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Old 11-28-2012, 08:01 PM   #1
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Default Can someone tell me why this STI appears to have paddle shifters?

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Old 11-28-2012, 08:02 PM   #2
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They do come like that in some other countries.
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:07 PM   #3
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I missed the paddles ???
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:10 PM   #4
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Forgive me if this is ridiculous. I'm very curious.

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Because it's an automatic sti.....duh.
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:12 PM   #5
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Because it's an automatic sti.....duh.
This. A-Line is my guess.
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:24 PM   #6
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They do come like that in some other countries.
And so they do. Sorry, I posted too soon it appears.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:39 PM   #7
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Auto STI...doesn't seem right. The wave of the future I guess. It's unreal how quickly these cars shift nowadays.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:42 PM   #8
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It's the A-Line. IIRC it's a 2.5L engine with a 5EAT and was JDM only.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:45 PM   #9
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It's almost as bad as VW slacking on manuals. Sacrilege to all drivers!
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:46 PM   #10
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Auto STI...doesn't seem right. The wave of the future I guess. It's unreal how quickly these cars shift nowadays.
I always thought the same thing. After I drove a GTR, my mindset changed.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:06 PM   #11
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I always thought the same thing. After I drove a GTR, my mindset changed.
Physically faster.. But more fun? That's debatable.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:13 PM   #12
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There is a big difference in the paddle shifters on the skyline vs lets say... An auto rx-8 or any other run of the mill car. Most of us will never be able to experience such a transmission.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:25 PM   #13
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There are some valve body mods available for the 5EAT on the legacy gt which makes shifts much quicker

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Old 11-28-2012, 10:25 PM   #14
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There is a big difference in the paddle shifters on the skyline vs lets say... An auto rx-8 or any other run of the mill car. Most of us will never be able to experience such a transmission.
How bout a volkswagen golf? DSG transmissions are not that hard to come by.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:50 PM   #15
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There is a big difference in the paddle shifters on the skyline vs lets say... An auto rx-8 or any other run of the mill car. Most of us will never be able to experience such a transmission.
By skyline you mean gtr? And yeah, when you add $100k the shifting better be different. Takes atleast another clutch and alot of engineering to make the flappy paddles feel right. I think a standard 5 or 6spd is much, much more fun then a flappy paddle!
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:44 AM   #16
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By skyline you mean gtr? And yeah, when you add $100k the shifting better be different. Takes atleast another clutch and alot of engineering to make the flappy paddles feel right. I think a standard 5 or 6spd is much, much more fun then a flappy paddle!
It has nothing to do with more clutches. It is a totally different transmission. The GTR uses a dual clutch transmission, which is esentially a manual transmission with a computer controlled clutch. You hit the paddle and it shifts almost instantly. A torque converter automatic can have flappy paddles, but they just tell the TCM that you want to upshift or downshift, and generally don't react very fast. The TCM may also decide it doesn't want to up/downshift
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:17 AM   #17
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I will never buy a car without an actual clutch pedal on the floor and a traditional gate-style shifter. Just me though, faster or not, without a true stick in the car it's just not the same.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:21 AM   #18
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It's the A-Line. IIRC it's a 2.5L engine with a 5EAT and was JDM only.
They have them in Australia too. They're HIGHLY detuned.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:34 AM   #19
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They have them in Australia too. They're HIGHLY detuned.
Same in the middle east aswell.
My friend has one,and let me tell you.It's as slow as a turd compared to the Six speed STi's!
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:40 AM   #20
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Same in the middle east aswell.
My friend has one,and let me tell you.It's as slow as a turd compared to the Six speed STi's!
I saw some dyno curves showing the severe lack of torque compared with a 6mt. I also assume it is heavier. Do not want. I was completely clueless that they exsisted though.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:46 AM   #21
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It has nothing to do with more clutches. It is a totally different transmission. The GTR uses a dual clutch transmission, which is esentially a manual transmission with a computer controlled clutch. You hit the paddle and it shifts almost instantly. A torque converter automatic can have flappy paddles, but they just tell the TCM that you want to upshift or downshift, and generally don't react very fast. The TCM may also decide it doesn't want to up/downshift
This is basically what I said without all the technical terms. And the gtr does shift very smooth but it just feels like it's missing something without a clutch pedal and regular stick. The only car that I think wouldn't be right without flappy paddles is a f1 car. 7 gears is a bit too many.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:47 AM   #22
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2 things Autos are good for


1. Lazy or physically impared people

2. Drag racing. Automatics shift faster (the actual gear change, assuming its set up properly) and generally make one (sometimes 2) less shifts in the 1/4 mile.
---An automatic WRX with a TQ converter and valve body is roughly half a second faster in the 1/4 mile than a 5MT WRX.



I went automatic because my wife has bad knees and I wanted her to be able to drive my car as well, and because its a Mustang and it belongs on the drag strip.



But around a road course, unless its a lightning fast responding automatic, it sucks.

In an Autocross, it depends on the car and the course. If its a course that the car can get into second gear and stay there (just put it in 2) then there is no difference.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:32 AM   #23
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2 things Autos are good for


1. Lazy or physically impared people

2. Drag racing. Automatics shift faster (the actual gear change, assuming its set up properly) and generally make one (sometimes 2) less shifts in the 1/4 mile.
---An automatic WRX with a TQ converter and valve body is roughly half a second faster in the 1/4 mile than a 5MT WRX.



I went automatic because my wife has bad knees and I wanted her to be able to drive my car as well, and because its a Mustang and it belongs on the drag strip.



But around a road course, unless its a lightning fast responding automatic, it sucks.

In an Autocross, it depends on the car and the course. If its a course that the car can get into second gear and stay there (just put it in 2) then there is no difference.
Well, at least you have good reasons for getting an automatic.

Also, horde sucks. Alliance for the win. I had to come up with some sort of reply so I could post that.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:37 AM   #24
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It's the transition to the new[er] generation. You'd be surprised how many people I know that aren't proficient at operating manual transmission vehicles. And of those people that think they can drive stick.... half of them shouldn't be.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:43 AM   #25
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4EATer here.

It was what came up in my budget. 2004 WRX premium with 94k for $8000. Clean body, clean interior, no rust. Complete Cobb stage 2 package too.

Autos are fine for commuting, which I mainly do. I commute, go to meets, some autox, and rarely just go out for a drive. It's a bit slow off the line for autox, but you can shift from 1st to 2nd and just leave it there. It would not be suitable for track applications though.

My 2 cents. I can drive a manual, but this is what came up. I will not say I'm 100% proficient with an manual though.. more practice is needed.

Here's a little page to look up:
http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/vdc-vt...ation-faq.html
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