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Old 09-17-2002, 10:54 AM   #1
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Question Buy Vishnu IC hoses by itself?

Can u buy just the Vishnu IC hoses buy themselves? Its says something like $159 w/purchase of a kit. Can someone expalin.

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Old 09-17-2002, 11:25 AM   #2
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According to this link Order link you can.

There's an order button under the bottom image on this page http://www.vishnutuning.com/parts.htm

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Old 09-17-2002, 11:52 AM   #3
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how to put this delicatly

vishnu hose = samco hose

my roomate has been waiting for 2 months to get his from vishnu .. i think he finnaly gave up and requested his money back

i believe it is actually a manufacture proublem not a vishnu proublem but still
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Old 09-17-2002, 12:02 PM   #4
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Personally, I'd rather get the Samco hoses since you can find a vendor that have them in stock. And you can probably get 'em cheaper.

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Old 09-17-2002, 12:16 PM   #5
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I've seen 'em for $130 shipped in the vendor's forum.
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Old 09-17-2002, 12:27 PM   #6
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Quote:
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how to put this delicatly

vishnu hose = samco hose

my roomate has been waiting for 2 months to get his from vishnu .. i think he finnaly gave up and requested his money back

i believe it is actually a manufacture proublem not a vishnu proublem but still
Yes, we were facing a supply problem with Samco hose. We could only get a few per week. This is what prompted us to make our own hose kit which we have in stock now, btw

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Old 09-17-2002, 12:40 PM   #7
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Yes, we were facing a supply problem with Samco hose. We could only get a few per week. This is what prompted us to make our own hose kit which we have in stock now, btw

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In your infinite free time, how about dynoing just the hoses on an otherwise stock WRX?


Yeah, I know it's more of a reliability mod than a real performance mod, but I'm just curious.
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Old 09-17-2002, 12:45 PM   #8
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In your infinite free time, how about dynoing just the hoses on an otherwise stock WRX?


Yeah, I know it's more of a reliability mod than a real performance mod, but I'm just curious.
Already did it We see 3-4 wheel hp on an otherwise stock car. We've around 6-8 wheel hp on Stage Zero cars.

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Old 09-17-2002, 01:19 PM   #9
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Yeah, I know it's more of a reliability mod than a real performance mod, but I'm just curious.
I'd certainly consider it a performance mod. I definitely noticed the difference on an otherwise stock WRX, especially with spool-up / throttle response. Power application in 4th and 5th on freeway cruise was definitely more linear and less 'press and wait'

I think it's an excellent mod for the price and simple installation.
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Old 09-17-2002, 01:48 PM   #10
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Default Samco hoses have other problems...

Samco Intercooler Hose Kits have more problems than availability....
For some reason some of the Samco hoses are different and don't fit. Do a search on this forum and you'll see what others have to say. While others find that they don't have a problem, others have had to cut/modify their Samco hoses to make them fit
Gambling 130.00 on a hose that needs mods. seems to be the hard way to go.
My friend's car has the Samco Kit and I noticed that where it attaches to the turbo there was a kink and the more he tried to adjust it the worse it got. He also told me that he had to push the hose over the tabs on the intercooler inlets to make it fit, otherwise the whole hose would kink...


Just my .02 worth and what I've read.
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Old 09-17-2002, 01:52 PM   #11
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I just ordered some, I've been wanting SAMCO - but I think I'll give Vishnu a shot - given that I'm seriously thinking about the Stage 3

I'll report back when I get em fitted.

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Old 09-17-2002, 01:53 PM   #12
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Default Re: Samco hoses have other problems...

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He also told me that he had to push the hose over the tabs on the intercooler inlets to make it fit, otherwise the whole hose would kink...
that's how they all are...nothing wrong with that, and it certainly doesn't cause any problems. if there was a kink in the inlet hose, then it was either installed wrong, or there is something wrong with it, in which case, it should be removed from the car and sent back to samco to have it replaced. i have all samco hoses and no problems.
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Old 09-17-2002, 01:53 PM   #13
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My Samco IC hoses fit fine. I got mine in May of this year. They do slip on the turbo/TB easier than the oem hoses for me. On the other side of the coin, it also slips off easier...

On 1 occasion, it slipped off my turbo. I think it was partly an issue of the new screw-type clamp I used and oil in the IC hoses. I just check and tighten the clamp more often.

Other than that, easy and cheap mod to do. I recommend it.
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Old 09-17-2002, 02:03 PM   #14
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My samcos did not go over the tabs and seemed to fit fine.
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Old 09-17-2002, 02:09 PM   #15
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Already did it We see 3-4 wheel hp on an otherwise stock car. We've around 6-8 wheel hp on Stage Zero cars.

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Does the dyno plot for the upgraded hose ever dip below the stock one, or is it an across-the-board benefit? Thanks.
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Old 09-17-2002, 02:16 PM   #16
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Question how does it help?

Shiv, are the power gains seen by these intercooler hoses caused just by a reduced pressure drop (higher boost) or are the flow/cooling characteristics responsible for this. Do you usually recommend that Stage 0 owners reset their MBCs to make up for the difference in pressure drop (if any) caused by these hoses?
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Old 09-17-2002, 02:19 PM   #17
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My samcos did not go over the tabs and seemed to fit fine.
See how yours fit but other people on this thread had to go over the tab. You'd think that the hose would be the same, but obviously they aren't.
Maybe a QA problem.

I also noticed on my friend's car that it looked like the hose to the turbo would also come off easily, but anymore fidgating and the kink got worse....



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Old 09-17-2002, 02:29 PM   #18
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Mine were from a recent production run (were shipped to vendor I bought from in june) so maybe they fixed the problem.

I experimented by sliding the hose over the tabs on the intercooler, but then it started kinking.
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Old 09-17-2002, 02:34 PM   #19
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I experimented by sliding the hose over the tabs on the intercooler, but then it started kinking.
Mine were the same too.
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Old 09-18-2002, 02:58 AM   #20
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If one were to have previously purchased a stage 0 from Vishnu before any IC hoses were offered (Samco or otherwise), would they be charged $139 or $159 for the hoses when they send their Unichip back to be remapped for them?

Hypothetically speaking, of course.

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Old 09-18-2002, 04:23 AM   #21
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I just ordered some, I've been wanting SAMCO - but I think I'll give Vishnu a shot - given that I'm seriously thinking about the Stage 3
You do realize that the Stage 3 kit has a FMIC? That means that you are going to end up selling this kit or shelfing it when you upgrade. Given that you are considering the Stage 3 though I would still throw my $ Vishnu's way.
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Old 09-18-2002, 09:25 AM   #22
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Lets get something straight about silicon hoses, be they Samco or any other brand....

I have many different hoses made by Samco and another silicon hose manufacturing company. I have designed the steel mandrels that they are made from and asked for them to be modified if they dont fit.

So, a manufacturing company (like myself) can approach a silicon hose making company and have them make a custom made hose.

I do have an intercooler upgrade hose for the WRX. First we fabricated an aluminium mock up of the hose that we wanted made and sent it to the UK for a toolmaker to make the steel mandrel that the hose will be made from. A few samples hoses were made and sent to us for a trail fit, the fit was not perfect so the tool had to then be modified and another few samples tried...again slight changes had to be made untill the fit was perfect..

If the hoses are made by Samco then the Samco logo goes on the hose. We could have just left the hose how it was in the first sample and sold them even though they dont fit properly.

This is what some companies are doing....designing hoses that dont fit, the Samco label goes on and Samco gets the blame....

So, there are who knows how many different versions of this hose...some fit, some dont...ours do..

The other problem could be that there is probably hoses floating around that are ment for 97-00 WRXs..they are a fair bit different..

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Old 09-18-2002, 10:54 AM   #23
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Yeah - I know it has an FMIC - and I'd just pass the parts on to a friend of mine who is still running a stock setup. Share the love and all that

For the time being it's useful to me as I am running pretty much stock (exception of Prodrive muffler, Blitz panel filter etc), so I'll get em anyway.

Now Shiv - when is that bad boy coming out - and how much "roughly" is it likely to cost?

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Does the dyno plot for the upgraded hose ever dip below the stock one, or is it an across-the-board benefit? Thanks.
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Old 09-18-2002, 05:28 PM   #25
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Does the dyno plot for the upgraded hose ever dip below the stock one, or is it an across-the-board benefit? Thanks.
Nope. It's an across the board benefit.

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