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Old 09-10-2013, 03:14 PM   #1
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Well I'm currently deployed and im having my motor dropped and while its out i wanna start building it up. I have a build list and i was wondering what other ppl might think at the same time. If i need to change anything? or will this work




ACL bearings- Main: ACL Race Main Bearing Set Standard Size Position
Rods: ACL Race Rod Bearings Standard Size 52mm
Pistons- CP Piston Set 100m Bore 9:0:1 CR Subaru Turbo 2.5L
Rods- Brian Crower BC625 Connecting Rods
Head Gasket- Cosworth High Performance Head Gasket 1.5mm 101
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Valves- Stock
Springs- Brian Crower Single Spring/Titanium Retainer Kit
Intake Valve Guides- Stock
Valve Keepers- Stock
HeadStuds- ARP Head Stud Kit
Gasket Set- Subaru OEM Complete Gasket Kit
Pitch Stop Mount- Perrin Stop Mount
Engine Mounts- Perrin Engine Mount Kit
Hood Dampers- NRG or Tein Dampers
Transmission Mount- Perrin Transmission Mount
Boost Solenoid- Grimmspeed Boost Solenoid
AOS- Crawford FMIC Air Oil Separator
Fuel Rail Kit- Injector Dynamics Side Feed Conversion Feed Line Kit
Injectors- Injector Dynamics Fuel Injectors 1000cc w/ Top Feed
Radiator- Mishimoto Radiator
Coolant Overflow- Perrin Coolant Overflow Tank
Fuel Pump- Walbro Fuel Pump Kit 255lph
3 Bar Map Sensor- Omni Power 3 Bar MAP Sensor
Flywheel- Exedy Lightweight Flywheel
Clutch- Exedy Stage 1 Heavy Duty Organic Disc Maybe Upgrade
Pulleys- Perrin Lightweight Crank Pulley Red
WaterPump- Gates Racing Water Pump Installed
Timing Belt- Gates Timing Belt Installed
Short Shifter- COBB Tuning Adjustable Short Throw Shifter
TGV deletes- Cosworth Tumbler Delete Housings Top Feed
Turbo Inlet- AMR inlet
Wastegate- Tial MV-S Wastegate 38mm red w/ All Springs
Turbo- Blouch Dominator 5.0XT-R
FMIC- Perrin Front Mount Red Tube
UpPipe- GrimmSpeed 38mm V-Band External Wastegate
Downpipe- Cobb Downpipe
Intake- Perrin Cold Air Intake BigMAF Comes with FMIC
Exhaust- HKS 3” CatBack Debating
BOV- HKS SSQV
Gauges- Prosport Gauges (And Carbon Triple Gauge Pod)
AccessPort- Cobb AccessPort
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:02 PM   #2
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:51 PM   #3
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No oiling upgrades

What is the purpose of this car? Daily driver, drag, road coarse, etc...?
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Old 09-12-2013, 04:19 PM   #4
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:39 PM   #5
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5.0XT-R and you're not going to beat on it?
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Old 09-12-2013, 06:53 PM   #6
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I hope u plan on going to the strip with it at least a couple times. Your wasting your money on a 5.0 xtr for wat? Get a 3.0xtr n ull probably have plenty
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:34 PM   #7
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youll get around 420 or so with a dom 3 its plenty of fun! reccoment a 11 mm oil pump and killer b oil pickup dont want all the money going to waste when the stock oil pickup goes
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Old 09-13-2013, 03:14 PM   #8
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so the dom 3 is the better way to go?
and oil work... got it
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Old 09-13-2013, 03:27 PM   #9
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ACL bearings- Main: ACL Race Main Bearing Set Standard Size Position 5 93
Rods: ACL Race Rod Bearings Standard Size 52mm 56
Pistons- CP Piston Set 100m Bore 9:0:1 CR Subaru Turbo 2.5L 621
Rods- Brian Crower BC625 Connecting Rods 637
Head Gasket- Cosworth High Performance Head Gasket 1.5mm 101 Bore 130
Valves- Stock
Springs- Brian Crower Single Spring/Titanium Retainer Kit 242
Intake Valve Guides- Stock
Valve Keepers- Stock
HeadStuds- ARP Head Stud Kit 200
Gasket Set- Subaru OEM Complete Gasket Kit 300
Pitch Stop Mount- Perrin Stop Mount 107
Engine Mounts- Perrin Engine Mount Kit 323
Hood Dampers- NRG or Tein Dampers 100
Transmission Mount- Perrin Transmission Mount 200
Boost Solenoid- Grimmspeed Boost Solenoid 100
AOS- Crawford TMIC Air Oil Separator 400
Fuel Rail Kit- Injector Dynamics Side Feed Conversion Feed Line Kit Subaru 250
Injectors- Injector Dynamics Fuel Injectors 1000cc w/ Top Feed Fuel Rails 670
Radiator- Mishimoto Radiator 350
Coolant Overflow- Perrin Coolant Overflow Tank 143
Fuel Pump- Walbro Fuel Pump Kit 255lph 118
3 Bar Map Sensor- Omni Power 3 Bar MAP Sensor 100
Flywheel- Exedy Lightweight Flywheel 350
Clutch- Exedy Stage 1 Heavy Duty Organic Disc Maybe Upgrade
Pulleys- Perrin Lightweight Crank Pulley Red 135
WaterPump- Gates Racing Water Pump Installed
Timing Belt- Gates Timing Belt Installed
Short Shifter- COBB Tuning Adjustable Short Throw Shifter 175
TGV deletes- Cosworth Tumbler Delete Housings Top Feed and Gaskets 775
Turbo Inlet- AMR inlet 300
Turbo- Blouch Dominator 3.0XT-R 10cm^2 1800
Oil Pump- Cosworth Blueprinted Oil Pump w/ High Pressure Mod & Install Kit
Oil Pan- Killer B Motorsport Aluminum Oil Pan 450
TMIC- Process West Top Mount Intercooler 911
UpPipe- GrimmSpeed Ceramic Coated Blue Uppipe215
Downpipe- Cobb Downpipe 600
Intake- Perrin Cold Air Intake 305
Exhaust- HKS 3” CatBack Debating
BOV- HKS SSQV 300
Gauges- Prosport Gauges (And Carbon Triple Gauge Pod For Clock)
AccessPort- Cobb AccessPort 600
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Old 09-14-2013, 01:57 PM   #10
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i would not go wit the prosport gauges. I currently have the wideband gauge and it is not reliable at all. just my .02
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Old 09-15-2013, 12:22 AM   #11
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the cosworth tgvs cost 3 times what the motive autowerks or grimspeed units do. I would just go with one of those units. I have the motive autowerks and they are pretty nice.

Also you may want to talk to the person building your motor about the oil pump you may not really need extra oil pressure and in some cases the higher pressure can cause foaming and be detrimental.

For the crank pulley on a DD you pay want to stick with a DAMPER, the perrin unit is not a damper and could lead to premature wear of rods/bearings. The ATI superdamper is lighter than stock but still helps with harmonics as its a damper, again you may want to mention that to the person building your motor. You also have a light weight fly wheel listed, that along w/ a lightweight crank pulley could cause check engine lights, or make 1st gear kind of annoying for a dd.

A DOM 3 may max your MAF so you want to think about a 73 mm intake.

No Headers? The killer b headers w/ an EWG is an awesome set up..the spool is incredible.

You dont need a BOV but rather a bpv unless you plan on doing speed density.

Also why 100mm piston? I would go smaller then down the road you can do a rebuild on the same case halves, if you start at 100 then you dont have any room later really. Regardless I have have the cp pistons and had them coated and my motor is pretty quiet and has been breaking in quite nicely. I suggest the calico ceramic coatings. Good Luck!! Just my two cents, I just finished a pretty huge build so I did a lot of research.
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:18 AM   #12
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You could go rotated and not spend a penny more. Spending $600 for a downpipe is nuts just to have a name stamped on it. I spent $1500 on my rotated kit including turbo. All new parts. Great welds too. Back purged with argon. Not ebay crap. Good quality custom work. There are a lot of places you can save money and have equal or better results. If money is no object, by all means stick with what you have. But like the guy above me said about MAW composite tgv's - $220 and MUCH better performance than Crawford. See, we just saved you $500! The Dom3xtr is a great turbo, but you pay more for stock location. I'll sub this thread if you have more questions.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:48 PM   #13
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So your saying rotated is a cheaper way to go? Because i was considering the Perrin 35R rotated kit
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:00 PM   #14
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I suggest looking into buying some of these parts used. Many of these items can be picked up for 1/3 of what you're planning on spending.

$775 for TGV's is INSANE.
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:48 PM   #15
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So your saying rotated is a cheaper way to go? Because i was considering the Perrin 35R rotated kit
Nope. That's not what I said at all. This is what I said:
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You could go rotated and not spend a penny more.
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I suggest looking into buying some of these parts used. Many of these items can be picked up for 1/3 of what you're planning on spending.

$775 for TGV's is INSANE.
Agreed. However, be careful what parts you buy used.
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:25 PM   #16
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Ok got it. Yeah well im stationed in Germany so im guessing waiting till i get back stateside will be my best bet
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:28 AM   #17
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Where is the car at here in the US? Just wondering about local shops to you.

Best not to do anything in Germany. There is not enough support over there at least not near where I was. I had some beater subies over there but waited to buy my WRX until I moved back.

I agree with the rotated statement.

Having gone from vf39
to 20g to different 20g with bigger tmic

I have finally gone rotated and fmic... FTMFW

I had the works done with my stock location stuff, headers, ewg uppipe, intake, inlet. After all was sold I could have had my pick of quite a few rotated setups.

I ended up with a very nice Tigwerks setup... which I highly recommend. His work is like motorhead porn.

He'll go as simple or as far as you want to go.
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Old 10-24-2013, 01:08 PM   #18
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The car isnt in the states. Its in germany. Im deployed right now and when i get back , im heading back stateside so i was looking to wait till i got back stateside to do the engine build. And yeah ive been hearing alot about the rotated setup and heard its the best way to go. I may be in texas when i get back so i might have to start looking for shops out there
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:24 PM   #19
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Yeah wait until you get back and use this time to research exactly what you want.
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:05 PM   #20
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Look at Type2's build he is rotated with a TMIC.

There is a lot of stuff on your list you can do without. The perrin collant overflow is for FMIC fitment. An 11 mm oil pump will flow penty for what you are doing, the cosworths are usually for race engines with larger clearances or destroked motors revving much higher. There are are better rod choices than brian crower. Stock head gaskets are usually recommended over the cosworths. I'd look at an ETS TMIC if you want a tmic, since you can get a 08+ that is wider than a processwest. ETS also offers a military discount. If you go rotated they have Turbo kits as well as P&L who also has a military discount.

You also won't need side feed conversion rails if you swap TGV's to top feed ones.

I just hate to see money wasted.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:45 PM   #21
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Ok sounds good man. Yeah i guess im just keeping my ears open to suggestions. I appreciate your insight and would definitely check these out
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:41 PM   #22
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wrx tgvs are top feed, and deleted about 200. Save money on that cosworth oil pump and get what stock pump a builder specifys. There are larger stock location fuel pumps out now, that can readily supply enough fuel on stock rails, even on e85. A fuel pressure regulator and a pump with those Id 1000's will go far.
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