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Old 01-19-2013, 08:26 PM   #101
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Just picked up the Rex today. I love the car to death, but I feel I paid too much. When all was said and done, I paid $29,800 OTD for a Premium 5-door with the homelink auto-dim rearview mirror, all weather floor mats, cargo tray, wheel locks, and one or two other things thrown in there. Honestly, I got lazy with the haggling. I was able to get them to give me more on my trade-in, but I should've kept haggling on the OTD price.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:44 PM   #102
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Wow some bro'ness going on in here. I just posted WHAT I can get. That DOESNT mean I will get 84 months.

My VR4 is way more modded and worth more than your cute car.
Don't make yourself sound like a 16 year old.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:23 PM   #103
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Hello, To Who Those That Maybe Buying A Wrx Limited With No Nav And Short Shift Add And Mirror Add. Im In The Car Business And Currently Holding The Dealer Invoice In My Hand.
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Option Package 1
Sto Short Throw Shifter
Auto Dimming Mirror
Cargo Tray
Standard Destination Charge

Total Msrp $30,703.00
Dealer Cost $ 28,769.oo

Thats Is An True Invoice Price With Options Listed
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:33 PM   #104
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Hello, To Who Those That Maybe Buying A Wrx Limited With No Nav And Short Shift Add And Mirror Add. Im In The Car Business And Currently Holding The Dealer Invoice In My Hand.
As Listed:

Option Package 1
Sto Short Throw Shifter
Auto Dimming Mirror
Cargo Tray
Standard Destination Charge

Total Msrp $30,703.00
Dealer Cost $ 28,769.oo

Thats Is An True Invoice Price With Options Listed
I guess I got a better offer.

I got the option package 14

GPS touch-screen navigation system
Dim morrow/comp w/home link
Rear cup holder - black
Sti short throw shift 5m/t
Destination charge

Total suggested retail price $30,568.00

Ended up getting 1,000 off
Total ended up being $29,568.00
Not including other fees
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:01 PM   #105
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$26,752... From what I've heard... I got a smoking deal... it also helped that I purchased it in December... although the salesman did offer the exact same deal to my buddy in January... but it goes to show you... dealerships have plenty of wiggle room.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:49 PM   #106
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$26,752... From what I've heard... I got a smoking deal... it also helped that I purchased it in December... although the salesman did offer the exact same deal to my buddy in January... but it goes to show you... dealerships have plenty of wiggle room.
Evanston Subaru?
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:30 AM   #107
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2013 WRB WRX Sedan Premium with 0 options. 30K out the door, 5 week wait
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:23 AM   #108
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$26,752... From what I've heard... I got a smoking deal... it also helped that I purchased it in December... although the salesman did offer the exact same deal to my buddy in January... but it goes to show you... dealerships have plenty of wiggle room.
Woah, amazing price. When I'm done paying off my 13 in hopefully 2.5 years, I'll probably get another car and I am definitely going to haggle the right way next time.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:30 AM   #109
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$26,752... From what I've heard... I got a smoking deal... it also helped that I purchased it in December... although the salesman did offer the exact same deal to my buddy in January... but it goes to show you... dealerships have plenty of wiggle room.
Has to be after trade!?!?!?!?
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:04 AM   #110
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Has to be after trade!?!?!?!?
That's probably not an OTD price. That price is still way below invoice for a Prem. with nav. I paid $27,800 for a Prem. with Auto-dimming Homelink rearview mirror, wheel locks, all weather floor mats, and a Cargo Tray and that was paying invoice if not a hair over.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:03 AM   #111
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You cant trust the way its written on the worksheets or even the BOS. The dealers will write the numbers to get it to add up right, not necessarily to make it explicitly clear as to what youre paying OTD.

For example...if the dealer says the price is 31k OTD...and you look at the sheet and don't see it, they'll say oh that's because you're trading. It's this price plus this price plus this price. Be careful, because you'll add it all up and it'll be more than the 31k. Be VERY specific and ask for everything in writing beforehand. Most dealers are good to deal with--but there are a few sleezy ones that will try and pull the wool over your eyes even during a time when everything is on the Internet.

At the same time, I wouldn't go in assuming the dealer is "trying to get you" unless they've done something to indicate as such.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:56 PM   #112
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That's probably not an OTD price. That price is still way below invoice for a Prem. with nav. I paid $27,800 for a Prem. with Auto-dimming Homelink rearview mirror, wheel locks, all weather floor mats, and a Cargo Tray and that was paying invoice if not a hair over.
I just assumed it wasn't an OTD price...can't be. But still that's crazy cheap even before taxes and fees. Curious to know if it's correct.
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:53 PM   #113
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I just assumed it wasn't an OTD price...can't be. But still that's crazy cheap even before taxes and fees. Curious to know if it's correct.
Hey, anything's possible. I've seen people post what they paid for WRX Limited 5-Doors with more options than I got for right around what I paid OTD on my Premium with only a few options and I've seen people pay less OTD on their Limited's than what I paid for my Premium. There's a lot of factors that come into play though. How big is the dealer? What's their volume like? Did you as the individual price out your desired car at different dealers? Did you go through the dealership or their internet sales department? Did you play the salesmen/women against one another? What time of year did you buy the car? There's so many factors and you really need to be able to utilize everything you can.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:30 PM   #114
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As said above there are many defining factors going into the final price of the vehicle. Heck my 2013 STi limited with every option I've ever dreamed I got for such a retarded price I was told not to share it.

It just goes down to how well you haggle, how well you know people, and how well you treat your dealer.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:36 PM   #115
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Hey, anything's possible. I've seen people post what they paid for WRX Limited 5-Doors with more options than I got for right around what I paid OTD on my Premium with only a few options and I've seen people pay less OTD on their Limited's than what I paid for my Premium. There's a lot of factors that come into play though. How big is the dealer? What's their volume like? Did you as the individual price out your desired car at different dealers? Did you go through the dealership or their internet sales department? Did you play the salesmen/women against one another? What time of year did you buy the car? There's so many factors and you really need to be able to utilize everything you can.
I hope is is true to be honest...may be a decent bargaining chip when im ready.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:38 PM   #116
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$23,700
OTD: $25,800
Base hatch, no options
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:44 PM   #117
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I hope is is true to be honest...may be a decent bargaining chip when im ready.
Use what you can and don't be overwhelmed. I was lazy as hell which is why I didn't really haggle very much. Also, are you going to have a trade-in, private sale, or neither? The reason I ask is that if you live in a state that grants a tax credit for a trade-in, consider which option will actually net you more money. You only pay taxes on the difference after a trade-in versus paying taxes on the price of the car even with a cash downpayment. I paid taxes on $20,300 instead of $27,800 due to my trade-in. Even though I probably still could've gotten more in the end for my car through a private sale, I still saved about $450 more due to the tax credit. Remember, utilize those emails. If I could do it all over again, I would've spent about a half hour in a dealership and done all the correspondence through email.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:51 PM   #118
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thats a really good deal based on what ive read!
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:52 PM   #119
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Use what you can and don't be overwhelmed. I was lazy as hell which is why I didn't really haggle very much. Also, are you going to have a trade-in, private sale, or neither? The reason I ask is that if you live in a state that grants a tax credit for a trade-in, consider which option will actually net you more money. You only pay taxes on the difference after a trade-in versus paying taxes on the price of the car even with a cash downpayment. I paid taxes on $20,300 instead of $27,800 due to my trade-in. Even though I probably still could've gotten more in the end for my car through a private sale, I still saved about $450 more due to the tax credit. Remember, utilize those emails. If I could do it all over again, I would've spent about a half hour in a dealership and done all the correspondence through email.

what, honestly, should i be aiming for as far as price on a premium sedan with no port installed options?
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:00 PM   #120
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what, honestly, should i be aiming for as far as price on a premium sedan with no port installed options?
If your'e buying a Premium with no options, I don't see why $27,000 can't be done. Hell, you could probably get less than that if you play your cards right. Check out Edmunds True Market Value to get an idea of what invoice pricing is on one without any options.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:07 PM   #121
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If your'e buying a Premium with no options, I don't see why $27,000 can't be done. Hell, you could probably get less than that if you play your cards right. Check out Edmunds True Market Value to get an idea of what invoice pricing is on one without any options.
invoice with delivery is about 27800...so sub 27000 is a good place to start?
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:20 PM   #122
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You just got your first experience with some major d-bags that lurk around on this site quite regularly. Let me give you some real advice, not like the wanna be finacial gurus that appear to have hijacked your thread:

1. You should pay somewhere between $27-30K
2. Interest rate is what it is (many variables)
3. Whether you pay 1/2 down or whatever, you will be upside down on
the car FOREVER. Cars are not investments in the money making
sense, unless you are dealing with rare exotics, or desireable classics.
These cars are neither (yet anyway). If you are concerned with resale value and all that, buy a Camry or Accord
4. These are enthusiasts cars, meaning there are better values out there
in every sense of the term. You have to love these cars or you will
feel robbed after the first day of ownership. If you fall in love with
the car $100,000 is not too much to spend on mods, etc. (ask the
guys with old bugeyes about this one. Crazy money with NO RETURNS).
5. It will be your car, so buy it for you and no one else. Read this one like the gospels.
6. Make sure to read up on here real good with regards to all the potential issues these cars can have.
I did, but I am in friggin' love, so FTW!
7. If the bug bites you, you will wonder why it took so long to find your true car-love!
If this happens revisit #4. Enjoy your 2013 you lucky basterd!


To all the wanna be Dave Ramseys out there: Suck it!

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Old 01-21-2013, 04:44 PM   #123
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You just got your first experience with some major d-bags that lurk around on this site quite regularly. Let me give you some real advice, not like the wanna be finacial gurus that appear to have hijacked your thread:

1. You should pay somewhere between $27-30K
2. Interest rate is what it is (many variables)
3. Whether you pay 1/2 down or whatever, you will be upside down on
the car FOREVER. Cars are not investments in the money making
sense, unless you are dealing with rare exotics, or desireable classics.
These cars are neither (yet anyway). If you are concerned with resale value and all that, buy a Camry or Accord
4. These are enthusiasts cars, meaning there are better values out there
in every sense of the term. You have to love these cars or you will
feel robbed after the first day of ownership. If you fall in love with
the car $100,000 is not too much to spend on mods, etc. (ask the
guys with old bugeyes about this one. Crazy money with NO RETURNS).
5. It will be your car, so buy it for you and no one else. Read this one like the gospels.
6. Make sure to read up on here real good with regards to all the potential issues these cars can have.
I did, but I am in friggin' love, so FTW!
7. If the bug bites you, you will wonder why it took so long to find your true car-love!
If this happens revisit #4. Enjoy your 2013 you lucky basterd!


To all the wanna be Dave Ramseys out there: Suck it!

Hoon Goon - A TRUE ADDICT (copy/paste from Wordpad sucks BTW)
Congratulations, now you're streering him in the complete opposite direction of what he was asking! All he was asking was about the price of the car, there's NO need to be a dick.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:32 PM   #124
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You just got your first experience with some major d-bags that lurk around on this site quite regularly.
I agree there are quite a few of them too.

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Let me give you some real advice, not like the wanna be finacial gurus that appear to have hijacked your thread:
That's a little presumptuous. Some of those guru's may have a finance degree. That and you're in incorrect in some of your bullets.

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[Font color=red]Whether you pay 1/2 down or whatever, you will be upside down on the car FOREVER.[/font color]
Absolutely incorrect. You are considered upside down when the amount you owe on the loan exceeds the present market value. If you pay the car cash you'll never be upside down and if you pay half you'll likely never be either as long as you're not financing for 10 years.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:00 PM   #125
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I know this is a few days old but still worth answering.

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Everyone thats bashing me. You guys sound pretty bush league to me. I have a credit score of 763 and almost debt free from school loans. I graduated college with my Bachelors of Science in Business Management and married to a wonderful girl that graduated also from ASU with her Biology major.
You didn't graduate with a Masters in Computer Science from MIT, did ya? Maybe Caltech then? CMU? Or perhaps Harvard Law? No? Then a Business Management degree from ASU is hardly anything to be proud of. It's a relatively easy major from an average university. Over here your degree would be worth all of $40K/year because most of the decent-paying business management positions require a Masters Degree. Yup, the MIT people (to whom I sadly do not belong) are still laughing.

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I am 28 years old and we bought our first house last year.
Also, not something to be proud of. You want a counterexample? Here you go: I bought my first apartment when I was 25. It was one of the absolutely dumbest things I ever did, listening to a relative instead of a friend who rented all these years. I was very proud of it too but then it plummeted in value and I'm stuck with this awful place which is worth way less than what I paid just a few years back. (Welcome Boston-area real estate). Of course I'm far from being the only one who got severely burned on real estate as lots of people much smarter than you and me put together lost tons of money. But my buddy is doing just fine and was able to move around many times while I was stuck. And he didn't lose all that money. So when you proudly tell me that you "own your house at 28" it just makes me chuckle a bit. Unless of course you bought a mansion in Beverly Hills. Then it's a whole 'nother ball game.

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I wonder how many people here own a STi or WRX and still rent. Talk about poor financial decisions.
Would've paid for my car with cash but dealer begged me to finance a little so they can make a few $$$. I never had a car loan before so I figured wth and financed $10K. My payments were at least 2x what they asked for so I'll be done shortly.

But will I be renting once I sell my place? You bet your ASU-graduating butt I will. And I won't be buying for a looooong time. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. And to put people down because they're either smarter or less fortunate than you are is a pretty silly thing to do, don't you agree?

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