('11+) Oil question in 2012-2013 Impreza

[M45]

Originally Posted by myrt1987

about $60 i think. my first oil change was free and i did the last one myself but thats what ive seen them advertised as.

but oil change places used to charge about $25 for typical 10w-30 on my last car (not putting my baby through that)

yeah - I'd only do it myself or have a dealer do it. not worth it to deal with one of those quicklube places.

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[M45]

okay. i ordered some filters and the fumoto valve. you guys convinced me. I hate mess.

[stevehnm]

Originally Posted by myrt1987

I dont think 10 minute drives are extreme driving conditions.

Engine wear is *much* more closely related to number of engine starts than miles driven. That's why it's not good to race your engine when you first start it up.

[jr0bb5]

Originally Posted by M45

okay. i ordered some filters and the fumoto valve. you guys convinced me. I hate mess.

You won't regret it! Have had Fumoto valves on my last 3 cars including this one. It's makes oil changes much easier and cleaner... especially if you change your oil as often as I do because of the miles I drive.

[flyboy1100]

Originally Posted by M45

okay. i ordered some filters and the fumoto valve. you guys convinced me. I hate mess.

There is a ton of mess, I did 2 changes without the valve, my next change should be nice and clean

[M45]

Originally Posted by jr0bb5

You won't regret it! Have had Fumoto valves on my last 3 cars including this one. It's makes oil changes much easier and cleaner... especially if you change your oil as often as I do because of the miles I drive.

I'll probably only be doing 1 per year at 5000 mile intervals

[IveBeenRued]

Because of the confusion with our plug size does anyone know the proper part number that we need for the Fumoto Valve(I know someone mentioned it before but I cannot find it)?

[sgoldste01]

Originally Posted by IveBeenRued

Because of the confusion with our plug size does anyone know the proper part number that we need for the Fumoto Valve(I know someone mentioned it before but I cannot find it)?

Go to post #59 in this very thread.

[jay25RS]

Originally Posted by IveBeenRued

Because of the confusion with our plug size does anyone know the proper part number that we need for the Fumoto Valve(I know someone mentioned it before but I cannot find it)?

Look ^ to post 59 or 72.

Originally Posted by Zeeper

someone already pointed out, F108 or F108N, the only difference is the nipple (superior because you can hook up some tubing so no splashing at all...)

[myrt1987]

I looked it up on the website but only the f108n came up for 2012 impreza 2.0i. but they seem to be the exact same and both will be fine. Maybe they didnt update the website? Or its possible Im going blind.

[sgoldste01]

Originally Posted by myrt1987

I looked it up on the website but only the f108n came up for 2012 impreza 2.0i. but they seem to be the exact same and both will be fine. Maybe they didnt update the website? Or its possible Im going blind.

You are correct. The F-108N (with the nipple) and F-108 (no nipple) are identical parts except the nipple. Both will fit our Impreza's correctly, although I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want the nipple.

I don't know why Fumoto doesn't do a better job of updating their web site with proper fitment info. It took a long time for them to properly identify the F-108N for our Imprezas, and they still don't have the F-108 as a suitable fit for our Imprezas. (For a long time people were incorrectly ordering the F-105/105N, because that's what fit the pre-2012 Imprezas, and I believe is still the correct part for the WRX/STI.)

Anyway, please have faith that the F-108N and F-108 are the correct parts for the 2012+ Imprezas. That's what I bought, and is pictured in a previous post of this thread.

[myrt1987]

Yep ordered mine yesterday. Thanks for the info.

[Chris793]

Ordered a Fumoto valve as well. Any issues with this valve vs. standard (sealing or leakage)?

If you were going to keep the car a 100k+ miles, what oil would you use to ensure no oil consumption as the car ages? I am coming up on the first oil change at 3000k, and am leaning towards Amsoil as I have never heard anything negative about it.

[sgoldste01]

Originally Posted by Chris793

Ordered a Fumoto valve as well. Any issues with this valve vs. standard (sealing or leakage)?

If you were going to keep the car a 100k+ miles, what oil would you use to ensure no oil consumption as the car ages? I am coming up on the first oil change at 3000k, and am leaning towards Amsoil as I have never heard anything negative about it.

No leakage from my Fumoto--not from the valve itself, and not from around where the gasket presses against the oil pan. Note that I did not use a crush washer with my Fumoto. I just used the gasket that came with the Fumoto, and nothing else.

I'm using Amsoil OE 0W-20 and a 5k mile oil change interval (with my first oil change at 1500 miles). I use Subaru oil filters (the black filter with the part number ending in "160"). My car is not consuming any oil. But it only has 8k miles on it now, so it's not like this is a long-term endorsement.

So far so good, though.

[jr0bb5]

Originally Posted by Chris793

Ordered a Fumoto valve as well. Any issues with this valve vs. standard (sealing or leakage)?

If you were going to keep the car a 100k+ miles, what oil would you use to ensure no oil consumption as the car ages? I am coming up on the first oil change at 3000k, and am leaning towards Amsoil as I have never heard anything negative about it.

You're either going to have oil consumption, or you're not. I don't think that a particular brand of oil is going to have any effect on this. I've tried a few different brands of 0W20 oil, including Amsoil, and have the same amount of consumption with all of them. If you haven't seen any oil consumption within 3000 miles, it's probably safe to assume that you're not going to have a problem. Amsoil is a good choice if you can get if for a discount. I get it for $4.70/quart by signing up for a $20 per year preferred account on their website.

As far as the valve goes, I've had the Fumoto valve on three cars and have never had a problem with leakage with just using the blue gasket that comes with it.

[pkL]

Originally Posted by jr0bb5

You're either going to have oil consumption, or you're not. I don't think that a particular brand of oil is going to have any effect on this. I've tried a few different brands of 0W20 oil, including Amsoil, and have the same amount of consumption with all of them. If you haven't seen any oil consumption within 3000 miles, it's probably safe to assume that you're not going to have a problem. Amsoil is a good choice if you can get if for a discount. I get it for $4.70/quart by signing up for a $20 per year preferred account on their website.

As far as the valve goes, I've had the Fumoto valve on three cars and have never had a problem with leakage with just using the blue gasket that comes with it.

How does the preferred account work? I see it's available in Canada too, after you've gotten it, you order directly from the site and they ship it to you or would you buy it for that price from an authorized dealer?

[sgoldste01]

Originally Posted by pkL

How does the preferred account work? I see it's available in Canada too, after you've gotten it, you order directly from the site and they ship it to you or would you buy it for that price from an authorized dealer?

Look at the Preferred Customer Program here:

http://ww2.amsoil.com/opportunity.aspx?type=preferred

I've thought about it, but with me only using Amsoil products in one car, the best I would do is break even. When we replace my wife's car (with the new Forester, I'm guessing), then that's when I'll use Amsoil products in two cars, and will probably join the Preferred Customer Program.

[jr0bb5]

Originally Posted by pkL

How does the preferred account work? I see it's available in Canada too, after you've gotten it, you order directly from the site and they ship it to you or would you buy it for that price from an authorized dealer?

Yup, you just order the oil directly from Amsoil's web site after signing up. You can order all the oil, or other supplies, that you want within a years time for the discounted prices.

You will have to pay for shipping though. Not sure how much more it would be to ship to Canada. If I order a case of OE at a time, with shipping charges, I'm paying about $5.60/quart. Still much less than I was quoted from local autherized dealers.

[sgoldste01]

Without being a Preferred Customer, I pay approximately $6.50/quart for Amsoil OE from the local distributor, and I don't pay shipping from him.

[jr0bb5]

Originally Posted by sgoldste01

Without being a Preferred Customer, I pay approximately $6.50/quart for Amsoil OE from the local distributor, and I don't pay shipping from him.

That's actually not bad at all. The cheapest I was quoted from a local distributor was $10 a quart. Another distributor was selling quarts OE for $12!

[Zeeper]

I joined as a preferred customer and ordered oil for two oil changes, so the $10 six month trial fee paid for itself due to the discount it gave me.

Then I decided to do my differentials and my wifes SUV so I bought oil and a filter for her car and the Severe Gear, all discounted.

Since I don't need any more of their products this year I did not renew (I let it lapse, there is no penalty, and I can rejoin as a preferred customer at any time for the same price).

I will rejoin next year when I buy oil for both cars for their annual oil change (I'm only driving under 9,000 miles a year as it is, and my wife is under 15,000 so I am pretty comfortable with Signature series in both).

Of course I can always change my mind about the annual change interval, I did one early oil change at 1,200 to Amsoil OE, and my change to Signature Series was at 7,080, so my current fill has only about 1,500 miles on it!)


If I can find a local dealer I will just buy it, but it is probably easier for me to order it direct.

It is not that expensive, especially if you extend your change interval, and even with the regular change interval it is cheaper than going to the dealer (in my case, they charge about $80 for the synthetic oil change and ancillary services they do)

And as stated before, I did my personal research and think Amsoil is a great oil, so I have no worries running it in my Impreza for the next 500,000 miles.

[sgoldste01]

Originally Posted by jr0bb5

That's actually not bad at all. The cheapest I was quoted from a local distributor was $10 a quart. Another distributor was selling quarts OE for $12!

My local distributor charges the exact same price as shown on the Amsoil web site. I just looked it up: $6.10/qt of OE 0W-20.

http://www.amsoil.com/catalog.aspx?GroupID=10051

And he doesn't charge shipping, since I pick it up at his house. He doesn't keep inventory of the OE product, so I order it a couple of weeks before I need it, and he just includes it with his weekly order.

[Zeeper]

Originally Posted by sgoldste01

My local distributor charges the exact same price as shown on the Amsoil web site. I just looked it up: $6.10/qt of OE 0W-20.

http://www.amsoil.com/catalog.aspx?GroupID=10051

And he doesn't charge shipping, since I pick it up at his house. He doesn't keep inventory of the OE product, so I order it a couple of weeks before I need it, and he just includes it with his weekly order.

If you pay Amsoil $10 for a six month or $20 for a 12 month preferred customer card you save 25%, so you can buy the OE for $4.70 quart plus shipping.

You can probably get a discount from your vendor.

It really depends upon how much you buy, I bought two oil changes worth at once so it was worth it to pay the extra $20 for the discount. Then when I reordered for my wifes car and my differentials I still had the 25% discount on that order.

http://www.amsoil.com/a/synthetic-motor-oil-engine-oil

[bradze]

ok, so i guess im not the only one who's new impreza is burning oil. i guess an extra quart of oil between changes isn't bad. but, the ej25 in my outback doesn't burn any oil. every car i've had since i started driving 15 years ago has used M1 synthetic. ive never had any problems and some of those cars were turbos that saw lots of track use.

[M45]

Which amsoil do you guys buy? The cheapest 0w-20 synthetic they carry?

Also what kind of shipping rates do you guys typically see?