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Old 12-24-2012, 09:11 PM   #26
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OP, regardless of why the CEL is on, your car will be in limp mode, which is going to kill your fuel economy. Seriously in limp mode, expect the same fuel mileage as a Humvee. Secondly, the random BOV is probably screwing with your Air Fuel Ratio any time you come off throttle. Combine that with the pretty good chance that the previous owner cranked the boost way beyond where it should be and you wouldn't catch me driving it all that far.
Lastly, I would not trust the dealership that sold me that car and omitted all of that info to fix things the right way. From what you're saying, it needs cats, suspension work, and has engine issues - That's all expensive to fix, and easy to lie about fixing. Hell with a tactrix cable they can shut off the check engine code.
I seriously hope it all works out for you, but make sure you get everything in writing and get the repairs checked out by a different shop once they're done.
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:35 PM   #27
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Listen, all the people who at like ,don't buy a modded car. Don't listen to them. I bought my car with a pro tune from Ecutek, and full cat back exhaust. Since then I've upgraded a lot more things and run into ZERO issues. If you're buying a modded car, you know what you're getting yourself into.


As stated by other users, I'd return the car if possible with compression numbers like that...
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:06 AM   #28
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From one navy man to another good luck. Or fair winds and following sea. And you need to do a lot of research on these cars. I bought my car a month ago and have probably spent almost 50 hrs in the last month looking at various threads on numerous wrx and sti sites.
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:37 AM   #29
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Its cool they are willing to help build a block for you and all, but its a wasted investment that you are being forced into. Return it and buy a clean STI with no issues. Then mod at your own pace when you have better knowledge.
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:27 AM   #30
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Oh jesus christ..... You made a foolish mistake buying a car without getting it checked out. Fine. Live and learn. But wait.... You have the option to return this POS car and cut your losses, but INSTEAD you have decided to spend FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS on a new engine that should not have been blown in the first place, not including the suspension and other trashed up bits. Oh, also since you don't know jack about cars, don't forget to tack on a couple thousand dollars for labor. Or more.

This dealership that only sells cars that "matter" is taking advantage of you. They are feeding you bullcrap and right now you need someone to help you see straight. Your not thinking with your head. Your an easy target with $15k burning a hole in your pocket. You are being manipulated. You fell in love after one test drive of one STi. Purchasing a car should be as emotionless as possible precisely so something like this does not occur.

Take the car back. Keep saving your money and in your free time hang out on here and other boards learning everything you can. Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever buy a sports car without getting it fully inspected. These cars are routinely beaten to within an inch of their life. Mark my words if you keep this car it will be a money pit and you will regret it. Learn then buy. Not the other way around.

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Old 12-25-2012, 01:56 AM   #31
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Oh jesus christ..... You made a foolish mistake buying a car without getting it checked out. Fine. Live and learn. But wait.... You have the option to return this POS car and cut your losses, but INSTEAD you have decided to spend FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS on a new engine that should not have been blown in the first place, not including the suspension and other trashed up bits. Oh, also since you don't know jack about cars, don't forget to tack on a couple thousand dollars for labor. Or more.

This dealership that only sells cars that "matter" is taking advantage of you. They are feeding you bullcrap and right now you need someone to help you see straight. Your not thinking with your head. Your an easy target with $15k burning a hole in your pocket. You are being manipulated. You fell in love after one test drive of one STi. Purchasing a car should be as emotionless as possible precisely so something like this does not occur.

Take the car back. Keep saving your money and in your free time hang out on here and other boards learning everything you can. Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever buy a sports car without getting it fully inspected. These cars are routinely beaten to within an inch of their life. Mark my words if you keep this car it will be a money pit and you will regret it. Learn then buy. Not the other way around.

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Ya this guy is blunt and to the point but very right. Like I said I had a similar situation with my car and it ran like **** right after I bought it. They were to dumb to figure out that it was just a loose injector wire so I got a great deal but they still manipulated me into buying my car that they knew was not running properly. I would seriously just return that car and wait it out till you find the right one. Stis are all over the place with the minority of them being beat to hell but of you wait you can and will find one that is in good shape and worth the money. You shouldn't have to put money into a car that you just purchased.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:15 AM   #32
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Holy smokes, this thread reads like a trainwreck. I'd return the car ASAP to the shady dealership that sold it in that condition. And I certainly wouldn't trust that same dealership to do any work, not even filling up the tires with air. From what it sounds like, that car is a ticking timebomb waiting to destroy your bank account.

I've owned used M cars in the past, and while some of them have been thrashed, the majority have been modless and driven like Camrys. The same can't be said of the cheaper performance cars like Evos, STIs, Nissan Zs, RX8s, etc. They've usually been modded to varying degrees of insanity and have been to hell and back.
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:12 AM   #33
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I hate to pee in your Gatorade but it really doesn't sound like the shop is leveling with you. That CEL isn't on because the ECU 'doesn't recognize' the downpipe, its on because the untuned downpipe is causing the car to run improperly. This can lead to a short life for the block.

The initial mod list in this post reads like a clasic list of mods to explicitly avoid. I know it might hurt your pride a bit, but the safest course of action at this pointwould be to return the STi and keep shopping. Modding a turbo car with a draw through MAF is no joke and everything really needs to be tuned for.

I really hope you can take a step back from the situation and realize that no car is worth the kind of financial strain that this project could lead to.

Good luck.
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:34 AM   #34
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from one enthusiast to another please research more before making purchases, you are experiencing the stress caused by lack of research. whether you would have made the purchase knowing the condition of the car or not is somewhat irrelevant as the big hit is that you are not prepared for it, nor are you well equipped to talk to anyone intelligently about a resolution.

what you are doing right: your attitude here shows you are willing to learn and that is great! it is very important to keep this attitude despite the trolls out there.

it is not too late to get up to speed on how your car works, but i think you need to bring it back to stock and pay it off. until its paid off, consider what you honestly do not like about the car, and then research the best way to make modifications. if you understand all risks and are prepared, you can be stress free and will not need to beg and plead for advice on message boards.
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:39 AM   #35
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Merry christmas to the OP! you will have a Miracle wished by me
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:20 AM   #36
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They saw you coming a mile away. Military, check. Dumb kid, check. Money hanging out of his pockets with no idea, check. You sir are a used car salesmans dream!
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Old 12-25-2012, 11:56 AM   #37
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hope you got money for a tow truck when the car blows up 1/2 way thru the trip
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:03 PM   #38
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Not sure how much it will be out there, but I just entirely replaced my engine. Used the old heads (had them services though), dropped in an STI block because I got it at such a good deal. I also replaced all the peripherals, IE: oil pump, water pump, timing belt, pulleys, **** load of o rings, plus all the fluids. Between labor and everything, I dropped about $6000. I actually spent more than that, because I replaced a CV axle, put in a stage 2 Competition Clutch, and filled my tranny and rear diff with Amsoil gear oil. The $6000 is just for the engine related stuff.


That may give you am idea of how much it's going to cost you to replace / rebuild.
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:22 PM   #39
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Let this be a lesson to have an inspection done BEFORE you purchase a used car.
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:39 PM   #40
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what ship are you stationed on so I can personally slap some sense into your dumb a$$
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Old 12-25-2012, 07:08 PM   #41
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I remember being 19 and getting a car, not an STI but getting the excitement of the car I was going to get and then it sold and I had the lost excitement, that is what you are feeling now realizing you got screwed over. You are not seeing straight, you have the oppurtunity to take it back and get a refund, yet you foolishly choose to keep it. I just had an engine rebuild you are looking at about $5,000 and if your block goes as well, add another $2,000 to that. So rather than spending almost $7,000 ON TOP of what you paid for the car, why not take it back and get something that requires little to no work and save money?

You should of spent a good 3 months on here reading and asking questions before buying a car you know nothing about. As mentioned before you were a salesman wet dream. It is very obvious you are not taking our advice and we look forward to your upcoming, "my engine is making funny sounds" thread. Merry Christmas.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:30 PM   #42
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Why do so many people come here looking for advice, then receive the advice .... And then do the complete opposite of the advice?

Look OP, its your money so do what you want. But its pretty convienient they sold you a car with a bad motor, but just happen to have a guy that can do it for you at cost. Oh, and BTW ... 5K for a shortblock install is what you will pay anywhere ... They are not giving you a deal.

Anyways, just do us all a favor and don't bother asking for advice if you have no intentions of following the advice.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:33 PM   #43
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Why do so many people come here looking for advice, then receive the advice .... And then do the comlete opposite of the advice?

Look OP, its your money so do what you want. But its pretty convienient they sold you a car with a bad motor, but just happen to have a guy that can do it for you at cost. Oh, and BTW ... 5K for a shortblock install is what you will pay anywhere ... They are not giving you a deal.

Anyways, just do us all a favor and don't bother asking for advice if you have no intentions of following the advice.
Humans, by nature, look for information to confirm their beliefs. What you guys are saying is not going with what he already thinks. This is why, if you are going to ask for advice, TAKE IT!
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:17 AM   #44
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Turns out she's gonna make the drive, and I worked out a plan with the dealer. The CEL and Cruise light only turn on because the ECU doesn't recognize my BOV or my downpipe. However, she'll make the drive. I worked something out with the dealership as well, because they love sti's. That's what they specialize in... It's not just some Mom and Pop car dealership where there's a bunch of ****ty civics, a couple of acuras, a random ass ford explorer and then an sti. Their selection consists of bmw m3's, subaru sti's, mitsu evo's, nissan 300zx's, all cars that actually MATTER. That are actually doing something, that have a legacy. Himself and his brothers run the business, and he introduced me to his cousin who works at subaru himself. I can get an engine swap and forged parts for under 5k because he says he'll do it at his business license price. I'll have even more money after I go out to sea next month for aircraft flight operations and anti-piracy missions. It's gonna be sweet.

What most of you don't see is that I'm not trying to go like 293847239847239whp and ****, I'm going functionally basic.. 350whp, and then focus on cosmetic stuff, and just keep my car maintained after a protune. I want my car for personal projection, and self-validation for the most part... You can all understand. A man and his car. My smog is good for two years, and the downpipe adds like another 25hp (However, not tuned.) It's not like I'm running a fat turbo on my stock blocks, so I'm not risking any bearing spins.
I don't ever recall being this naive as a 19 year old. I can understand lack of knowledge or experience with something like this, but at which point does it become explicit stupidity? There's plenty of good advice in this thread, but none of it really matters if this kid refuses to consider any of it.

Please, take your sketchy ass car back to the sketchy ass stealership that you bought it from. Have them put a sub-$5k motor in it with "forged" internals (like you'll actually be able to check, right?) and sub-par workmanship... maybe they'll give you a free bottle of lube with your bill

Consider yourself warned.
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:39 AM   #45
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If you dont mind me asking what is the name of this dealership?
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:02 AM   #46
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This thread is full of goodness.

Op sucks. Next thread.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:07 PM   #47
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Magna flow doesn't make a downpipe. Being unturned for a downpipe on a 32 bit ecu is the best way to ruin that block quick. You cannot tune for a bov, so they're blowing smoke up your ass. Cam seals have negative 1000% to do with compression. I wouldn't trust that car to drive across the city, let alone across a state or country. That low compression cylinder is out of safe limits, and continuing to drive it like this means more damage.

You got taken. You didn't get any inspection, you bought a nodded car with problems, and now you need serious work done. The dealer doesn't care if you make it more then 10ft off the lot. You signed for the car AS IS. Being navy I expected nothing more. Maybe you'll learn now.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:27 PM   #48
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If you dont mind me asking what is the name of this dealership?
Time Auto Group would be my guess based on his descriptions of the transaction.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:42 PM   #49
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:32 PM   #50
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Dude Navy Guy!!!! Return it! Do it!!!!

The only reason I would keep it is if I was going FULL OUT race car.
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