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Old 06-24-2014, 09:34 PM   #1
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Hey Guys so I have been reading over some great threads here the past few days and decided to make and account and post up my project. My hopes are that I will receive lots of great feedback on what I intend to do in order to get the best possible result.

As with the thread by ronaldvalente I want this project to go as stock as possible (No drilling or cutting and all OEM parts must be able to be put back in down the road when I sell the car).

What I want to accomplish is this. I want CLEAN audio. This wont be anything competition grade just something I can enjoy for a 6 hour road trip I frequently drive. I don't need the punchiest bass or the loudest speakers as long as the sound that is produced is clean and well balance. I also plan to keep satellite radio using the stock antenna with the appropriate adapter. A nice added bonus would be if I can move the reverse camera to the new after market HU as well as I like the radio position and size over the MFD screen.

Below are the parts I already have for this project being carried over from my current vehicle:

2x 10in Pioneer Premier Shallow Mount Subwoofer
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Nitro 1200W Amp 2chNitro 1200W Amp 2ch

These get the bass part done for me, its clean bass at normal listening volume levels and really helps with sound reproduction.

Below are the parts I intend to purchase:

Head Unit: Pioneer AVH-4000NEX
20-pin HU Harness
Axxess ASWC-1 Module
Toyota Style USB adapter
Double DIN Dash KitDouble DIN Dash Kit

Parking Break Bypass for 4000NEXParking Break Bypass for 4000NEX

Satelite Radio TunerSatelite Radio Tuner
(Again for this I intend to utilize the stock antenna)
Speaker Mount Adapter (4x door and 2x dash)
Speaker wiring harnessSpeaker wiring harness
(4x door) ((It appears the dash (tweeter) does not need an adapter???)

Audio equipment up for debate:
Focal Integration ISS 165 (front door and dash)
Focal integration IC 165 ( Rear Doors)
(I saw both of these units from another thread and I believe the 4000NEX 50W per channel RMS should be fine to drive these speakers without an amp - comments welcome though)

Anyway that is all I have for now. I would LOVE some discussion on what I intend to do as discussion on makes us smarter and am hoping you will bring to light anything I may have forgotten or not thought about!

Also I would really appreciate ANY insight on taking the rearview camera feed and plugging it into the 4000NEX. does anyone know what kind of wiring goes into the MFD to accomplish the camera feed? really hoping coag so all i have to do is relocate the wire.
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Old 06-24-2014, 09:35 PM   #2
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This is how I currently have my subwoofer and amp set up in my truck (1993 GMC Sierra 1500) I did this when I was 16 and was really my first experience with this sort of thing so go easy HAHA. As you can see I went for a clean, minimalist and also non intrusive (stock friendly, no cutting / drilling) approach as best i could. This is what I will try to achieve in my WRX only a step up in the professionalism department.

Passenger Side (Amp under seat):


Passenger side low front:


Passenger side low Back:


Drivers seat (Subs behind seat):


Drivers seat leaned forward:


I also have Kappa infinity speakers in all four speaker ports in this truck. I would love to exceed my current audio sound quality and don't believe it will be hard but my current setup is surprisingly clean and sounds excellent.

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Old 06-24-2014, 09:36 PM   #3
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Old 06-24-2014, 09:51 PM   #4
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You don't need the bypass cable. Check here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTJuq-s8rSs

See www.ae64.com for the harnesses you will need as well. He has been very busy, took him over a week to reply to me.

I have recently seen some postings that the Maestro RR will receive an update soon that will allow you to keep the MFD display. Might be worth looking into instead of the Axxess unit. I haven't really dug into it as I don't have that display in my impreza sport premium
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Old 06-24-2014, 10:50 PM   #5
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thanks for the reply!

the 4000 does need the bypass unfortunately since its not a nav unit, the 5,6,7,8 series have nave and therefore use GPS for motion detection which is why shorting the wire works on those. unfortunately the 4000 does not

www.ae64.com was such a help in picking most of those things out. half of that stuff I wouldn't have even thought of until i had my dash apart and started scratching my head haha!

As for the Maestro I believe the only function that is lost on the MFD is the song overlay, which really I don't care too much about but I will look at the RR again and see how it compares price wise compared to the Axxess!

Any suggestions for sound deadening? I don't want anything too expensive but if the price is right for all 4 doors I will do them while I have the paneling off.

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Old 06-25-2014, 12:36 AM   #6
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to keep stock look and get quality sound i would recomend you

audison bit proceessor ull get cleen sound and keep stock HU

front: components never sounds good enough without amplifier so here 2ch amp to speakers or go active 4ch 2ch to mids 2ch to tweaters

rear: stock should be enough
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Old 06-25-2014, 12:23 PM   #7
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sorry I meant stock look as in the parts I add I would prefer be hidden (such as the AMP) and no wires exposed. the head unit however I cannot stand so that will be changed out regardless.

The other head unit I am now considering is the Kenwood 5901. And I will review the Alpine products that come out tomorrow as well.
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Old 06-25-2014, 12:40 PM   #8
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one thing to note about that 4000 HU is that it is 50W max power. Per the manual, continuous power is only 22 watts per channel. I dont recommend purchasing any speakers until you ahve listened to the one you want to buy. Focals (in general) have very bright tweeters. Their woofers are great, but the tweets are overly bright. Some consider it ear piercing. Yes, you can attenuate them back a bit and if you have a processor you can tweak them and get them to sound decent. In your situation, I think sticking with a passive component speaker will suit you just fine. Not everyone needs active processing. Especially not the audison processors. They are terrible and will break on you.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:39 PM   #9
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and never mind. Google just announced an in car OS for android compatibility. This HAS to be what Alpine is holding out for tomorrow. I will be seeing what they come out with before making any head unit decisions.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:59 PM   #10
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Good to know on the 4000 needing the bypass. I ended up going with the 5000 myself. I just got it installed and took a quick drive around the block to test it out. It is a pretty awesome head unit so far. I need to live with it a little more.

I still running stock speakers for the time being. I will need to upgrade those at a later date.

ae64.com's harnesses helped out a lot as well. I just used the ASWC-1 and still have complete control of steering wheel. The voice command doesn't work, but I knew that already and never really used it anyways.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:36 AM   #11
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thanks for the info millertime359!

can I ask what phone you have (android / iphone) and if you are able to do full screen mirroring with hdmi calbe?

i'm really looking for a google maps solution for navigation. Im hoping with what google announced yesterday that Alpine will come out with something in a few hours and may pioneer will update some of their units so I can have some options!
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Old 06-26-2014, 05:18 PM   #12
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The 5000 does not have the HDMI connection. Have to step up to the 6000 for that and HD radio.

I have an iPhone 5s. I came from a car with built in nav and got used to it. I also had to drop my unlimited data plan when I got my new phone, so having to pay attention to data now, I decided it was best to just get the integrated nav unit.

It is nice having an EQ so you can tune the bass out of the stock speakers. They seem to have a little more head room now. I'll be able to live with them until I pull the plug on the components and amp.

I've had a lot of bad luck with Kenwood products in the past, where I haven't with Pioneer, so I tend to just stick with what has worked well for me.
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The 5000 does not have the HDMI connection. Have to step up to the 6000 for that and HD radio.

I have an iPhone 5s. I came from a car with built in nav and got used to it. I also had to drop my unlimited data plan when I got my new phone, so having to pay attention to data now, I decided it was best to just get the integrated nav unit.

It is nice having an EQ so you can tune the bass out of the stock speakers. They seem to have a little more head room now. I'll be able to live with them until I pull the plug on the components and amp.

I've had a lot of bad luck with Kenwood products in the past, where I haven't with Pioneer, so I tend to just stick with what has worked well for me.
you know there are standalone gps apps for your cell phone. i rarely use it tho lol
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you know there are standalone gps apps for your cell phone. i rarely use it tho lol
Yep, but coming off of unlimited data plan to a 2 GB, I would rather not have to worry about it. I've also had issue where I have been in a poor cell service area and lost my directions when I actually needed them. Only happened once or twice, but still like having it built in to the radio.

There are plenty of options. This is what works best for me.
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can I ask what phone you have (android / iphone) and if you are able to do full screen mirroring with hdmi calbe?

i'm really looking for a google maps solution for navigation. Im hoping with what google announced yesterday that Alpine will come out with something in a few hours and may pioneer will update some of their units so I can have some options!
I've been working on a similar setup and just recently installed the 4000NEX (best head unit I've had, sound quality seems phenomenal). Using the HDMI input and a Galaxy S3 with MHL adapter I'm able to get full screen mirroring and control via the head unit. Look into the app 'AppRadio Unchained' if you're on Android. Functionally it's far superior than the stock Pioneer AppRadio (which only gives you a few pre-approved apps you can run from your phone). It's still in a bit of a beta phase, but the developer is actively working on it, and is pretty close to a release version.

I think the Android CarOS announcement looks cool, but I'm worried it will be too closed source like the Pioneer AppRadio. I (like many) just want a full Android system in my dash, which is what you can get with the NEX series and a bit of tinkering. But still WAY easier than trying to do the mount a tablet in your dash routine, which I was close to pulling the trigger on before looking into the Pioneer offerings.

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Yea I think I'm swinging back around to the NEX 4000... It gives me all the features I want and I believe I can still add an Alpine power pack to juice up my speakers with this HU ( correct me if im wrong please ).

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Old 07-02-2014, 04:56 PM   #17
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Hate to post the same question twice but screw it:

How is the NEX series head units? I have a 2013 JVC model that supports iPod mirroring but not android. (god forbid any company supports Android platform *gasp*)

I have a Galaxy S3 which is apparently compatible with MirrorLink. I'm trying to find a head unit that can display my phones GPS system while still being able to play music off a USB/SD card or pandora. I did a ton of searching on the new Pioneer 5600BHS and 4000NEX head units and cna't find definitive answers as to how the MirrorLink technology works.

1: What apps does it support? are you forced to use certain GPS apps?
2: does it let you play music while the GPS is up on the screen? Some head units don't do this which is mind-blowingly stupid.
3: Apparently MirrorLink requires some HDMI type cable that costs a good chunk of change

Sorry for the questions, i just find it INCREDIBLY frustrating that something so simple is so difficult to find in a head unit.
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Yea I think I'm swinging back around to the NEX 4000... It gives me all the features I want and I believe I can still add an Alpine power pack to juice up my speakers with this HU ( correct me if im wrong please ).
There are 2 versions, one that is a plug and play for Alpine head units and another that can be wired into any head unit.

So yes, with the 4000NEX you can add a power pack.

Gro,

I can't speak to the Android side of things on the 5000NEX as I have an iPhone. I do really enjoy the head unit though. I have had it for about a week and the Pandora app is works very well. I also haven't had any issues with touch sensitivity either.

HDMI cables are not that expensive. Check on Amazon.
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Hate to post the same question twice but screw it:

How is the NEX series head units? I have a 2013 JVC model that supports iPod mirroring but not android. (god forbid any company supports Android platform *gasp*)

I have a Galaxy S3 which is apparently compatible with MirrorLink. I'm trying to find a head unit that can display my phones GPS system while still being able to play music off a USB/SD card or pandora. I did a ton of searching on the new Pioneer 5600BHS and 4000NEX head units and cna't find definitive answers as to how the MirrorLink technology works.

1: What apps does it support? are you forced to use certain GPS apps?
2: does it let you play music while the GPS is up on the screen? Some head units don't do this which is mind-blowingly stupid.
3: Apparently MirrorLink requires some HDMI type cable that costs a good chunk of change

Sorry for the questions, i just find it INCREDIBLY frustrating that something so simple is so difficult to find in a head unit.
Mirrorlink is the standard wired connection tech for newer phones and tablets. Now as to which version of Mirrorlink depends on the device and connector the manufacturer uses...so it's a standard with a lot of variations which pretty much ends up with everything being proprietary at least with Samsung and Apple. But the standard basically is converting a standard HDMI input to a micro type connector.

For the S3 if you decide to use Mirrorlink you will need to purchase a genuine Samsung adapter from Samsung directly (it's around $40) or buy in store. Don't bother with other knock off adapters or buying elsewhere online, you will just end up with headaches or the need to buy additional adapters as the S3 uses a proprietary connection. I really recommend just skipping Mirrorlink all together and going with an Allshare wireless adapter instead (it's around $90). Reason for going wireless is there have been lots of problems with GPS signal dropping off when connected via Mirrorlink, you also get the added benefit of being able to charge your phone and hiding all the other wires.

Unless you root your phone you are currently limited to use of Pioneer's Appradio app. You can download it to see the apps available or check out their website. There's not a lot on there but I normally stick to google maps or waze. I can't speak for your headunit, but I am able to stream music while I have a GPS app running at the same time on my 8500BHS which is an older model.
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The new Kenwood 571hd and some other high end NEW Kenwood units do full screen mirroring and control of a compatible android phone. It isn't a very well known feature yet but I've seen it in action and it works really well

Also there is no rooting required for android

Here is a link of app mode for android in action

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I'm installing a Nex6000 in my 15 base wrx non navi, do I need a dash kit? also is this module good to keep the steering controls. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASWC-1-AXXES...-/281091326633
Apart from the above, do I need anything else please? Thanks
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Old 07-09-2014, 01:08 PM   #22
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yes that is the SWC unit you need to retain full functionality and I believe you DO need a dash kit for base no nav as well. I believe this kit should work http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metra-95-890...4881?catId=293 but cannot confirm yet as I am still waiting for delivery of my WRX
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Old 07-09-2014, 01:39 PM   #23
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Thank you Covert_Death.
I wonder why most member prefer to buy the module from http://www.ae64.com/ when its readily available elswhere!!
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Old 07-09-2014, 02:42 PM   #24
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not sure, they reference the same vehicle so they APPEAR to be the same bracket, however most people are already ordering harnesses from him so maybe they just throw it in the same order?

Im trying to verify where I saw his kit listed on his site so I can confirm they are the same... although his site is hard to navigate sometimes lol if anyone has a link to his mention of the HU kit please link it!

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Just Arrived and will order the Ebay dash kit, I hope it will fit.
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