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Old 12-14-2012, 11:27 AM   #51
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ohhhhhh shiiiiittttt soonnnnnn..... Now i know who you are on the forum lol

This is Dave btw lol
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I didnt know who your were and I was reading the shortblock desription and turbo **** and was like that sounds like brians build lol.
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our local machine shop does the re thread of the larger studs. Benson just does the sleeves and o ringing and the rest of the case work like, bore, hone, deck, mainline hone.
Haha, hi!

Oh okay, my mistake.

Yeah... I still have a lot of work to do, and it would be nice of the snow/salt would stay away so I can do my break-in without feeling bad when the engine arrives.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:37 PM   #52
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Also I wouldn't run anything less then 9:1 compression no matter what but that's just me.
It is 9:1. Not sure why he put 8.3:1


Also, DO NOT run Five0 1400's. You will regret it. Any educated, reputable tuner won't tune it with those injectors either. They are horrid injectors that should have never been released to the public. You will fail the motor with those, I promise.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:47 PM   #53
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Dom have you run into problems with their 1200 or 1600?
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:49 PM   #54
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I don't even bother tuning with them. I've seen the response curves for the injectors. Only a fool would waste his time with them.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:04 PM   #55
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It is 9:1. Not sure why he put 8.3:1


Also, DO NOT run Five0 1400's. You will regret it. Any educated, reputable tuner won't tune it with those injectors either. They are horrid injectors that should have never been released to the public. You will fail the motor with those, I promise.
Sounds good to me, I have have only tuned them with aeromotive pumps that keep failing and causing injector problems on e85 so I was planning to give them another go in case my annoyance with them was due to the pump problems. Guess I won't bother even trying them then.

My invoice says 4.030" bore 8.3:1 on the shortblock specs - I figured the 8.3:1 was the compression ratio, did I read it wrong or did the invoice get a typo?
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:15 PM   #56
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That was the original intent, then you and I spoke more about your setup and the size of your turbo. Increasing the ratio was going to help quite a bit.

Weldon Pumps. Aeromotive pumps have never been reliable. The A1000 for example is a 5 min of operation drag race pump... or at least it should be because they overheat very easily and quit.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:20 PM   #57
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That was the original intent, then you and I spoke more about your setup and the size of your turbo. Increasing the ratio was going to help quite a bit.

Weldon Pumps. Aeromotive pumps have never been reliable. The A1000 for example is a 5 min of operation drag race pump... or at least it should be because they overheat very easily and quit.
Ahh okay, it must have just never stuck then.

What Weldon would you recommend for e98? From a quick search I might as well just do a 2345-A so I won't ever have to worry about it, what do you think?
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:48 PM   #58
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That was the original intent, then you and I spoke more about your setup and the size of your turbo. Increasing the ratio was going to help quite a bit.

Weldon Pumps. Aeromotive pumps have never been reliable. The A1000 for example is a 5 min of operation drag race pump... or at least it should be because they overheat very easily and quit.
Yep. burned through 3 of the A1000's in that white POS that's in your shop.

it has a Magnafuel now, been working great since install last year.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:04 PM   #59
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Yep. burned through 3 of the A1000's in that white POS that's in your shop.

it has a Magnafuel now, been working great since install last year.
That was the original plan as that was in the surge tank that I want, but I'd rather do it right the first time if a Weldon is the better choice (I don't know either way just yet, I need to research more).
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:04 PM   #60
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well if Dom recommended the bigger studs in the middle he has a good reason for it---Dom knows what he is doing no doubt.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:51 PM   #61
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Quick analysis of the firing order shows us that the center studs do double duty.

There are 4 bolts per cylinder, which is a crap design as many V8 and I6 guys can attest to. The best engines have 6 or more per cylinder.
Anyway, 4 per cylinder at the far corners. Since the cylinders on each side fire one right after the other (1,3,2,4). This means the center bolts get two rapid events one after the other.
Ever noticed how the OEM center bolts have a higher torque spec even though they use the same bolts?
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:02 PM   #62
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Quick analysis of the firing order shows us that the center studs do double duty.

There are 4 bolts per cylinder, which is a crap design as many V8 and I6 guys can attest to. The best engines have 6 or more per cylinder.
Anyway, 4 per cylinder at the far corners. Since the cylinders on each side fire one right after the other (1,3,2,4). This means the center bolts get two rapid events one after the other.
Ever noticed how the OEM center bolts have a higher torque spec even though they use the same bolts?
Excellent post. Never thought about it like that.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:22 PM   #63
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Excellent post. Never thought about it like that.
thank you. We think of all kinds of weird **** here.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:48 PM   #64
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lol ^. it actually makes really good sense though obviously. bet thats exactly the reason the center 2 head bolts go that last step.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:05 PM   #65
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Got my exhaust bits the other day from fobiawrx and they look amazing!

Also looks like my engine ships in the morning!
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:48 PM   #66
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Awesome! Can't wait to see pics.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:56 PM   #67
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Any updates?
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:49 PM   #68
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^^ I concur
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:07 PM   #69
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They picked up his engine last week. He should see it in a couple days.
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:29 PM   #70
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I saw some stuff on Instagram from people.


Dual fuel injector tgv's mmmmm
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:07 PM   #71
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I got a message and a photo texted to me saying my engine arrived at 6* today. How the hell am I supposed to work the rest of the day now?!

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I got a message and a photo texted to me saying my engine arrived at 6* today. How the hell am I supposed to work the rest of the day now?!

No photo, no proof.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:17 PM   #73
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No photo, no proof.
I have the photos on my phone, that is all that matters to me. I will take more when I get to the shop this afternoon but probably nothing super pretty. The heads were mounted to the block before it got shipped from MPS so I can't show pretty sleeves or pistons or o-rings.
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you already have those pictures in your thread anyway!

I can't imagine it's going to be "pretty" as the heads were used and the block is seasoned. The dyno sheet should be somewhat pretty.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:36 PM   #75
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you already have those pictures in your thread anyway!

I can't imagine it's going to be "pretty" as the heads were used and the block is seasoned. The dyno sheet should be somewhat pretty.
Yeah, I do, but it is kind of different, or at least in my head it is, when you see it personally. I can pet it gently and give it a name...

Yeah, it is going to be a bit before everything is ready for rape tune but at least driving it again is going to be a good time. Once it is go time though... I think it is going to be scary. Going from a car that traps 130ish to... whatever the hell this thing is going to do is going to be a more than trivial jump.
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