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Old 07-13-2015, 10:17 AM   #1
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Question my Honda, shuts off when slowing to idle

So I have an '04 Honda accord w/271,000 miles, 5sp manual. Last night, it was drove pretty hard for a bit, then when I approached a traffic light, as soon as the car slowed to idle, it shut off. I originally thought I had stalled it out. So I started it up, then every time I came to a halt, it would shut off again.

I knew it was about 1.5 quarts low on oil (shouldn't have anything to do with it, or should it?), so I picked up 2 quarts at store, and filled it.

Google told me to try a fuel system cleaner, so I bought one of these
Amazon.com: STP 78568 Complete Fuel System Cleaner - 5.25 oz.: AutomotiveAmazon.com: STP 78568 Complete Fuel System Cleaner - 5.25 oz.: Automotive

Hasn't stalled out since

Google said I may have bad gas, and I had filled up earlier in the day at Wawa. Never had problems with their gas before, but I guess there's always a first time.

Is there anything I should do, or have a mechanic look at to make sure this problem doesn't appear again?

FWIW, I've never had the "fuel injector service" at any shop, thinking its a high profit bull**** service. Maybe it's time?

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Old 07-13-2015, 10:18 AM   #2
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Honda Civic automatic?
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:19 AM   #3
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271k.

Fuel system starting to let you down.

Hardly surprising.

Try the cleaner, beyond that take it to a shop.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:19 AM   #4
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So I have an '04 Honda accord w/271,000 miles, 5sp manual. Last night, it was drove pretty hard for a bit, then when I approached a traffic light, as soon as the car slowed to idle, it shut off. I originally thought I had stalled it out. So I started it up, then every time I came to a halt, it would shut off again.

I knew it was about 1.5 quarts low on oil (shouldn't have anything to do with it, or should it?), so I picked up 2 quarts at store, and filled it.

Google told me to try a fuel system cleaner, so I bought one of these
Amazon.com: STP 78568 Complete Fuel System Cleaner - 5.25 oz.: Automotive

Hasn't stalled out since

Google said I may have bad gas, and I had filled up earlier in the day at Wawa. Never had problems with their gas before, but I guess there's always a first time.

Is there anything I should do, or have a mechanic look at to make sure this problem doesn't appear again?

FWIW, I've never had the "fuel injector service" at any shop, thinking its a high profit bull**** service. Maybe it's time?

thank
wow. You should probably take it to a mechanic.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:20 AM   #5
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yeah, 271k miles... I'm sure the fuel lines are as clogged as JewPac's arteries.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:24 AM   #6
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yeah, 271k miles... I'm sure the fuel lines are as clogged as JewPac's arteries.
He's still alive?! Wonders never cease.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:29 AM   #7
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Before I went to a mechanic I would clean the Idle Air Controller, super easy.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:31 AM   #8
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Before I went to a mechanic I would clean the Idle Air Controller, super easy.
I came here to post this.

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Old 07-13-2015, 10:34 AM   #9
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Your first mistake is driving a Honda.

Your second mistake is driving a high mileage Honda.

Your third mistake is driving your high mileage Honda hard and not putting oil in it.

Your fourth mistake of putting cheap Wawa gas in it.

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Old 07-13-2015, 10:34 AM   #10
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Check the 4WS fluid?
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:38 AM   #11
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Before I went to a mechanic I would clean the Idle Air Controller, super easy.
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I came here to post this.

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This + check your PCV stuff / vacuum lines.

If you're buying injection clearer, go with JB.

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Old 07-13-2015, 10:40 AM   #12
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My Element did that too, finally it threw a misfire code. Try adjusting the valves, all mine were too tight.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:42 AM   #13
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My Element did that too, finally it threw a misfire code. Try adjusting the valves, all mine were too tight.
He's nervous about installing injector cleaning fluid. I don't see him adjusting valves.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:43 AM   #14
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Before I went to a mechanic I would clean the Idle Air Controller, super easy.
many thank.. will look into this solution, especially if its super easy.

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Your first mistake is driving a Honda.

Your second mistake is driving a high mileage Honda.

Your third mistake is driving your high mileage Honda hard and not putting oil in it.

Your fourth mistake of putting cheap Wawa gas in it.

/end thread
1. What brand is better? lasts longer? Subaru?
2. Had it for 8 years, and put 90% of the miles on it...
3. You're right, its probably due for an oil change
4. Its been running Wawa strong since day of purchase

/most reliable car I've ever owned
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:45 AM   #15
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It's safe to ignore blubaru.

'05 and earlier Accord, first video on Google search:

I highly recommend finding that gasket for the IACV before hand as yours is likely to have expanded. I also recommend a straight gasoline soak - some petroleum based cleaners may work well, but a gasoline soak is what got my WRX's valve clean after two attempts at cleaning it.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:46 AM   #16
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blubaru is talking nonsense.

Other than the oil thing. That's true. Keep oil in your engine.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:48 AM   #17
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He's nervous about installing injector cleaning fluid. I don't see him adjusting valves.
Correct, plunk10 don't mechanically inclined

In my first car, I used Slick 50 fuel treatment, in efforts to gain moar powahh!!1!... and it blew out the O2 sensor in a single tank of gas. I'm not scared with this car though, the cat converter has been toast for the last year methinks


2nd question. If I already have a CEL code, will the car store more than one code? I probably ought to drop by autozone, and have them hookup the OBD2 scanner to see if another code now exists..

I really need to just give it up, and buy another car, really
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:49 AM   #18
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Your first mistake is driving a Honda.

Your second mistake is driving a high mileage Honda.

Your third mistake is driving your high mileage Honda hard and not putting oil in it.

Your fourth mistake of putting cheap Wawa gas in it.

/end thread
Subaru owner trying to claim Hondas are unreliable.
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Yes, you will be able to scroll through multiple DTCs on the scanner device.
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blubaru is talking nonsense.

Other than the oil thing. That's true. Keep oil in your engine.
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2nd question. If I already have a CEL code, will the car store more than one code?
Oh, dear. You poor, poor dear. You really don't know how to car, do you?

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Old 07-13-2015, 10:55 AM   #22
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2nd question. If I already have a CEL code, will the car store more than one code?
LEVEL: KenM

No seriously, this isn't serious is it?


And +1 to all the IACV cleaning posts. If the valve is dirty your car will just run poorly at idle and randomly die. Get some Throttle body cleaner, should take some hand tools and be easy to remove, get all the carbon and junk off, reinstall. Should run totally smooth at idle afterwards. I just did this for a friend's 2005 Durango because his car kept dying. It was mega-dirty. (His engine computer was also shorted out, but the valve made it idle smoother anyways.)
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:57 AM   #23
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Correct, plunk10 don't mechanically inclined

In my first car, I used Slick 50 fuel treatment, in efforts to gain moar powahh!!1!... and it blew out the O2 sensor in a single tank of gas. I'm not scared with this car though, the cat converter has been toast for the last year methinks


2nd question. If I already have a CEL code, will the car store more than one code? I probably ought to drop by autozone, and have them hookup the OBD2 scanner to see if another code now exists..

I really need to just give it up, and buy another car, really
*grumble*

You can keep a high mileage car running, but you need to put in the basic work to do it.

You cannot drive around with a CEL. That is like... woman driving. You MUST pull your codes and somehow deal with them. Otherwise you have NO idea what is wrong.

Buy this.
Amazon.com: Panlong Bluetooth OBD2 OBDII Car Diagnostic Adapter Check Engine Light for Android - Compatible with Torque Pro: AutomotiveAmazon.com: Panlong Bluetooth OBD2 OBDII Car Diagnostic Adapter Check Engine Light for Android - Compatible with Torque Pro: Automotive

There is NO reason not to have a scan tool these days. They are SO CHEAP.
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:07 AM   #24
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2nd question. If I already have a CEL code, will the car store more than one code?
No it can only handle throwing one code at a time, so the ECU will probably stall other problems until it's fixed or gets worse.
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This happened to my Civic. Turn out it was the flutanary valve. Super easy fix.
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