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Old 01-15-2013, 08:42 PM   #1
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Default Subaru vs the world for most universal vehical

this thread is just for fun to compare some vehicles, and hear some opinions.
recently a bunch of my engineering friends and I have been trying to think of the most universal vehicle that can do the most things well.

something that is fast on road and dirt, that can tackle sand and snow, can even handle some deep water and scale a rocky terrain. but also can be comfortable maybe even a bit luxurious, and your fit tool, multch, and kids in.

(what we are really getting at is what would win a race that had all these aspects) so focus a little more on something that can do it all then do most of them really fast. (if your really fast on a road and dirt but cant go over some rocks then you wouldn't finish the race)

we are assuming that we can modify the engine to be quite a bit more powerful then stock and upgrade the suspension (adjustable air for extra clearance) and that we have a few hundred thousand to work with if needed.

we came up with as contenders
Cayenne, bmw X6 or x5, Range Rover's, Subaru's, VW Touareg.

what you'd you pick!!! how deep of water and big of rocks can an STI handle because I see it doing best in a snow/sand/road/dirt course.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:47 PM   #2
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:48 PM   #3
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:55 PM   #4
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:09 AM   #5
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Sounds like a Dakar truck to me.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:30 AM   #6
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:34 AM   #7
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Top Gear regularly uses Toyota Tacomas and Tundras that just won't die. Especially their polar episode .
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You missed the fast on road part.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:55 AM   #10
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For a true universal vehicle, you'd need to consider that a good portion of the earth doesn't have the roads we have. I'd go with a Jeep Wrangler limited (slightly longer). It's going to go everywhere, is relatively simple, can become a convertible if you want to be in the open, can get through snow and sand with more clearance than most anything besides an H1 and can be had with ac and snorkles.

Take an STi into a stream and hit one rock that's 10" in diameter and you're sunk.

If you want to limit it to just the street, I'd say to get a 92 Honda VX hatch with a B18 VTEC swap and LSD. It'll outrun a good portion of vehicles on the road, has room for a cross country jaunt, is old enough that you'd not feel bad bunji cording stuff on the roof and if you need a part anywhere in the world, wait till nightfall and simply steal another Honda. The ignition cylinder takes all of 1 minute to swap if you're nice and unscrew the panel under the steering column rather than yank it off. Insert your own cylinder, screw on the panel and off you go with a key and everything.
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This just has alil bit of everything
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:51 PM   #13
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It would be perfect....if it wasn't 2wd.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:24 PM   #14
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wonder what the rally fighter would take to make it AWD, the lambo is a cool find also.
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You missed the fast on road part.
what´s your speed limit, 55 mph? The Unimog can handle that.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:35 PM   #16
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By that logic, anything on the road is fast.
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By that logic, anything on the road is fast.
for americans....it is
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In the real world, it's a Toyota Hilux (or maybe a Landcruiser).
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I believe the Toyota Hilux, the Lamborghini LM002, and a range rover with work will probably off road similarly but which will go around a road track fastest.
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I'll still take my 5-spd OXT...that I have modded juuuuust and bit here and there.

I still wish I had the diesel version, though.
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...but which will go around a road track fastest.
I'm thinking the Hilux takes them out at turn 1 then cruises to an uncontested win.

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I'm thinking the Hilux takes them out at turn 1 then cruises to an uncontested win.

Hilux seams like a great contester, I wish i could find a road track time for it somewhere. I definitely didn't say anything against destroying competition... good enough argument for me.
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I don't know how many hilux's have been taken around a track. The common motors in them are not known for being rev happy. My 85 with the 22r would top out at 80mph...with a tail wind....off a cliff...
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I don't know how many hilux's have been taken around a track. The common motors in them are not known for being rev happy. My 85 with the 22r would top out at 80mph...with a tail wind....off a cliff...
skydiving was not initially part of the race but I will make note that the hilux would not to to well ... even with a tail wind.

(doing modifications are completely allowed and a newer vehicle would likely be used and have more power then stock)
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