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Old 12-13-2012, 07:27 AM   #26
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you can replace the front main seal with the motor in place.

done enough 100k services..timing belt..idlers..tensioner..water pump..cam seals..

you're going to have timing the motor.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:29 PM   #27
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You need the actual new gaskets not some RTV type solution, it's probably $20 in parts.
I did replace the gasket with a new one, the valve cover is leak free now just leaking from the timing belt cover.

The oil did appear to be leaking from inside the cover, is there a gasket around the timing belt cover? I will be taking my header back off tonight after school to look again and check tightness of all the bolts nearby.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:31 PM   #28
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you're going to have timing the motor.
Can you elaborate? If I take the timing belt off I understand I will need to retime it.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:16 PM   #29
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Sounds like cam seals, there is a very specific way to remove and reinstall the timing belt, if done incorrectly you run the risk of both intake and exhaust valves contacting. The factory service manual is your friend.
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Old 12-13-2012, 04:52 PM   #30
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I would definately mark the belt and pullies well so reinstallation should be problem free. I have rebuilt top ends on fourstroke motox bikes so I know how troublesome a mistimed motor can be.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:17 PM   #31
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Watching this thread closely, I'm currently losing maybe 1 quart of oil per month. I sometimes see a small (half dollar) size spot of oil underneath the passenger side of the motor too... I'm hoping it's just the valve cover gasket
If you can pull the engine the valve cover gasket is so easy to get to and a cheap part to fix, there is 3-4 gaskets per side I think.

If you can't pull the engine, well, I've never looked to see if it's possible to remove the valve cover or not.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:26 PM   #32
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Can you elaborate? If I take the timing belt off I understand I will need to retime it.
Since the motor has already been in motion and pressurized with oil you don't need to restart it on fire 1. I think what he is talking about is that the two left cams can be left alone, the two right cams the top one you can only spin clockwise (check my info before you do it) and the right side underneath cam can only be spun counter clockwise. Also, because there is no oil pressure, you don't want to be spinning the things constantly either, try to do it in as few times as possible. THere is a number of threads on here as to how to do it.

And if it's coming from inside the TB cover it has to bee either the crank or cam seals. I replaced my oil pump when doing the TB along with the WP and Thermostat.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:52 PM   #33
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If you can pull the engine the valve cover gasket is so easy to get to and a cheap part to fix, there is 3-4 gaskets per side I think.

If you can't pull the engine, well, I've never looked to see if it's possible to remove the valve cover or not.
I had to do my passenger valve cover gasket 3 times before it finally sealed properly. This was all done with the motor in the car so it is possible. Not super difficult.

There is the gasket for the cover itself, then two spark plug gaskets per side.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:46 PM   #34
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ever get oil film dripping down the filter? Could be the oil cooler/heater to block gasket...ask me how I know. But that won't cause huge loss of oil, methinks. At least it didn't for me. Just a mess.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:41 PM   #35
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Yes, I have oil on the filter. I have not lost any noticable amount of oil since replacing the valve cover gasket on the 1st. Just seeing and smelling smoke when I come to a stop after a spirited drive.

I was losing oil last summer when I bought the car, I was new to subies and took it to a shop, they found a leak from around where the oil filter attaches to the block. Not sure if they replaced the gasket or just applied sealant.

Definately plausible, I will have to check it next time I jack the car up.
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:37 AM   #36
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Check your turbo feed line, I was having the same issues and was told by the dealer it was my valve cover gaskets and I replaced them and it still leaking the dealer said the valve covers still leaking so I took it to my local tuner shop they said it was my feed line and replaced it was a stainless steel braided line and no more leaks! The old line cracked at the banjo fitting on the turbo
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:10 AM   #37
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My turbo feed line cracked just above the banjo fitting on the engine. I had to remove it to find the crack. It looked like a head/valve cover gasket failure, even spraying oil on top of the head. Oil dripped on the exhaust and smoked behind me while driving and came out of the hood scoop when stopped.
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:39 PM   #38
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Both of these last 2 replies are getting me thinking. I will be installing a catless up pipe hopefully this weekend and will be taking the turbo out to inspect it and the feed lines. Thanks again for the help
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:52 PM   #39
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Any updates? I am having similar issues.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:47 PM   #40
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I had a rounded nut on the turbo/up pipe connection, so I wasn't able to take them out and inspect the lines. I know the rigid oil feed line is fine, but the drain line will hopefully be my problem. I got a set of grabber sockets so I will reattempt this on Friday.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:16 PM   #41
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could also be the oil cooler o-ring leaking ,pretty easy to remove and reseal .
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:03 AM   #42
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Watching this thread closely, I'm currently losing maybe 1 quart of oil per month. I sometimes see a small (half dollar) size spot of oil underneath the passenger side of the motor too... I'm hoping it's just the valve cover gasket
Thats how mine was I was using alot of oil I was afraid the motor was going bad.. But it was the passenger side valve cover gasket..

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Old 01-09-2013, 02:06 PM   #43
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I took all the heat shielding off my stock headers when I had them off the car, so I can easily see if my valve cover is leaking now. With all that shielding on, you can't see the bottom of the passenger side head at all.

Does anyone know if the oil drain line from the turbo is pressurized? Does it pressurize when you get into boost?
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No pressure. Oil return is by gravity.
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That's what I assumed looking at the size of the drain line compared to the feed.

Let me get this clear; when your motor revs up, oil pressure goes up, correct? If I go around a corner in 1st and give it a bunch of gas (to do a drift/donut) then it'll smoke worse than any other time. I believe it's only when I turn left, but I will need to do more trial and error.

If I were to do hard highway pulls, then stop right away, there is sometimes some smoke, sometimes not. But not near the amount as when I do a low speed 1st gear drift/donut.
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<----- Having the same problem. Just bought the Valve cover gasket kit.

Now I'm worried its something else.
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:27 PM   #47
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Lol hopefully it's just that.. Can you see it at all from below? If you can't see anything because of the stock heat shielding, I'd say it's worth while to take the headers off and see whether your valve cover is leaking or not. Since I removed my heat shields I can just look under the car and see if it's leaking without any work. Good luck!
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:04 PM   #48
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So i seem to be having a similar problem. white smoke on the right side of my engine...smells like oil burning. My car does 180k miles now, it looks and sounds like a engine seal from what im reading on this thread. Just a newbie question to replace the seal or rather seals its possible to avoid pulling the motor? If anyone knows a DIY writeup can you point me in the right direction?

Thanks
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Also when i first bought the car at 120k miles. i was leaking what seemed as above the oil filter. That however turned out to be a o- ring which was super easy to fix and replace. My new leak seems to be above the oil filter housing which leads me to believe Engine seals.
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So i seem to be having a similar problem. white smoke on the right side of my engine...smells like oil burning. My car does 180k miles now, it looks and sounds like a engine seal from what im reading on this thread. Just a newbie question to replace the seal or rather seals its possible to avoid pulling the motor? If anyone knows a DIY writeup can you point me in the right direction?
Before you go replacing cam or crank seals, make sure that the leak is not coming from the valve cover gasket, valve cover bolts, half moon seals, turbo drain line, oil cooler, etc.

As for a writeup, go to the maintenance subforum and search for timing belt diy. The crank seal is straightforward and I did it when I changed the timing belt. The cam seals are tougher because getting the cam gears off can be bloody difficult.
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