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Old 03-27-2013, 11:59 AM   #1851
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I agree they aren't all photos, but this definitely is not a computer generated image. Look at the lighting and the shadows on the image.
I'll agree to disagree. The "A" in "SUBARU" on the brakes looks iffy to me, and if you zoom in on the shadow to the right of that tire, you'll see darker, perpendicular lines that should not be there.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:02 PM   #1852
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Seriously? That's depressing. You youngin's need to know your roots!




Type V Sti Wagon



Type VI Sti wagon.
Okay yes! THIS I can get behind! Unfortunately, people don't want wagons anymore.

Thanks for clarifying and providing pictures. I'm surprised I didn't know about these seeing as how I was all over it with my GC... JDM Legacy STI wagons are more my thing anyways. Tokyo Xtreme Racer Zero!!!
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:02 PM   #1853
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I agree they aren't all photos, but this definitely is not a computer generated image. Look at the lighting and the shadows on the image.

That's totally a render. Quite fake looking, actually. The shadows are some of the easiest parts of basic 101 rendering. The paint is the dead giveaway it's a render.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:04 PM   #1854
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I can't believe people still don't think these pics are from Subaru haha.

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I know you didn't, I did. The timeline you gave, spring '14 release, implies either this is the production version or they have the production car pretty much ready to go (shape and specs determined, refinement of build process and fitment remaining). But there's no way this will be what goes on sale, the overall tire diameter is larger than an outback for example, and if they have the production version almost ready why would they tease us with something so radical so close to the release date.

The BRZ shown at the '11 TMS was the production version, the timeline on that isn't relavant. The '10 impreza concept - '12 production impreza is a more accurate comparison. We'll see a production "concept" next year and a MY2015 release.
This concept is to the production WRX what the Impreza, BRZ or XV Crosstrek concepts were to their production counterparts. We can expect the production vehicle for sale in about a year.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:04 PM   #1855
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Yes, in addition to roof, rear spoiler, rear diffuser and underneath the door.
WTF the roof??!!! No way! *searches... mind BLOWN*

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Old 03-27-2013, 12:05 PM   #1856
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I'll agree to disagree. The "A" in "SUBARU" on the brakes looks iffy to me, and if you zoom in on the shadow to the right of that tire, you'll see darker, perpendicular lines that should not be there.
Just curious, what about the "A" is iffy to you? Being covered by the spoke, it is hard for me to say anything.

The fact that the dark perpendicular line should not be there, doesn't really sway me one way or another as I'm not sure what it is. Could it be something in the floor? Seems if it was a real picture or computer generated that you would take the "flaw" out. Would you really add it in for a computer generated picture?

I just feel that picture looks the most realistic to me and looks like a photo to me. Maybe I am wrong. I don't have super secret NSA spy software to analyze the picture.

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We'll see a production "concept" next year and a MY2015 release.
I think that is what we have been told all along. MY2015 with release in 2014.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:05 PM   #1857
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They're not photos and, IMHO, they're fake. One example, look at how the rear emblem is "mounted" (click the bar at the top of the pic to see the full image):

Also, check out the door "handles".
Did you see the Impreza concept? It didn't even have door handles. Doesn't mean it isn't real (edit: unless you just mean the photos arent real)
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:05 PM   #1858
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That's totally a render. Quite fake looking, actually. The shadows are some of the easiest parts of basic 101 rendering. The paint is the dead giveaway it's a render.
Yeah, no orange peel!
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:07 PM   #1859
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The paint is the dead giveaway it's a render.
I thought it was an Alcantra exterior.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:13 PM   #1860
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WTF the roof??!!! No way! *searches... mind BLOWN*

Not sure if serious?
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:14 PM   #1861
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These aren't photoshops. Nor are they pictures. They are renderings. Considering the time rendering takes, I'd doubt they're fake.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:18 PM   #1862
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Just curious, what about the "A" is iffy to you? Being covered by the spoke, it is hard for me to say anything.
Doesn't look right where it meets the edges of the spoke, like the "A" was erased but not cleanly.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:20 PM   #1863
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Did you see the Impreza concept? It didn't even have door handles. Doesn't mean it isn't real (edit: unless you just mean the photos arent real)
So why wouldn't the handles just be left off on this then? They'd either be left off or they'd be much more real, not just painted on little rectangles.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:21 PM   #1864
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Doesn't look right where it meets the edges of the spoke, like the "A" was erased but not cleanly.
I think you're seeing a reflection on the spoke, maybe of the "R."
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:22 PM   #1865
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These aren't photoshops. Nor are they pictures. They are renderings. Considering the time rendering takes, I'd doubt they're fake.
Maybe it's someone's class project... winter quarter did just end.

Lots of other fake renders out there that folks have put a lot of time into, right?
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:26 PM   #1866
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These aren't photoshops. Nor are they pictures. They are renderings. Considering the time rendering takes, I'd doubt they're fake.
According to Road and Track: "One thing we can tell you is that these aren't renders, even though they look that way. They are actual photos of the show car."

Unless R&T is completely talking out of their butts, they seem pretty certain that these images are the real deal. Obviously the images have gone through post-processing photoshopping and airbrushing, but that doesn't mean that the underlying image isn't the actual concept car.

What does that all mean? I guess we will find out....

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Old 03-27-2013, 12:27 PM   #1867
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I think you're seeing a reflection on the spoke, maybe of the "R."
I did consider that.

Looks fake to me, but we've got to wait just a bit longer to get any official news anyway, so...
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:29 PM   #1868
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Okay yes! THIS I can get behind! Unfortunately, people don't want wagons anymore.
I really like them as well but we're part of the minority I'm afraid. Just because you have to haul your kids around doesn't mean you should have to settle for a minivan
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I guess we will find out tomorrow if there is a car displayed...
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:40 PM   #1870
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I think that is what we have been told all along. MY2015 with release in 2014.
I wasn't disagreeing with you, I was disagreeing with The Duke. A release in 4 months (japan or not) would be a MY'14 car. I should have been more detailed in my prediction. I think we'll see a production "concept" in early '14, about a year from now, and then we can use the BRZ timeline, so a production run starting in late '14. If the design is so close to done that suppliers are already getting tooling worked up, why bother show us this concept?
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:46 PM   #1871
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While we all wait for one more day.. Here are some other unveilings going on live at the NY Auto Show:
http://www.thepassinglane.ca/2013/03...uto-show-.html
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:51 PM   #1872
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I wasn't disagreeing with you, I was disagreeing with The Duke. A release in 4 months (japan or not) would be a MY'14 car. I should have been more detailed in my prediction. I think we'll see a production "concept" in early '14, about a year from now, and then we can use the BRZ timeline, so a production run starting in late '14. If the design is so close to done that suppliers are already getting tooling worked up, why bother show us this concept?
The rest of the planet doesn't use the retarded 6-months ahead schedule naming convention we use. Everywhere else the year the car is available is the year the car was made. Why 'Merica has to be stupi/ I mean better I don't understand. I imagine it's the same reason we have the "bigger is better' mentality for everything, which is rarely the case anymore.

The car should (again, with the information we deem credible currently) hit US shores in calander spring '14 as a model year (US Spec) '15. You can bet Japan will get the car before then. When we see the "production concept" as we're now callnig it will most likely be at the Toyko auto show, and I wouldn't be surprised if orders were available for Japan then. They pulled that with the legacy DIT. The car was a surprise and orders were open the next day for delivery in like 2 months.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:51 PM   #1873
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Not sure if serious?
Sorry, I WAS being serious. I never noticed in all my hours of drooling at that concept that it had a carbon fiber roof. OR, more likely, I care so little for carbon fiber that I just forgot it was there. My least favorite parts are the carbon fiber bits, except for the wheel spoke designs in either the Legacy Concept or Impreza Concept. Those were nice. Body kit parts, though? Not so much.
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Sorry, I WAS being serious. I never noticed in all my hours of drooling at that concept that it had a carbon fiber roof. OR, more likely, I care so little for carbon fiber that I just forgot it was there. My least favorite parts are the carbon fiber bits, except for the wheel spoke designs in either the Legacy Concept or Impreza Concept. Those were nice. Body kit parts, though? Not so much.
Ok gotcha. Couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic or not.
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