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Old 04-10-2013, 02:34 PM   #126
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Please confirm for all of us that the Purolator 14459 filters are correct for our Imprezas. For some reason, Amazon says this filter is not compatible (but I've had problems with Amazon's compatibility database in the past, so it wouldn't surprise me that the 14459 is in fact the correct filter for us).

Also, I'm surprised that the Synthetic model isn't the most efficient. Where did you get that information?
To add to the confusion, Purolator's own web site (http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/) says they don't have a current model of oil filter that's compatible with our Imprezas. Their compatibility chart says "Not Available - Availability To Be Announced."

So this makes me continue to wonder about the 14459 filters' compatibility with our Imprezas.

I guess I can't blame Amazon for saying the 14459 isn't compatible, since that agrees with Purolator's own data.
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:45 PM   #127
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...and to think our cars came out in 2011. Here we are in 2013 and still no oil filter available
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:47 PM   #128
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You've obviously not seen the filter we're talking about or have done any research of your own. You're just spewing out nonsense based on what you saw a few years ago that "someone" else did the research on. If you've seen or read anything about these filters you'd know your statement is garbage!

I would pay money to see you use used toilet paper on your car! But like you said, it is your car and your money!
Fair enough. Perhaps that series of Fram is better than what they have sold in the past.

The reference I made was from a reputable Moto Guzzi tech 4 or 5 years ago. He took a UFI(Factory Guzzi filter), Fram, and two others that I can't recall right now. He cut them open, took pictures and put them out for all to see. I know this guy and he has also written a couple of books on Moto Guzzi. (Moto Guzzi Big Twins by Greg Field is one.) HE DOES KNOW WHAT HE TALKS ABOUT. In any case, the UFI was light years ahead in terms of construction. Also, the amount of filter media, (number of pleats and size of pleats), were far greater than the Fram. Well over twice the media when laid flat. The UFI was simply a much better filter.

I guess I would like to buy a couple filters and cut them open and see.

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Old 04-10-2013, 03:21 PM   #129
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Please confirm for all of us that the Purolator 14459 filters are correct for our Imprezas. For some reason, Amazon says this filter is not compatible (but I've had problems with Amazon's compatibility database in the past, so it wouldn't surprise me that the 14459 is in fact the correct filter for us).
Only Purolator or Subaru can make that call. I've run two PL14459 over a combined 10K+ miles with no issues.

On all my cars, I like running the largest filter with the most efficient media I can find, given the other specs are close. I haven't seen better efficiency numbers than 99.9%.

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Who's talking about the orange can? Why was it even brought up? And I would hardly call Fram's ultra line of filters "barely acceptable." If you actually read about them and did the research you'd find out that they are comparable to royal purple, Mobil 1, amsoil, and even purolator as far as quality and performance, yet cost less than all of those!
Let me rephrase then, I'll run nothing from the makers of the orange can. Even if they were free, I'd still pay $6 for the yellow can (or Bosch, or M1).
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Old 04-10-2013, 04:39 PM   #130
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Check out the $33.99 oil change special here:

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web..._content=ar0t1

It looks like it would include the Fram Ultra filter that looks good. What do you guys know/think of the Castrol Edge with Titanium oil?
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:44 PM   #131
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That's a decent price considering the Ultra filter at the auto parts store is probably $10+.

I changed the oil in my '02 Odyssey this past weekend and I used 5W20 Castrol Edge Titanium only because Walmart had a 5qt jug in the clearance section for $20. It's my first time using it so it's too early to make any kind of comparison.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:51 AM   #132
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You can certainly do what you like, but I would use used toilet paper before I put a Fram oil filter in any of my vehicles! A few years ago, someone cut open several filters that fit my bikes. The Fram was hands down the cheapest made filter of them all. If you spread out the filter media, it had the least, amongst other short cuts. Sometimes you do get what you pay for. But, it is your car and your money.

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Did someone say toilet paper oil filter, here's one, for real.
http://www.frantzoil.com/TOILETPAPER.html
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:24 AM   #133
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^^Really?!?! Well I'll be damn. There ya go Guzzi! Now you get your chance. $215 for the complete kit and you can get a 12 pack roll of Scotts much cheaper than their $2.50 per roll.
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:10 PM   #134
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I had 2 Fram oil filters split open during use on a previous car - pulled them out during an oil change and the filter material had completely torn, an inch long tear in each filter.

I don't care if they've gotten better, or if different models are better. For the same or similar price, i'll stick with Sub's Tokyo-Roki's. I'm in Canada and my dealership parts guy looked at me like I was a moron when I asked how long he'd have the Roki's on the shelf. The 3 parts guys behind the counter hadn't heard anything about the Honeywell filters.
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I had 2 Fram oil filters split open during use on a previous car - pulled them out during an oil change and the filter material had completely torn, an inch long tear in each filter.
That's Fram's cutting edge auto-bypass feature. At least your filter didn't split itself open on a running engine. Some aren't so lucky.
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Old 04-11-2013, 02:02 PM   #136
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That's Fram's cutting edge auto-bypass feature. At least your filter didn't split itself open on a running engine. Some aren't so lucky.
I find it hard to believe a filter actually burst...at over 300psi burst rating, if it did, there was something wrong with the engine, not the filter!
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:37 PM   #137
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^^Really?!?! Well I'll be damn. There ya go Guzzi! Now you get your chance. $215 for the complete kit and you can get a 12 pack roll of Scotts much cheaper than their $2.50 per roll.
Yeah, so put your money where your mouth is!!!!!
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:37 PM   #138
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That is a bypass filter. It's installed in addition to the spin-on filter. I'm running an Amsoil bypass filter on another car which is rated at 98.7% at 2 microns. Depending on the model, they add 1, 1.5 or 2 quarts to the sump capacity. I'm considering installing one on the Impreza.
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:13 PM   #139
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Wow, the Amsoil bypass filter is priced at $272, and that's not including the spin-on adapter which is probably another $56. Then you add on the cost of replacing the extra filter elements over the life of the car.

I don't think I could convince myself that this extra level of filtration is worth it. My Blackstone Used Oil Analysis came back with very positive comments. The engines in my cars are never the reason I have to get rid of the cars (instead, it's usually a transmission failure or extreme rust).

Other than your own peace of mind, do you really think this hundreds of dollars over the life of the car will buy you anything that you wouldn't have gotten anyway with normal, proper care of the car (that is to say, long engine life)?
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:30 PM   #140
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^^Really?!?! Well I'll be damn. There ya go Guzzi! Now you get your chance. $215 for the complete kit and you can get a 12 pack roll of Scotts much cheaper than their $2.50 per roll.
Yeah, I have known about this for some time. A buddy was thinking of buying into a setup like this for his bike. I told him I thought he was nuts.

Besides, everyone knows Charmin Ultra is better.

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Old 04-11-2013, 08:45 PM   #141
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The EaBP90 costs less than $40 and lasts for 60K+ miles. The rest of the hardware adds another $70.

It all depends on how long you want to keep the car and what level of wear is acceptable.

From that car, I'm expecting at least a 25 year service life, so $110 is not an outrageous expense.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:24 PM   #142
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The EaBP90 costs less than $40 and lasts for 60K+ miles. The rest of the hardware adds another $70.

It all depends on how long you want to keep the car and what level of wear is acceptable.

From that car, I'm expecting at least a 25 year service life, so $110 is not an outrageous expense.
Please provide the part numbers for the rest of the hardware. I'd like to read about the entire system that's compatible with our cars. Have you figured out exactly what's compatible with the Impreza?
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These are universal parts. Anything that generates oil pressure will work.

The recessed oil filter mount on our cars will probably make it difficult to use a sandwich adapter. I don't know if our engines have unused oil ports. If not, I would tap from the sender port.

I did use a restrictor on the feed line so the engine always has priority.

Here is the filter at a decent price: http://www.puredieselpower.com/catal...t-p-33854.html

This will work as the mount (don't use included fittings): http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRAM-PH3976A...52ba3e&vxp=mtr

Then you need a restrictor, fittings and teflon lines.

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Old 04-12-2013, 07:39 AM   #144
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These are universal parts. Anything that generates oil pressure will work.

The recessed oil filter mount on our cars will probably make it difficult to use a sandwich adapter. I don't know if our engines have unused oil ports. If not, I would tap from the sender port.

I did use a restrictor on the feed line so the engine always has priority.

Here is the filter at a decent price: http://www.puredieselpower.com/catal...t-p-33854.html

This will work as the mount (don't use included fittings): http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRAM-PH3976A...52ba3e&vxp=mtr

Then you need a restrictor, fittings and teflon lines.
Interesting. Let us know how that works for you if you install it, and please provide pics too if possible.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:59 PM   #145
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In other news napa has 0w20 on sale for 3.49 plus tax
napa oil is just rebranded valvoline,
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In other news napa has 0w20 on sale for 3.49 plus tax
napa oil is just rebranded valvoline,
So long as it has that Ashland logo somewhere on the back of the bottle........
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lol its like buying batteries at walmart gotta make sure its got the proper marking aka johnson control
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Old 05-05-2013, 03:09 PM   #148
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Here is the wix oil filter part number
57830
2012-2013 I.pre a sport

I've used wix filters on all my Subaru /cars and love them.

I still not sure what oil I am going to use.
Either m1 or castrol
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I still not sure what oil I am going to use.
Either m1 or castrol
Check out the Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20. It's available at Walmart, is a highly regarded oil, and if you go to the Pennzoil web site, you will find a $10 mail-in rebate if you buy 5 quarts.
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Check out the Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20. It's available at Walmart, is a highly regarded oil, and if you go to the Pennzoil web site, you will find a $10 mail-in rebate if you buy 5 quarts.
I have a hard time using a product from a company who's website tells you to use the wrong weight oil.

Then again, I've always been an anti-pennzoil guy. Always said I wouldn't use it in my lawn mower. But the more I read about their platinum synthetic, the more I'm starting to sway against my prior thoughts. Especially since I found out it's made by shell, same people who make Rotella and THAT is a great oil if you have a diesel.
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