001 - $20 + shipping

Cover piece for key ignition - Model number: 317-202-002 - $13 + shipping

Option - For those willing to spend a little extra there is this STI button - Model number: 1008p-003-001 - $180

Personally I'm just going to use the button supplied by Advanced Keys, I may purchase the STI button if the one supplied doesn't fit as it isn't much cheaper to get the stock black one at that point, I am going to contact Advanced keys to check on this so i dont get stuck without a car, for those interested the part number for the black one is 317-202-003 on japanparts of course.

Hope to have everything put together, for those not aware of what the finished product will look like here is picture,
Can this be installed on a 2013 wrx hatch?
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:51 PM   #6
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sub, i wanna see how this turns out.
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:53 PM   #7
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Pretty sure he (Alex at JPM) never got it working.
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:54 PM   #8
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Sub'd, you sir will have a lot of people duplicating this if you are successful

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Pretty sure he (Alex at JPM) never got it working.
Link to that thread just to help out OP any way possible (HERE)


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Can this be installed on a 2013 wrx hatch?
Did you even bother to read? He hasn't even started the project for his car yet, let alone know the answer to if it can be installed anywhere else.

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Old 10-02-2012, 12:01 AM   #9
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Looks promising but what about key transponder?
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:31 AM   #10
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Can this be installed on a 2013 wrx hatch?
i would think so... unless your bezel is a different shape, i.e. the part from japan parts will not swap out with the stock piece...

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Pretty sure he (Alex at JPM) never got it working.
Really garudatwo? I'm thinking it is going to be straightforward... The only thing i feel kind of skiddish about is the steering column lock bypass method that advanced keys suggests, here are there instructions, http://www.advancedkeys.com/docs/AK-104.pdf, from what it looks like you basically take your key apart and leave in the ignition , Other than that it appears their system is very straight forward... The only other hiccup will be if the button supplied by advanced keys is a different size than the hole in the bezzel, and the STI start button has a different connection, which i suspect it does... either way I'm currently waiting on a response from them regarding the size of their button, I went ahead and ordered the bezel and ignition cover from japanparts today, hoping to order the system tomorrow from advanced keys.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:10 AM   #11
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@Ajschirack
Does it work with MT? I just checked their web site and nowhere it says it does. Curious to know tho.

Great DIY to be


Edit: You still need to cut your factory key, here you can see pics of it, if you haven't seen it yet.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:40 AM   #12
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Definitely subscribed to this thread...interested in how it turns out..good luck!
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:51 AM   #13
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Subscribed also. Looks awesomE!
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:02 AM   #14
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Spent a lot of time figuring this out.
Looks like some harness work needs to be done. Quizzed the dealer on it and they agreed. It's a fantastic and very cool modification though. Perhaps just wire it up as a standard push button starter where you still use the key/fob to obtain entry
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:05 AM   #15
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I love this idea but two things come to mind.

1. You'll need a spare key in a transponder box hidden somewhere in the dash. The push button system will need to power this box so the ecu will allow the car to start. This shouldn't be a big deal. I did this to remote start my 05 STi.

2. What about the steering column lock? Do you plan to disable this? As far as I know its a mechanically operated lock so you'd have to either disable it or insert and turn the key each time which kind of defeats the purpose of a push button start.

Keep us posted on your findings and progress.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:41 AM   #16
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I love this idea but two things come to mind.

1. You'll need a spare key in a transponder box hidden somewhere in the dash. The push button system will need to power this box so the ecu will allow the car to start. This shouldn't be a big deal. I did this to remote start my 05 STi.

2. What about the steering column lock? Do you plan to disable this? As far as I know its a mechanically operated lock so you'd have to either disable it or insert and turn the key each time which kind of defeats the purpose of a push button start.

Keep us posted on your findings and progress.
Nice catch, so in their instructions from Advanced keys they basically say cut a key off so that just nub is sticking off when inserted into ignition, this makes me nervous, but if I cant fix this any other way then I may just have to go with it... which leads to the answer to the other question, unless i discover some other way to get around the ignition I will have to cut a key, which will make life easier in solving the transponder problem, Since it is just a small chip I will likely try just place it in the key fob or some of similar place, that way if someone was to get access to the car it wouldnt start up for them... I believe advanced keys has other security systems in place to keep such things from happening as well but it would still be my peace of mind at the end of the day...

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Spent a lot of time figuring this out.
Looks like some harness work needs to be done. Quizzed the dealer on it and they agreed. It's a fantastic and very cool modification though. Perhaps just wire it up as a standard push button starter where you still use the key/fob to obtain entry
Ya I may just do the push button start for now and come back and do the keyless entry later as I'm not totally in need of it and they are stand alone systems of one another.

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Does it work with MT? I just checked their web site and nowhere it says it does. Curious to know tho.

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Edit: You still need to cut your factory key, here you can see pics of it, if you haven't seen it yet.
I emailed them and checked and they said it will work, on there website it says depress brake then press button, with our cars we have to depress the clutch as well, then hold button for 2 seconds and it should fire up.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:46 AM   #17
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I thought with push button starts you still have to use your key? put in the ignition switch then push the button? that way someone cant break into your car and push the button and take off.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:00 AM   #18
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I thought with push button starts you still have to use your key? put in the ignition switch then push the button? that way someone cant break into your car and push the button and take off.
Sort of, this system works similar to the security system in your vehicle, with your car it will only start if the chip embedded in your key is in the car... with this system from advanced keys you have to account for two things, that chip, which can easily be place in the car somewhere or you can do what i plan to do, which is, Since the Advanced keys system requires that you have a credit card shaped deal on your key chain that activates the push button, im going to place the chip in this, that way both the car and Advanced keys systems will be prepared to start the car, please go over to their website and review their information concerning security and installation.

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Old 10-02-2012, 11:02 AM   #19
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Pretty sure he (Alex at JPM) never got it working.
I checked out his post, it didnt look like it was inability to complete the project as much as it was him getting a BRZ instead, I believe this is going to be a pretty straight forward project when I go through with it.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:05 AM   #20
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I've thought about buying a remote start kit, and somehow integrating the subaru start button to work with the kit. I will be following your work closely as I would like to add this to my 13 sti.
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...which can easily be place in the car somewhere ...
So you would probably sacrifice your valet key, since its less useful, gut it, and leave it in the ignition. Now my question would be, how far away from the ignition will the transponder still work? Right now obviously it is only an inch or so away. It just seems like it would suck if every time you wanted to start, you would have to hold the transponder by the ignition, then push to start. Would the car still run if the transponder is out of this range? Or is it just used to check on initial start up.

Just some more questions to think over.
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So you would probably sacrifice your valet key, since its less useful, gut it, and leave it in the ignition. Now my question would be, how far away from the ignition will the transponder still work? Right now obviously it is only an inch or so away. It just seems like it would suck if every time you wanted to start, you would have to hold the transponder by the ignition, then push to start. Would the car still run if the transponder is out of this range? Or is it just used to check on initial start up.

Just some more questions to think over.
This is why you use a transponder box. It holds the key (and chip) and can be hidden up inside your dash. It reads the chip and relays the signal down some wires and to a loop that goes around your ignition. When the box is power up, it triggers the ignition as if the chip is right next to it.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:48 PM   #23
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This is why you use a transponder box. It holds the key (and chip) and can be hidden up inside your dash. It reads the chip and relays the signal down some wires and to a loop that goes around your ignition. When the box is power up, it triggers the ignition as if the chip is right next to it.
Thanks for the heads up, just ordered the piece from amazon.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:23 PM   #24
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Thanks for the heads up, just ordered the piece from amazon.
No problem.

In regards to the steering column lock - you might look into how the JDM STi w/ push button start works in this regard. Those don't take keys at all, in fact I think they have a block off plate over the ignition if I remember correctly. They might have some sort of electronic lock. If you could get that or somehow implement something like that on our ignitions that would negate the need to stick a cut off key in the ignition and leave the column unlocked at all times.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:05 PM   #25
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This is why you use a transponder box. It holds the key (and chip) and can be hidden up inside your dash. It reads the chip and relays the signal down some wires and to a loop that goes around your ignition. When the box is power up, it triggers the ignition as if the chip is right next to it.
Ah never knew such a thing existed. Thanks, aj don't forget to add what you ordered off amazon to the first post for everyone following along.
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