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Old 11-29-2012, 01:20 AM   #26
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By the way, the Venom GT is completely built in England. He has nothing to do with building it outside of the engine. SUPPOSEDLY the engines are built at his TX shop (...wouldn't be surprised if he had them built elsewhere and slapped his name on them). He then plasters his name on the car and charges a **** load of money for it (just like his other parts). See the trend?
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:38 AM   #27
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By the way, the Venom GT is completely built in England. He has nothing to do with building it outside of the engine. SUPPOSEDLY the engines are built at his TX shop (...wouldn't be surprised if he had them built elsewhere and slapped his name on them). He then plasters his name on the car and charges a **** load of money for it (just like his other parts). See the trend?
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:42 AM   #28
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Alright, someone on here needs to step up and just buy one so we can get some first-hand information and impressions around the car.......Do it.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:52 AM   #29
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Nope. He's still up to the same old shady **** as the old Viper days. You should see the "engineering" on his GTR packages. From dry wall screws holding MAF sensors in place to blatantly stealing other company's packages (specifically HKS), rebranding them as "Hennessey engineered", and then blatantly lying about it, even when caught with his pants down.

He's as shady as they come. The only difference between the Viper days and now is that he hasn't been caught (*yet*) selling off parts of out-of-state customer cars and billing for aftermarket upgrades in his engines that were never installed (which happened NUMEROUS times, despite the fact that he was "never charged or convicted").

He had numerous lawsuits against him, declared bankruptcy (screwing multiple, predominantly out-of-state, customers out of their money), and then restarted a new company.

Everyone deserves a second chance. However, he's up to the same BS as before. Only now, he's better funded and more spread out, rather than focusing on a single marque. A fool and his money....

Don't forget the time he had an out-of-state customer looking for answers (after Hennessey gave him the runaround for a year via phone/email), arrested for trespassing at his shop. A customer who dropped nearly $100,000 and never received a running Viper...
Proof?

I can sit here and run peoples name through the dirt too.

I heard that Cobb is actually a nuclear arms dealer and that they have been employing children for pennies a day, then selling them off to China. It was Adolf Hitler himself that founded Cobb and his family still actively owns and runs it.

See...its pretty hard to believe something without proof. Even if you site another forum where someone is talking smack, that is nothing because if he was really doing this, he WOULD be in jail.

It is obvious that you will never buy a Hennessey product, and he does not have a gun to your head either.

You do not seem to have any facts, and yet you keep pointing fingers...bring facts and I will respect that. Until then, you are just another forum jockie

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By the way, the Venom GT is completely built in England. He has nothing to do with building it outside of the engine. SUPPOSEDLY the engines are built at his TX shop (...wouldn't be surprised if he had them built elsewhere and slapped his name on them). He then plasters his name on the car and charges a **** load of money for it (just like his other parts). See the trend?
Again...your sources? You do not have an argument when you do not have a leg to stand on.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:05 AM   #30
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Hennessey manufactures the power plants at its facility in Sealy, Texas. The engines are then air freighted to the company's assembly facility near Silverstone, England where the Venom GT is built and tested

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The entire body was extensively wind tunnel-tested and fine-tuned at Hennessey's hi-tech engineering arm in England to achieve maximum don't-kill-any-super-rich-dude stability.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:24 AM   #31
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When shopping for Vipers, a Hennessey Viper was worth less than a stock Viper.
I've heard that Hennessey is better now and on a better course, but what has been seen cannot be unseen.
At $1m, I wouldn't purchase a glorified tube chassis vs. a FGT or Aventador with similar power.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:45 AM   #32
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All of this isn't exactly the issue. I am not sure off hand if he does or does not claim that it is 100% built in the USA. I am pretty sure that the plaque inside the car even says that it is handcrafted in Silverstone, England

I would be worried if it were built in China rather than England.

Also, what is wrong with having someone else do what they do best to make the product better? If I knew how to make engines and power, but no clue about bodywork or aerodynamics, I would much rather contract that out to get it done right.

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Old 11-29-2012, 10:52 AM   #33
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When shopping for Vipers, a Hennessey Viper was worth less than a stock Viper.
I've heard that Hennessey is better now and on a better course, but what has been seen cannot be unseen.
Modified cars rarely if ever are worth more than a stock counterpart. Only the odd car like a Supra or TT Gallardo are exceptions to this rule.

It is hard to forget the past yes, but put things into perspective. Look at Ford. A lot of people are still stuck with the stigma that Ford makes crap cars and they are junk.

Ford is making AMAZING cars right now. Great quality and engineering compared to even 5 years ago. Before someone sihts on this point, yes some cars have had problems, but what manufacturer doesn't. So again, put things into perspective.

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At $1m, I wouldn't purchase a glorified tube chassis vs. a FGT or Aventador with similar power.
You and everyone else on this forum aren't in the position to make that assumption. If I had $1m to spend on a car, I would buy a Hennessey in a heart beat, but that is me. I don't have $1m either, so I do not know what my car purchasing mind would be into.

What rich people want when shopping for a car like this is Exclusivity/Fast/Price in that order.

We cannot say whether the car is worth it or not because we cannot afford it, or have ever, or will ever, have a chance to drive/ride in one.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:09 PM   #34
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Yes, we're all "haters". They still let kids use the computer lab during study hall, I see.
i doubt you're older than me sonny. nice point though. Kids today are brighter than you or I were at their age. The internet is a wonderful tool of knowledge if you know how to wield it correctly, clearly, you're still in the dark on that one.

I agree with the above post, Ford has come a LONG way in 5 years. Ecoboost was a revolutionary design for them and now look, its in every car. Just took them forever to catch on. Efficiency reigns supreme in the modern era.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:12 PM   #35
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has anyone here ever owned a Hennessy build? Or just copped an attitude of Henness envy?
Keep in mind once you push past 20% increases you go past original engineering things break.
my dislike/distrust come from when the srt8 first came out henessy was sending used broken parts as "new" off the shelf..stupid things like that is what gives my word of never buying a thing from him

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Old 11-29-2012, 05:09 PM   #36
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so much hate because NONE of you will ever own something that badass. One car breaks nearly a decade ago and you guys lose your ****. Bandwagon much? The flaming Hennessey gets spawns from ******* who expect their 1000whp Viper to be able to pull DD duty if necessary and NEVER break. Sorry kids, if you wanna go real, real fast, yo **** gonna break!
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Proof?

I can sit here and run peoples name through the dirt too.

I heard that Cobb is actually a nuclear arms dealer and that they have been employing children for pennies a day, then selling them off to China. It was Adolf Hitler himself that founded Cobb and his family still actively owns and runs it.

See...its pretty hard to believe something without proof. Even if you site another forum where someone is talking smack, that is nothing because if he was really doing this, he WOULD be in jail.

It is obvious that you will never buy a Hennessey product, and he does not have a gun to your head either.

You do not seem to have any facts, and yet you keep pointing fingers...bring facts and I will respect that. Until then, you are just another forum jockie



Again...your sources? You do not have an argument when you do not have a leg to stand on.

You guys want proof? This isn't about a broken car or two. Not at all. All shops break cars. He flat out cuts corners and swindles people where he can. He's an attention whore. He must get his hands on every high profile car around and put his name on it.

Here is his quality GT-R in case you're wondering:
http://www.gtrlife.com/forums/topic/...y-gt-r-end-up/

Just look at that quality work...











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Old 11-29-2012, 06:17 PM   #37
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You can't compare Ford with Hennesey. One is an international organization that employs tens of thousands of people at any given time, and probably is involved indirectly in the employment of millions of people if you consider all of their subcontractors, suppliers, etc.

You can change thousands of employees every year at Ford, and have good or bad experiences based on very random experiences from different people (depending on which call center you get routed through).

Hennesey developed many bad relationships in the past and still hasn't got rid of the trouble employee (himself). Until there are some serious public apologies or a change in ownership, the onus is on the company to make changes and prove customer service has improved, not the customer.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:36 PM   #38
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that gtrlife stuff was fun to read

I donīt get it that Hennessey still got customers
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You and everyone else on this forum aren't in the position to make that assumption. If I had $1m to spend on a car, I would buy a Hennessey in a heart beat, but that is me. I don't have $1m either, so I do not know what my car purchasing mind would be into.

What rich people want when shopping for a car like this is Exclusivity/Fast/Price in that order.

We cannot say whether the car is worth it or not because we cannot afford it, or have ever, or will ever, have a chance to drive/ride in one.
You do know what Nick drives, right?
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:19 AM   #40
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Proof?

I can sit here and run peoples name through the dirt too.

I heard that Cobb is actually a nuclear arms dealer and that they have been employing children for pennies a day, then selling them off to China. It was Adolf Hitler himself that founded Cobb and his family still actively owns and runs it.

See...its pretty hard to believe something without proof. Even if you site another forum where someone is talking smack, that is nothing because if he was really doing this, he WOULD be in jail.

It is obvious that you will never buy a Hennessey product, and he does not have a gun to your head either.

You do not seem to have any facts, and yet you keep pointing fingers...bring facts and I will respect that. Until then, you are just another forum jockie



Again...your sources? You do not have an argument when you do not have a leg to stand on.
Look, kiddo.... I was active in the Viper forums when all of the above referenced Viper shenanigans were taking place and I've seen first hand the piece of **** handiwork he's currently passing off as "Hennessey engineered" GTR upgrades. I couldn't care less if YOU believe me. It's fact, plain and simple. Worst part about it is a HUGE number of threads and posts on the Viper forums were deleted at the insistence of Hennessey (including threats of legal action). He avoided jail and absconded with multiple peoples money (and parts) through bankruptcy. Why don't you try searching? Here's one of many...

http://forums.viperclub.org/threads/...ey-Performance

I'm not sure how you got a cup of Hennessey's koolaid way up there in Canuckistan, but his current practices (and lack of remorse for his previous screwjobs) proves he's still a narcissistic, attention hungry, very shady businessman.

Your logic is flawed... the Venom GT is still a modified Lotus with an engine transplant. It's not "a Hennessey". It's a phantom frankenstein that will probably never see the light of day.

FYI, I can afford "a Hennessey". Wouldn't drive one if it was given to me
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:33 AM   #41
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You and everyone else on this forum aren't in the position to make that assumption. If I had $1m to spend on a car, I would buy a Hennessey in a heart beat, but that is me. I don't have $1m either, so I do not know what my car purchasing mind would be into.

What rich people want when shopping for a car like this is Exclusivity/Fast/Price in that order.

We cannot say whether the car is worth it or not because we cannot afford it, or have ever, or will ever, have a chance to drive/ride in one.

Don't make assumptions. There are quite a few on here worth more than you (obviously) know, and have the means to buy (for all intents and purposes) whatever they want.

I bought the GTR on fast/price points, in that order. Exclusivity had nothing to do with it.
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Running rich much?
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Modified cars rarely if ever are worth more than a stock counterpart. Only the odd car like a Supra or TT Gallardo are exceptions to this rule.

It is hard to forget the past yes, but put things into perspective. Look at Ford. A lot of people are still stuck with the stigma that Ford makes crap cars and they are junk.

Ford is making AMAZING cars right now. Great quality and engineering compared to even 5 years ago. Before someone sihts on this point, yes some cars have had problems, but what manufacturer doesn't. So again, put things into perspective.

You and everyone else on this forum aren't in the position to make that assumption. If I had $1m to spend on a car, I would buy a Hennessey in a heart beat, but that is me. I don't have $1m either, so I do not know what my car purchasing mind would be into.

What rich people want when shopping for a car like this is Exclusivity/Fast/Price in that order.

We cannot say whether the car is worth it or not because we cannot afford it, or have ever, or will ever, have a chance to drive/ride in one.
Modified cars are rarely worth more than their stock counterparts. But in the case of the Viper, generally mods keep a car over 10k miles on par, if not, slightly more valuable than stock. In the case of Hennessey, people in the "know" will not touch one of the cars because there is a good chance that what's inside the engine isn't as good as a stock car. Hennessey's name is tainted.

I think Ford has done great things in recent years. But Ford has proven that they are making a great product now, it's very easy to see. Hennessey on the other hand is saying that they are better, but proof is in the pudding; look at the GTR examples noted above, I'm not seeing a change in the quality department. Another issue for Hennessey is their competitors make a better quality product in all aspects.

I don't have $1m to drop on a car. But I could send my Murcielago to Underground and have it produce more than 1500hp and not look like an Elise or worry about what parts are or are not on my car. There is nothing exclusive about a modified Lotus body on a tube chassis with an LSx.
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Venom GT sets world record (video):

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I'd hope to god a 1200hp Lotus Elise can take that record. It'd be a joke if it didn't.
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