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View Poll Results: Who will be the biggest surprise of the 2013 World Driver's Championship?
Sebastian Vettel 5 4.72%
Mark Webber 2 1.89%
Fernando Alonso 9 8.49%
Felipe Massa 7 6.60%
Kimi Raikkonen 32 30.19%
Romain Grosjean 5 4.72%
Lewis Hamilton 13 12.26%
Nico Rosberg 1 0.94%
Jenson Button 5 4.72%
Sergio Perez 9 8.49%
Nico Hulkenberg 2 1.89%
Esteban Gutierrez 0 0%
Pastor Maldonado 2 1.89%
Valtteri Bottas 0 0%
Jean-Eric Vergne 1 0.94%
Daniel Ricciardo 1 0.94%
Charles Pic 0 0%
Vitaly Petrov 2 1.89%
Timo Glock 2 1.89%
Paul di Resta 1 0.94%
Someone else 2 1.89%
Bernie Ecclestone 5 4.72%
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:30 PM   #276
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Ecclestone lost interest in the negotiations, I really hope that there is no GP in germany in 2013.

If you ask why: it isn´t worth it. Economical it´s a loss, the tax payer has to fill this hole with another 20 to 40 Billion Euro, only to increase Ecclestones wealth.

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Old 01-27-2013, 02:55 PM   #277
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Public Cost Of Melbourne Formula 1 Race Revealed: Report

The Australian Formula One Grand Prix costs Victorians over AU$30 million in licence fees annually, according to figures revealed by Melbourne's Herald Sun newspaper.

The annual fees have long been kept under wraps by successive Victorian state governments because of contractual confidentiality.

According to documents reportedly sighted by the paper, Melbourne’s contract with Bernie Ecclestone’s Formula One Group includes licence fees totalling US$171.4 million (AU$162.5 million at current exchange rates) over its five-year term.

This total is the sum of annual payments, commencing with US$31 million for the 2011 race, and escalating by five percent each year for the duration of the contract - regardless of the event's commercial performance.

The Albert Park event endures a welter of criticism every year for its net cost to taxpayers (AU$56.7 million in 2012).

It is now widely-known that a decision on whether to renew the Australian Formula One Grand Prix contract beyond the 2015 race will be made within 12 months.

The current contract was agreed upon by the previous Labor John Brumby government, but a renewal will be the responsibility of the current Liberal Ted Baillieu government.

Current Tourism and Major Events Minister Louise Asher reportedly acknowledged that the Grand Prix cost to taxpayers is too great under the current strategy, and that it is her responsibility to improve this deficit.

"I'm going to go to the table in good faith, to have a proper discussion about whether Melbourne can retain this Grand Prix,” Asher told the Herald Sun.

"I think the event is terrific, but at the moment it's costing too much money."

Despite these taxpayer-subsidised annual losses, Ms Asher told the HS that the Grand Prix’s wider economic benefit is valued at between AU$32-39 million per year, through international publicity and the strengthening of Melbourne as a brand.

"In terms of tourism, Sydney has the Opera House, Queensland has the Great Barrier Reef, central Australia has Ayers Rock. We in Victoria, both sides of politics, have tried to position Melbourne as a major events capital," she told the Herald Sun
http://www.themotorreport.com.au/558...vealed-report2
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:39 PM   #278
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The race in 2011 had over 300,000 people attending. It's a boon for the hotel, travel, and restaurant industries. If $32-39M comes from publicity and strengthening Melbourne as a brand, how much does the city bring in taxes related to the event?

Maybe they should institute a tourism tax, similar to what Montreal does, by tacking on an extra 15% to hotel bills. That would bring in a ton of money over a week, even if it wouldn't pay for a whole grand prix.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:54 PM   #279
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Am I missing something? Why are governments paying for FIA events? I was under the impression that the tracks/promoters pay the FIA.

I guess someome has to pay for Petra Ecclestone's mansions and plastic surgeries.....

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Old 01-27-2013, 06:23 PM   #280
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Hosting an event is so expensive that a lot of local governments have to help pay the sanctioning fee. The intent is that they'll make it back with tax revenues from the fans who come to the race (via hotels, restaurants, travel, etc.), but places like Korea and Turkey don't generate enough cash flow to make it worthwhile.

It's part of the reason why the race in Texas was so great...excellent spectator turnout and an exciting race, so hopefully it will continue to be popular.

I intend to be there this November, but I'll need to see how my move back to America in September plays out.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:54 AM   #281
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105300

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The future of the German Grand Prix appears to be hanging in the balance after Bernie Ecclestone revealed on Monday that he had ended negotiations with the Nurburgring over the 2013 event.

The Nurburgring was supposed to host this year's event as part of an alternation plan agreed with Hockenheim, but financial problems at the venue meant there was no guarantee it could fund the race.

Following weeks of talks to try to agree terms, Ecclestone has now indicated that a deal does not look like happening.

Speaking to German publication Spiegel, Ecclestone said: "After due consideration of their proposal we believe it is regrettably not financially acceptable, so we have terminated our negotiations."

The German GP's fate may now rest on Ecclestone sorting out a deal with Hockenheim, which hosted last year's race.

Should that plan not come off, then the Formula 1 calendar could be reduced to just 18 races - with plans for a 20th event having not reached fruition.

Turkey, Austria and Portugal were all linked with that vacant slot - which has been pencilled in for July 21 – but there has been no indication of a venue getting the green light.

If Germany does not take place, then it means there will be just one race – the Hungarian GP on July 28 – between the British GP on June 30 and the Belgian GP on August 25.
CN: What torquemada has been saying.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:03 AM   #282
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Soon...

http://www.youtube.com/lotusf1team

There's another sneak peek pic of their car scrolling on the main page http://lotusf1team.com

Edit: There's a lot more red on the car this year. Someone host pics!

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Old 01-28-2013, 02:50 PM   #283
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:08 PM   #284
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Oooohh...look at those turning vanes around the radiator inlets. Mclaren-esque, only squarer...
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:11 PM   #285
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This guy's pretty good. I watched him win an Abu Dhabi GP2 race in 2011.

http://en.espnf1.com/lotusf1/motorsp...ory/99402.html

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2012 GP2 champion Davide Valsecchi has been named as Lotus' third driver for the 2013 season.

Valsecchi moves in to the role having impressed the team during an outing at the Abu Dhabi Young Driver Test last November, with Jerome d'Ambrosio staying on as reserve driver and Nicolas Prost as development driver. Valsecchi said he is "excited about the future" and is focusing on impressing the team further this year.

"I'm really happy that the team want me on board and I'm excited about the future," Valsecchi said. "I hope that this is a really good start to a career in Formula 1.

"Every day I will do the very best job that I can to give Lotus F1 Team the same passion and commitment that I showed last year. My last season in GP2 in 2012 was something I really focussed on, and in the end I succeeded. Now in Formula 1 my target will be a little different, but my focus to do the very best is still the same."

Valsecchi also admitted that he views his role as a stepping stone towards a race seat.

"I very much hope, step by step, to get into Formula 1 as a race driver, and being here as third driver is as near as you can get. It's a great opportunity here - If I do the best job I can this year then it will open up my chances for the future, and we'll see if I'm good enough."
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Kimi's steering wheel

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A group of Canadian and American investors are pushing to try and secure HRT's entry slot in Formula 1, AUTOSPORT can reveal, but they may have to wait until 2014 before being allowed to join the grid.

Sources have revealed that negotiations to purchase the HRT company and secure an entry are at an advanced stage, and the plan for a team known as Scorpion Racing appears to have the blessing of F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone.

However, AUTOSPORT understands that the FIA believes the 12th entry slot for 2013 was closed off when it was informed at the end of last season that HRT had been liquidated.

Although the governing body is aware of the plans for Scorpion Racing, it does not appear to have any intention of making a special case to allow another team in for 2013 because the entry deadline closed last November.

The investors behind Scorpion Racing are hoping to complete due diligence of the buy-out plans in the next few days.

That means the viability of their plans should become clearer by the end of the week.

Scorpion is hoping to run its effort from a facility at Silverstone, using updated HRT F112 cars that will be powered by Cosworth engines and use a Williams gearbox.

AUTOSPORT has learned that discussions have taken place with Ecclestone about the idea, and he indicated to the outfit in a letter last weekend that if its takeover of the HRT assets was complete then it should get an entry to F1.

Ecclestone wrote to the Scorpion Racing investors saying: "Have you bought the HRT company? Because if you have, they [the FIA] would be accepting you."

It is not clear if there is any mechanism for Scorpion to secure a place on the grid if it can convince the FIA that it has the funding and technical capability to compete in 2013.
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i wonder why the first and last pics don't have the extra intake openings.
in the interview, they were saying they didn't add a cover to the stepped nose because it would add a few grams of extra weight. legit.


here is a cool comparison between last year's e20 and this year's e21

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Just like the Ferrari glory days, I see Red Bull making all the right moves to retain the key players. Case in point:

http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsp...ory/99516.html

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Red Bull team principal Christian Horner has extended his contract at the team after signing a multi-year deal.

Horner has been at Red Bull since it first entered Formula One in 2005 and replaced the Jaguar outfit on the grid. He has overseen Sebastian Vettel's three championship victories over the last three years as well as Red Bull's hat-trick constructors' titles.

The news puts an end to speculative rumours that Ferrari might be looking to poach Horner, which Red Bull advisor Helmut Marko dismissed in the German press by saying, "We've just extended his contract until 2017".

Red Bull launches its 2013 car on Sunday with Vettel and Mark Webber staying on as its race drivers for another year.
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http://www.philstar.com/sports/2013/...rburgring-deal

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German media reports say Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone has struck a deal for a grand prix as planned at the financially troubled Nuerburgring this summer.

The Rhein-Zeitung newspaper says Ecclestone and Karl-Josef Schmidt, chief of the state-owned Nuerburgring operating company, agreed on a contract on Wednesday.

Bild says government sources in Mainz confirmed the deal, which ensures the July 7 race can go ahead despite the racetrack's insolvency.

Still to be decided was whether it would be called the German Grand Prix or European Grand Prix.

A news conference to confirm the details will reportedly take place on Thursday.

The Nuerburgring filed for insolvency last July.
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Looking at the Mclaren MP4-28 launch pics, the first thing I noticed is the absence of turning vanes under the nose. And...pull rod front suspension?! Edit: they also did away with the turning vanes over the top of the radiator inlets. I suspect they'll make a reappearance during testing, though. No team gives away all their secrets during the launch.




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I am Grade A pissed off because I may not be able to attend this event, and it comes around so rarely now. CRAP...must...find...funds...

http://en.espnf1.com/germany/motorsp...ory/99532.html

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A deal has been agreed for the German Grand Prix to be held at the Nurburgring, Bernie Ecclestone has confirmed.

The race has been at the centre of much uncertainty for many months after financial problems put the Nurburgring's ability to host the race in doubt. Ecclestone had maintained that he wanted to try and agree a deal but comments made earlier this week suggested negotiations had broken down.

However, in a statement published by Reuters Ecclestone has now confirmed that a deal has been agreed and the race will take place on July 7.

"I treasure the Nurburgring and its history," Ecclestone said in a statement on Thursday. "In view of its long tradition, I was glad to support choosing the Nurburgring as the venue for the Formula One."

The announcement brings the number of confirmed races in 2013 up to 19, with the vacant slot for a European round on July 21 still yet to be filled.
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Quick observation on the Mclaren, looks like they got rid of the little wings above the sidepod intakes that directed air to help with the downwash effect on the exhaust.
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The lotus comparison between 2012 and 2013 is a sick comparison! If only we could have that for every car!
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not as good as the lotus comparison, but here's a couple of the mclaren:



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With the rules not changing dramatically for 2013, and teams already devoting much resource to the radical 2014 overhaul, it had been widely expected that the new cars would be mere evolutions of last year's designs.

McLaren has gone much further than that, however. It was reworked its concept in a wide range of areas, including switching to pull-rod suspension, increasing the height of its chassis so it now needs a 'vanity' panel' for a stepped nose, and being ultra-aggressive with the bodywork around the rear.
I thought that nose looked quite a bit higher than last year's car when comparing those pictures.
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Got a 2br loft condo/apt booked through airbnb in Old Port Montreal, so hopefully nothing goes wrong with that between now and race weekend because getting a place would be impossible. I could see us driving up and ending up sleeping in the back of the Chevy Tahoe.
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Got a 2br loft condo/apt booked through airbnb in Old Port Montreal, so hopefully nothing goes wrong with that between now and race weekend because getting a place would be impossible. I could see us driving up and ending up sleeping in the back of the Chevy Tahoe.
Which, strangely, would probably offer more amenities and be more comfortable than some of the places I saw advertised on booking.com or hotels.com. It's amazing what passes for a "hotel" in Montreal. "You want a bathroom? That's extra!"

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