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Old 01-24-2013, 02:04 PM   #1
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Legacy "EJ22T" Swap... Seeking Advice...

Hello everyone! I have a 1999 Subaru Legacy Wagon that has the 2.2l EJ22 N/A motor, and, long story short, the motor's going bad. It only has 125k miles but the previous owner didn't take care of it very well, and well... I bought it, and the knocking's just been getting horribly loud, it burns about a quart of oil every 80-100 miles, it sometimes hesitates to start from a standstill. (5 M/T) and sometimes will have a slight backfire, and quit, and have a hard time starting up again. And... Well I dont know... Don't anyone call me stupid for considering this but, my uncle had a '94 Leg turbo wagon, and he always talked about how hard it pulled, and it was always dependable... So, I was thinking about finding an older "EJ22T" motor, and swapping it into my car, which would also be my Senior Project in school. So, anyways, I'm just kinda throwing this idea out there because I don't really know where to start. And I sure as **** don't want to make any poor decisions and ruin the whole project. So if you guys could help me out with ideas, pros/cons, cost estimates, where to look for the motor... That'd be great! It's always been my dream to have a car that's turbo, and this project would be a dream come true for me. So, thanks!
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:20 PM   #2
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Speaking as an older guy, looking back and pretending I was you, I'd find a good cheap dependable car to get me through highschool and college then worry about turbo's etc.. If you focus on the important things now, the things you want will be easier to afford later because you will have the skills to get a better job if you apply yourself.

Good luck, but I wouldn't undertake a swap if I were in highschool unless my parents were banking it and had lots of extra cash. At that point I'd just make the rich bastards buy me a better / newer car!
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:21 PM   #3
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There is a wealth of information on these older Legacy's at http://www.bbs.legacycentral.org

You're likely going to have challenges dealing with the ODB-I vs ODB-II, unless you do a complete wiring, sensor, and ECU swap.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:46 PM   #4
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Don't do an OBD-1 EJ22T swap, it isn't worth the effort. The only good part of an EJ22T is the shortblock. Do an OBD II swap out of a newer WRX if you need turbo.

Better yet, put a 2.5l in where the 2.2l was and be done with it. Your 2.2l is a phase 2 motor and has the big SOHC heads, so it will interchange with the 99 and newer SOHC 2.5l's.
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:25 AM   #5
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Sadly, the EJ22T isn't electrically compatible with your car. The pick ups on the cam gears are different, meaning the signal pattern for the timing sent to the ECU is going to be different. The newer cam gears don't fit on the older camshafts and the newer camshafts don't fit in the older heads.

The crank gear is the same deal, however they are interchangeable. But they send out a different signal pattern.
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:21 AM   #6
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Don't do an OBD-1 EJ22T swap, it isn't worth the effort. The only good part of an EJ22T is the shortblock. Do an OBD II swap out of a newer WRX if you need turbo.

Better yet, put a 2.5l in where the 2.2l was and be done with it. Your 2.2l is a phase 2 motor and has the big SOHC heads, so it will interchange with the 99 and newer SOHC 2.5l's.
Okay, so you mentioned the 2.5l swap, that would be much easier. Now, knowing that the 2.5l motor at the time had the very well known problem with the head gaskets being faulty. I really don't want to have to buy a 2.5 and have to replace the head gaskets before installing it. So, from what I've heard, the 2.5's had the gasket problem up until 2004. So would the '05+ 2.5's be compatible with my car? And on the other mention of the possibility of a WRX swap, what year of rex motor would be most compatible with my car?
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:43 AM   #7
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You may want to start looking at the Conversion forum, and less in the Newbie Forum.

Also, according to this thread, the 2.5's went to the Phase II EJ motor well earlier than 2004, depending on which model car you're pulling it from, but generally right around 99-2000, so 2000 and '01 donors should be good.
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:59 AM   #8
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So, if you guys were to recommend a good, reputable website that sources quality motors, can you guys come up with any?
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Old 01-25-2013, 12:38 PM   #9
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You may want to start looking at the Conversion forum, and less in the Newbie Forum.

Also, according to this thread, the 2.5's went to the Phase II EJ motor well earlier than 2004, depending on which model car you're pulling it from, but generally right around 99-2000, so 2000 and '01 donors should be good.
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So, if you guys were to recommend a good, reputable website that sources quality motors, can you guys come up with any?
I know it was difficult to see, hidden in the text, but this thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=386462
Will give you a lot of answers on where to source parts from, along with other parts you may need.

Also, just go over to the Conversion forum, I haven't searched, but I'd wager that you will find 90% of the answers you're looking for, rather than asking people in this forum.
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