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Old 01-21-2013, 10:29 PM   #1
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Hey, I'm new to this form stuff . I own a 2011 wrx hatch about to upgrade the clutch and flywheel. Was thinking about going with a exedy stage 2 clutch kit and a light weight findanza flywheel. I daily drive my car but have plans to do mods in the very near future. I'm not to worried on how the clutch feels,but more for reliability use. Like I said befor I DD my car but have fun in it also also lol. What are the pros and con? I have been doing a lot if research and have heard a lot of different things so why not here some more.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:33 PM   #2
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:57 PM   #3
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Stick with the stock flywheel and get it resurfaced if it's still in good condition. Also, fill out your profile.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:46 PM   #4
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Why would you upgrade the clutch so soon? Do you plan on throwing a ton of power at this all at once?
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:03 AM   #5
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It's got 50k on it I just bought it. I put 5 k on it and then clutch is starting to slip.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:07 AM   #6
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Stick with the stock flywheel and get it resurfaced if it's still in good condition. Also, fill out your profile.
Consider this at least.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:19 AM   #7
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Ill fill out profile dude chill. Why stick with oem what's you reasoning .
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:25 AM   #8
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The stock clutch is meant to slip somewhat. That is what protects you from breaking something when you put it under too much load. If you are only slipping when coming off the clutch into another gear than the clutch is probably fine. If not, when it's it slipping?
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:42 AM   #9
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Started slipping in 5 when accelerating to pass on highway then 3 and now alittle in 4 when applying the gas. Clutch is way high and occasionally smell it.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:33 AM   #10
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READ the link posted in the first response to your post. You buy the APPROPRIATE clutch for your car and in this case, buying an "upgrade" is actually a downgrade. If you wear a size 10 shoe, that is what you buy....same rule is with clutches. If you have or are planning in the very near future a significant torque upgrade in your car, THEN you can buy and use something upgraded (and NO....stage 2 is not a significant torque upgrade) and aside from that, a lightweight flywheel has several detractions such as mucho noise, having to rev much higher to take off, and CELs for missifires.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:25 AM   #11
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I've got a lightened flywheel on my WRX (I believe it's 11lbs, but not positive) that I daily drive and I would not recommmend it. Driving in 1st gear is just annoying unless you know the sweet spots, it will buck when decelerating and just feel off. Getting the car rolling from a stop takes a bit more finesse, but it's not bad really, again just not as nice and forgiving as the stock flywheel. The benefits are that my downshifts are noticably quicker in my car then my friends WRX's with stock clutches; on a road course this is helpful and worth it for me.

As unabomber said though you match the clutch to the setup you want to build. If you never plan on making more then typical stage2 numbers then your stock clutch is going to be ideal for your setup, especially if you are just dailying the car with some spirited driving.

Honestly unless your clutch is slipping while engaged then you do not have any reason to consider upgrading it yet. Spend some time working out exactly the purpose of the car and make a determination on how much power you realistically want to put down. Then you'll be able to more accurately determine which clutch is suitable for your needs.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:45 PM   #12
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Thanks for the info guys. I have plans to go to about 400 horse range. I'm not to worried on how the clutch feels ill get use to it. I just don't want to blow thru the clutch nor do I want to hear major chatter alittle I can deal with. My buddy rolls older subies and recommends both he said ill love it. I also heard that cel will come on only if you do lightend pulleys too.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:48 PM   #13
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a lightweight flywheel has several detractions such as mucho noise, having to rev much higher to take off, and CELs for missifires.
I haven't heard of anybody having this issue on a 2.5L, going back all the way to the 04 STi. I'm pretty sure that was a 2L only problem and has been gone for nearly a decade.
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I haven't heard of anybody having this issue on a 2.5L, going back all the way to the 04 STi. I'm pretty sure that was a 2L only problem and has been gone for nearly a decade.

I don't know anyone that has had a CEL due to a lightened fly wheel.
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Thanks for the info guys. I have plans to go to about 400 horse range. I'm not to worried on how the clutch feels ill get use to it. I just don't want to blow thru the clutch nor do I want to hear major chatter alittle I can deal with. My buddy rolls older subies and recommends both he said ill love it. I also heard that cel will come on only if you do lightend pulleys too.
You are beyond reach. I told you what to read and again you refuse to read it. Maybe you'll read it when you explode your gearbox by using the wrong clutch or when you get a CEL suntan.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:18 PM   #16
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You are beyond reach. I told you what to read and again you refuse to read it. Maybe you'll read it when you explode your gearbox by using the wrong clutch or when you get a CEL suntan.
Listen to this man.

And sell your car for an STI if you are planning on getting close to 400whp
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:31 PM   #17
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Lol. Now I see why I never use forms before. To the people with the helpful info thanks. You no you can built a tranny and or swap. There are plenty of wrxs out there that are well over 375-400 mark. And I have read all info .
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:49 PM   #19
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Listen to this man.

And sell your car for an STI if you are planning on getting close to 400whp
care to elaborate more on why he should sell his car if he plans on getting close to 400whp? I feel like you're just throwing around uneducated responses.
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care to elaborate more on why he should sell his car if he plans on getting close to 400whp? I feel like you're just throwing around uneducated responses.
Simple... at those power levels, a STI is more reliable. Swapping parts into the WRX to get the same reliability costs more monies and time to install. The STI is just a better platform for moderate to heavy modding.
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care to elaborate more on why he should sell his car if he plans on getting close to 400whp? I feel like you're just throwing around uneducated responses.
I had a huge response typed up, and then the site ****ted out on me. Here are the main points since I'm on my phone.

-I probably should have said he should have purchased an STI instead, as selling will lose him, most likely, a lot of money. But the cost of the trans swap alone puts him up near what an STI cost.

-I, and I'm sure most others agree, that if you are planning a good 400whp build before you bought the car you'd choose an STI. It's hard to argue why you wouldn't.

-I'm sure a 400whp WRX will be a blast to drive. I hope it's reliable for him and he doesn't have to sell a kidney for the build
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I had a huge response typed up, and then the site ****ted out on me. Here are the main points since I'm on my phone.

-I probably should have said he should have purchased an STI instead, as selling will lose him, most likely, a lot of money. But the cost of the trans swap alone puts him up near what an STI cost.

-I, and I'm sure most others agree, that if you are planning a good 400whp build before you bought the car you'd choose an STI. It's hard to argue why you wouldn't.

-I'm sure a 400whp WRX will be a blast to drive. I hope it's reliable for him and he doesn't have to sell a kidney for the build
I guess i'm just missing whats more reliable about the STI other than the tranny? both are prone to breaking when pushed past the stock power levels, so i see it as a crap shoot once you start modding either vehicle.
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I guess i'm just missing whats more reliable about the STI other than the tranny? both are prone to breaking when pushed past the stock power levels, so i see it as a crap shoot once you start modding either vehicle.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2251226
It's been discussed quite a lot. The transmission alone is pretty much enough to justify the difference in price and on top of that you get so much more. Read that thread and you'll see what I mean. The motor on the WRX and STI are identical, so they both need to either be replaced or built with forged internals to handle more power.
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2251226
It's been discussed quite a lot. The transmission alone is pretty much enough to justify the difference in price and on top of that you get so much more. Read that thread and you'll see what I mean. The motor on the WRX and STI are identical, so they both need to either be replaced or built with forged internals to handle more power.
to me the tranny is the only BIG difference, i owned a 10' wrx and will be picking my 13' STI up in about a month. both are great platforms, i guess it comes down to how much $$ you have to spend upfront.
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2251226
It's been discussed quite a lot. The transmission alone is pretty much enough to justify the difference in price and on top of that you get so much more. Read that thread and you'll see what I mean. The motor on the WRX and STI are identical, so they both need to either be replaced or built with forged internals to handle more power.
I wanted the stronger drivetrain mostly, but I'm fairly certain I can swap in a 6 speed for under 11/12 grand.

figures based on the 5 door STI msrp at 36,295 and base 5 door wrx at 25,795.
My deal started at 24,200 on the base wrx
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