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Old 01-23-2013, 12:20 AM   #1
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Default Open faced vs full face for rallycross events

I tried searching web and this forum, but couldn't find this discussion that was current. Have seen pros use the open face, but they really have protection in front of their face with the intercom built into a frame - sort of partial full face coverage. Anyway, I will be running some rallycross and autocross - would like to hear pros and cons of each.

Was thinking of buying a Bell Sport - full face or a RaceQuip full face. Also will be riding with my son in some rallys as well so communications would be good later when we can afford it.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:36 AM   #2
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Open face.

I hate full face as they always fog up on me, no matter what. As for protection, protection from what exactly?
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:03 AM   #3
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Full face is more usable and you can always take off the visor for autocross and rallycross.

I have an open face Peltor for stage rally but will highly consider closed face next time, just because of the extra protection (and now I know I probably won't get sick).
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:11 AM   #4
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If you're in a street car with an airbag, I see no reason for a closed-face.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:29 AM   #5
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If you're in a street car with an airbag, I see no reason for a closed-face.
I can use my full face when I go karting at Summit Point or the local indoor place.
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:17 AM   #6
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I have multiple helmets for this reason. I have an open face helmet for stage rally, an open face for autox/rallyx, and a closed face for all other racing.

I like the open face for autox/rallyx because it's generally hot out, and it allows me to instruct better because they can hear me talk. The same reason I love the open face for stage rally - plus if the intercom fails (terracom) I can still talk to my codriver better than if I had a full face.

I basically only use the full face for events that require it, or gokarting.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:15 AM   #7
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I can use my full face when I go karting at Summit Point or the local indoor place.
Not sure if your indoor place specifically requires closed-face or not, but the one in Raleigh allows me to use my open-face if I wear protective eyewear. I just bring Oakley M-Frames with clear lenses.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:49 AM   #8
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Lots of opinions thanks - I'm still leaning towards full face - but like the idea of multiple helmets if we get hooked into the sport.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:54 AM   #9
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I have used full face for a long time. But I use the helmet for a lot of things and there are various requirements:

HPDE instructing: I have a chatterbox communicator mounted on the helmet with the instructor assembly on both ears with the mic in the front.

Snowmobiling: It's freaking cold. The helmet keeps me warm.

Karting: I can use theirs, but prefer my own. Full face with shield down is required.
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Not sure if your indoor place specifically requires closed-face or not, but the one in Raleigh allows me to use my open-face if I wear protective eyewear. I just bring Oakley M-Frames with clear lenses.
The indoor place has never said anything about my full face with the visor removed or up, but the outdoor place requires both full face and visor down.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:43 AM   #11
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Like others, I use full face so that I can use one helmet for everything.

Idk about RallyX, but for HPDE were required to run with our windows down and I've seen people get rocks flung up and hit them in the face.
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Idk about RallyX, but for HPDE were required to run with our windows down and I've seen people get rocks flung up and hit them in the face.
SCCA RallyX requires windows almost all the way up, at least in my "region."
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:19 AM   #13
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SCCA RallyX requires windows almost all the way up, at least in my "region."
Same here.
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i have a track helmet.. I removed the face shield and only have sunglasses, in hot weather they are fine.. It keeps my breathing somewhat clean, and my sunglasses on my face, as well as keeping my face safe.
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I also run with the windows down, so it gets dirty inside..But at least I can see and breathe
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How do you setup for autox and rallyx
Seems like two different suspension bits to me.

I take full face due to me participating in different events. Karting requires full face with shield down.
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How do you setup for autox and rallyx
Seems like two different suspension bits to me.
Run stock.

I ran RTA at SCCA Solo Nationals and SA at SCSA Rallycross Nationals in the same car last. Had different tires (Dunlop StarSpecs for auto-x, General Arctics for rally-x) and different rear swaybar (SPT STi for auto-x, stock for rally-x), otherwise no differences.
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