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Old 01-19-2013, 07:20 AM   #1
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I started one a couple years ago. Now, starting one for this year. HB 557 was filed on 1/16. It calls for a single license plate. Now, we'll wait for the letdown, as it doesn't advance into committee. I'm going to see if my representative (also a Republican) will sign on to this house bill.
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83R2098 NAJ-D

By: Gonzales H.B. No. 557



A BILL TO BE ENTITLED

AN ACT
relating to the number of license plates to be issued for and
displayed on certain motor vehicles.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Subchapter A, Chapter 504, Transportation Code,
is amended by adding Section 504.011 to read as follows:
Sec. 504.011. ISSUANCE AND DISPLAY OF LICENSE PLATE FOR
PASSENGER CAR OR LIGHT TRUCK. (a) Notwithstanding anything in this
code to the contrary, the department shall issue only one license
plate for attachment at the rear of a passenger car or light truck
for which the plate is issued.
(b) Notwithstanding anything in this code to the contrary, a
person is entitled to operate on a public highway a passenger car or
light truck that displays only one license plate if the plate is
attached at the rear of the vehicle. A person may operate on a
public highway a passenger car or light truck that displays two
license plates if both plates were assigned by the department for
the registration period as a set of plates.
(c) In any provision of this code that relates to the
issuance or display of "license plates," "plates," or a "set of
plates" for a passenger car or light truck, the term means only one
license plate.

SECTION 2. Section 504.943, Transportation Code, is amended
by amending Subsection (b) and adding Subsection (e) to read as
follows:
(b) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a
public highway during a registration period a passenger car, light
truck,
road tractor, motorcycle, trailer, or semitrailer that does
not display a license plate that:
(1) has been assigned by the department for the
period; and
(2) complies with department rules regarding the
placement of license plates.
(e) In this section, "light truck" and "passenger car" have
the meanings assigned by Section 541.201.

SECTION 3. The change in law made by this Act regarding the
issuance of license plates by the Texas Department of Motor
Vehicles applies only to the issuance of license plates by the
department for a registration period beginning on or after the
effective date of this Act. For a registration period that begins
before the effective date of this Act, the department shall issue
license plates as required by the law in effect immediately before
the effective date of this Act, and the former law is continued in
effect for that purpose.
SECTION 4. This Act takes effect September 1, 2013.
Outside of plates, another rep. has filed a bill to allow liquor sales on Sunday (at liquor stores). Death to blue laws! Long live the free market!
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83R3044 MCK-D

By: Thompson of Harris H.B. No. 421



A BILL TO BE ENTITLED

AN ACT
relating to the hours of sale for liquor.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Section 105.01, Alcoholic Beverage Code, is
amended to read as follows:
Sec. 105.01. HOURS OF SALE: LIQUOR. [(a)] Except as
provided in Sections 105.02, 105.03, 105.04, and 105.08, no person
may sell, offer for sale, or deliver any liquor:
(1) on New Year's Day, Thanksgiving Day, or Christmas
Day;
(2) before noon or after 10 p.m. on Sunday; or
(3) before 9 [10] a.m. or after 10 [9] p.m. on any
other day.
[(b) When Christmas Day or New Year's Day falls on a Sunday,
Subsection (a) of this section applies to the following Monday.
]
SECTION 2. Section 105.02, Alcoholic Beverage Code, is
amended to read as follows:
Sec. 105.02. HOURS OF SALE: WHOLESALERS AND LOCAL
DISTRIBUTORS TO RETAILERS. (a) A holder of a wholesaler's permit
may sell, offer for sale, or deliver liquor to a retailer anytime
except [Sunday and] Christmas Day.
(b) A local distributor's permittee may sell, offer for
sale, or deliver liquor to a retailer between 5 a.m. and 9 p.m. on
any day except:
(1) [Sunday;
[(2)] Christmas Day; or
(2) [(3)] a day on which a package store permittee is
prohibited from selling liquor.
SECTION 3. This Act takes effect September 1, 2013.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:30 PM   #2
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So how do we show support for the license plate bill?
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:37 PM   #3
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It will never pass. However...the changes to the bill most recently were worded incorrectly...and as such they can't even ticket you right now for not having a front license plate.
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It will never pass. However...the changes to the bill most recently were worded incorrectly...and as such they can't even ticket you right now for not having a front license plate.
How would be the best way to tell a cop that...
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Both of these get placed on the floor every session and never move. Don't do searches cause you're a noon, do searches cause every year there's a thread.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:11 AM   #6
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How would be the best way to tell a cop that...
There was a news story about it not too long ago...and I think I may have downloaded the statues specific to it. I have a plate on my car now in front bc the dealer had already drilled...but my wife never had had hers and gets no issues.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:27 AM   #7
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So how do we show support for the license plate bill?
Contact your state representative and state senator.

Sadly, the other responses on here are correct. A bill is always filed, yet nothing happens. If there was a groundswell of support from all facets of car enthusiasts, car manufacturers, and other auto related groups, I bet something would happen.

I know the only group against this bill is law enforcement. Their claim is that the front license plate helps in solving crimes. I call BS on that. They want the front plate in order to make it easier to use laser to tag you and ticket you for them to continue to raise revenue. Plus, it also gives them another reason (if you don't have a front plate) to pull you over and check to see if they can get anything else out of you - any outstanding warrants is one example.

Either way, I have sent an e-mail to my state senator and state representative to let them know of my support for this bill. My state representative (through his election website) calls himself a "conservative Republican." In my e-mail I made sure to highlight two facets of conservatism to him. First, this bill should save drivers and the state money. How? Keeping current registration fees stable, and cutting manufacturing/supply costs should help the state raise even more $$. In turn, that $ could go into the roads/bridges/infrastructure (there's talk about raising the registration fee (read: tax) to $100/year ). Second, this shrinks government. Less laws = conservative government (at least that's what I have been lead to believe).
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I'm way for both bills. The blue laws are silly and the front plate is even sillier.
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Heh. **** front plates. Not drilling holes in a bumper because the state thinks they need me to.

Besides, I like protecting my plate from the elements. And it likes to see the world from the front windshield.
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Besides, I like protecting my plate from the elements. And it likes to see the world from the front windshield.

Mine sees nothing from inside my trunk.. Lol
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I don't have one on my STi and everytime I get pulled over by a State Trooper I tell them I am on my way to the dealer to buy a new license plate bracket bc mine is broke....

Someone once told me it is better to ask for forgivness than permission!
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Mine sees nothing from inside my trunk.. Lol
Now that's rude. How would you like it if you were locked up inside a dull, dark trunk all the time?
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Now that's rude. How would you like it if you were locked up inside a dull, dark trunk all the time?
I never really thought about its feelings until now. I may find a brighter home for it.
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I know the only group against this bill is law enforcement. Their claim is that the front license plate helps in solving crimes.
I can guarantee that myplates.com is added to the list of being very much against this bill ever getting passed. they'd have to reduce their price since they'd only send you 1 plate instead of 2.

then again, maybe they are for it, and just wouldn't change their prices.
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Heh. **** front plates. Not drilling holes in a bumper because the state thinks they need me to.

Besides, I like protecting my plate from the elements. And it likes to see the world from the front windshield.
Done get in an accident. Those plates are known to cut people.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:39 PM   #16
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I guess these legislators don't speak to each other. Another state rep. has filed HB 657 (yes, 657) with the exact same wording as HB 557 to make Texas a one plate state. And the legislator who filed HB 657, also filed a bill (HB 700) that would allow open carry (of firearms) in Texas.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:55 PM   #17
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Oh, by the way.. there are two bills: one in the senate, one in the house that will ban texting while driving. HB 63 and SB 28. I approve of those bills.
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I can guarantee that myplates.com is added to the list of being very much against this bill ever getting passed. they'd have to reduce their price since they'd only send you 1 plate instead of 2.

then again, maybe they are for it, and just wouldn't change their prices.
They wouldn't change their price. It costs how much to manufacture a single plate? 25 cents? $1? This would only help their profits. They would offer a second plate for sale for the front for an additional $25 or whatever, so you could showoff.
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Here is an interesting bill that has been proposed. Do any of you have a license plate flipper? Something that controls how you display your plate (front or rear doesn't matter) would be illegal if this passes.
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By: Zedler H.B. No. 2346



A BILL TO BE ENTITLED

AN ACT
relating to the use, sale, purchase, or possession of a license plate flipper device; creating an offense.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Subchapter L, Chapter 504, Transportation Code,
is amended by adding Section 504.946 to read as follows:
Sec. 504.946. LICENSE PLATE FLIPPER DEVICE; OFFENSE. (a) In
this section "license plate [Next Hit] flipper device" means a mechanical
device designed to be installed on a motor vehicle and:
(1) switch between two or more license plates for the
purpose of allowing a motor vehicle operator to change the license
plate displayed on the operator's vehicle; or
(2) hide a license plate from view by flipping the
license plate so that the license plate number is not visible.
(b) A person commits an offense if the person uses, sells,
offers for sale, purchases, or possesses for use or sale a license
plate flipper device.
(c) The possession of a license plate flipper device creates
the presumption that the person possessed the device for use or
sale.
(d) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.
SECTION 2. This Act takes effect immediately if it receives
a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each house, as
provided by Section 39, Article III, Texas Constitution. If this
Act does not receive the vote necessary for immediate effect, this
Act takes effect September 1, 2013.
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First, this bill should save drivers and the state money. How? Keeping current registration fees stable, and cutting manufacturing/supply costs should help the state raise even more $$.
You do realize that these manufacturing/supply costs are our Correctional Facilities, correct?
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You do realize that these manufacturing/supply costs are our Correctional Facilities, correct?
troof, from link below:

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Why has it taken more than a year for the new plate to come out?
Not only is the plate design new, but we are now using a digital system to manufacture the Lone Star Texas general-issue license plate. Switching to digital general-issue plates required the prison factory at the Wynne Correctional Unit in Huntsville to retool its processes and install new equipment. TxDMV contracts with the Texas Department of Criminal Justice to manufacture license plates.
I think people should also reference what the state references, and ask them to (further) put their money where there mouth is...

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Will the new general-issue plate still have stamped letters and numbers?
No, and that’s a good thing. The stamped (or raised) license plate numbers required a lot more energy and environmentally harmful chemicals. The digital process eliminates using 484 gallons of paint thinners and 396 gallons of petroleum-based ink annually, and the energy needed to power huge ovens that dried the plate ink. Not only is the new general-issue plate more environmentally friendly, but the flat numbers and letters make it much easier to clean.
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What if I like the new plate better than the one I have now. Can I buy it?
Texas drivers can replace their old plates by visiting their local county office and paying an additional fee. However, we ask Texans not to run out to purchase the new general-issue plates. While our aluminum license plates are recyclable, we encourage Texans to be environmental stewards and not waste the good plates they currently have on their vehicles.
In two places they reference being good stewards and environmentally conscious. Well, halving the materials invested in issuing license plates would really push forward the green initiative that the Texas DMV seems to advocate...
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You do realize that these manufacturing/supply costs are our Correctional Facilities, correct?
So, where does the state procure the metal from? The state has to buy the metal from somewhere. I'm sure they buy it in bulk quantity. Ink needs to be bought for the machines. The machines and labor are the only constant. If we can halve the costs for the metal and ink, the state can save $$$.
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Good news and bad news. The bad news: Tomorrow is the last day to file most bills, and there is no companion bill in the senate for HB657 (one plate requirement). The good news: HB657 made it to a committee hearing. It has been a long time since a one plate requirement went to a committee hearing. Anyone live in Austin (or can make it to Austin) that can go to the committee hearing on Tuesday, March 12 at 8am? I would love to go! But, I have a dentist's appointment in the afternoon. I probably wouldn't be able to make it back in time.

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NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING

COMMITTEE: Transportation

TIME & DATE: 8:00 AM, Tuesday, March 12, 2013

PLACE: E2.012
CHAIR: Rep. Larry Phillips

The committee will meet to consider pending business and:

HB 79 Simpson
Relating to the designation of a segment of U.S. Highway 80 as the Sergeant Travis E. Watkins Memorial Highway.

HB 377 Burnam
Relating to the designation of a portion of Interstate Highway 35W as the Cesar Chavez Memorial Freeway.

HB 442 Muñoz, Jr. | et al.
Relating to the designation of a portion of U.S. Highway 83 as the Trooper Eduardo Chavez Memorial Highway.

HB 657 Lavender | et al.
Relating to the number of license plates to be issued for and displayed on motor vehicles.


HB 1097 Sheets
Relating to the definition of a construction or maintenance work zone on a highway or street.

HB 1134 Darby
Relating to performance and payment security for certain comprehensive development agreements.

HB 1210 Craddick
Relating to the designation of a portion of State Highway 176 in Martin County as the Mark Owen Memorial Overpass.

HB 1238 Price
Relating to the designation of a portion of U.S. Highway 287 in Sherman and Dallam Counties as the Trooper Bobby Steve Booth Memorial Highway.

HB 1274 Crownover
Relating to the authority of certain transportation authorities to create a local government corporation.

HB 1295 Fletcher
Relating to the release of a motor vehicle accident report; authorizing a fee.

HB 1347 González, Mary
Relating to the use of El Paso Mission Valley specialty license plate fees for the preservation and rehabilitation of the Socorro, San Elizario, and Ysleta Missions.

NOTICE OF ASSISTANCE AT PUBLIC MEETINGS

Persons with disabilities who plan to attend this meeting and who may need assistance, such as a sign language interpreter, are requested to contact Stacey Nicchio at (512) 463-0850, 72 hours prior to the meeting so that appropriate arrangements can be made.

To find information about electronic witness registration for a public hearing and to create a profile to be used when registering as a witness, please visit www.house.state.tx.us/resources/. Registration must be performed the day of the meeting and within the Capitol Complex.
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with all the money saving tactics going on in the states and federal governments, Id think this would be better than reducing peoples 40 hour week to 32 hours. Then again it makes sense so it probably wont pass.
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The author of HB 657 is active on facebook and responded positively. I asked him about it, and this is what he stated, "I have been told that it won't pass, but I think it can. We will keep pushing it!"

He actually seems to engage his followers on FB, unlike my representative who only likes to post pictures and go to 2nd Amendment rallies.
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