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Old 12-09-2012, 12:25 PM   #1
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last time i was in town i had another tune session and we got a lil more power out of the car. we ran into a fueling issue with the meth injection and had to cut short, I want to make it to 400 AWHP. Right now im peaked at 366AWHP. I have a stock EJ207 with a Deadbolt TD06 20G, 7cm exhaust side with a clipped turbine wheel. all supporting mods and FMIC, etc. In your the opinion of the power GURUs on NASIOC, do you think once we getting the fueling issue smoothed out we can make it to my goal?

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Old 12-09-2012, 12:55 PM   #2
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It would be nice to know what fuel your using? Injector size? Fuel pump? What psi are you at? IDC etc....
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:02 PM   #3
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^ that hope mine gets to where yours is at.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:07 PM   #4
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Sorry forgot to add that in. I'm running pump 93 with a SMC meth kit. DW850 injectors currently 23 psi targeted. Walbro 255 lph pump. Still running lil rich. Going to lean out some more once I get my AEM methanol injection system installed. Currently the meth nozzle is so large that we are running under 70% IDC if i recall correctly. Didnt see the exact number but my tuner said im using less gas under full boost then any other car hes tunned with a ej207. What else do you need to know?
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:19 PM   #5
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Hmmm what afrs are you guys targeting or currently at?
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:38 PM   #6
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It looks like 11.2
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:49 PM   #7
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You running 70/30 or 50/50 on the meth? Honestly I would lean it out a bit and you'll pick up some power. Somewhere in the 11.7 range maybe even a bit higher. I don't think you will hit 400 but you'll deff be closer. Also do you know what your mbt is at wot?
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:04 PM   #8
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Are you utilizing avcs?
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:30 PM   #9
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That turbo should do 330 on 93 nd no meth averge hp on 20 psi. You should be able to rise that by 30 hp pretty easy with meth and timing alone on 20 psi. Add another 30 with some more boost and yea, your knocking on 400 on that dyno.

If your spraying to much meth your already killing your numbers on that pull.

You could always just throw some more boost on what you have now and keep your fingers crossed
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:32 PM   #10
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Avcs won't come close to getting him another 40 up top....
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:10 PM   #11
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Meth and lean it out. Boom 40whp. If you can't get 40whp from adding meth and getting a little more on the tune your failing us. Lol just messing but ya 360whp gas only seems decent for 23.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:18 AM   #12
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:52 AM   #13
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Just actually saw ur not running the meth? If not then yeah u should hit 400 n lean it out to the high 11s like I was saying. I read it as if u were at 11.2 afrs with meth lol
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:48 PM   #14
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is this iwg or ewg?
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:24 PM   #15
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Sorry for not replying, Got sent out to work and didnt have access to the internet. I bought my AEM HD twin nozzle Meth system. I want to also grab a AEM tru-boost controller to go along with it before installing it and retuning. When everything is installed I'm going to set the scramble mode to 25PSI to get to my 400AWHP, 20-22 PSI for normal fun. and 14.5 PSI on wastegate spring for DD duty.

I'm running a 50/50 meth solution and yes it was targeting around 11.2 We were going to lean out but the meth system started to have issues so we called it early and are going to pick it back up when the new equipment gets installed.

@nuke209 Yes the AVCS is being fully utilized.

@isca21 What does MBT stand for? I am running the meth now but it's spraying way to much right now.

@sumfoo1 I'm using a tial 44mm external wastegate.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:27 AM   #16
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Sorry for not replying, Got sent out to work and didnt have access to the internet. I bought my AEM HD twin nozzle Meth system. I want to also grab a AEM tru-boost controller to go along with it before installing it and retuning. When everything is installed I'm going to set the scramble mode to 25PSI to get to my 400AWHP, 20-22 PSI for normal fun. and 14.5 PSI on wastegate spring for DD duty.

I'm running a 50/50 meth solution and yes it was targeting around 11.2 We were going to lean out but the meth system started to have issues so we called it early and are going to pick it back up when the new equipment gets installed.

@nuke209 Yes the AVCS is being fully utilized.

@isca21 What does MBT stand for? I am running the meth now but it's spraying way to much right now.

@sumfoo1 I'm using a tial 44mm external wastegate.
MBT = Minimum Best Timing. It's the point at which timing has reached 99% of your peak torque. For example, if you had a car running 17-18 Degrees of timing, and you increased it beyond this threshold and it did not make anymore torque = MBT.

Also, why only low-mid 20's for boost if all you're after is a number? I'm sure with more boost, and leaner AFR's, you could get to the power that you want to achieve, albeit it wouldn't be a tune that you'd want to run every day.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:03 AM   #17
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MBT = Minimum Best Timing. It's the point at which timing has reached 99% of your peak torque. For example, if you had a car running 17-18 Degrees of timing, and you increased it beyond this threshold and it did not make anymore torque = MBT.

Also, why only low-mid 20's for boost if all you're after is a number? I'm sure with more boost, and leaner AFR's, you could get to the power that you want to achieve, albeit it wouldn't be a tune that you'd want to run every day.
That's what my tuner told me as well. We stopped tunning because of an issue with the methanol system. Once a get some new toys installed we will be tuning again. My tuner said he think if we can lean out closer to a 11.8 - 12 and run 25 psi with the different method kit we should be easily at 400awhp. I can't remember what max timing we settled at but he got to where more timing didn't make my re power but there was also no knock so he backed off one step and stopped there. We started to lean out to make the rest of the power but started having the issues.

I do have a question about the ecu though and I was wondering if anyone here had the answer. If we tune for 25 psi and I turn the boost down to 22 or 14 on waste gate the ecu can still run it properly right? Is the EJ207 ecu capable of running in that manner? My friends AEM standalone could do that and I've been told the EJ207 ecu has practically all the features of a standalone. It'd make it a lot nicer if I could get it setup like that.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:53 AM   #18
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wanna see 400? lower the smoothing.


I wouldn't try and chase a number, thats how people get in trouble and get greedy.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:35 AM   #19
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If ur going past 22psi get a omni 4bar map sensor, you'll have more resolution and thus will be able to tune safer and more accurately above it.
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