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Old 01-25-2013, 11:22 AM   #1
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Default Timing belt component kit question

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I wanted to know if anyone had ordered the
Dayco 84104 Engine Timing Belt Component Kit before? I'm broke and only got the timing belt, water pump and spark plugs changed in November 2012. mileage was 112k at the time. now it is 115k and Im considering replacing the pulleys and tensioner to complete the maintainence. Please provide any feedback as to what i need to know. thanks NASIOC. preferably looking for the lowest price in the market.
so far google.com and amazon.com have the lowest from my search. any others?
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Old 01-25-2013, 12:33 PM   #2
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:05 PM   #3
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I see you are in Canada - do you mean 115,000 kms?
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:50 PM   #4
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:52 PM   #5
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for the price of the Dayco component kits, you might as well look into a full PCI timing belt kit. There are a few good reviews/reports on them here.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:02 PM   #6
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Your Google search skills suck. "Dayco timing belt kit wrx" returns a bunch of irrelevant results including timing belt kits that include both the belt and components, kits that include the belt, components, and water pump, and even kits for different cars, all of which make the products, and therefore the prices, impossible to compare. I know you're trying to make the sarcastic point that the OP doesn't know how to use Google, but using Google the way you do shows that you don't know how to use Google. It is counterproductive to post ****ass links like that, and I'd request that you cease immediately!

This is how you do it.

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Old 01-25-2013, 06:22 PM   #7
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thanks to the two of you above. my 2 yr old nephew knows how to use google. if a computer doesnt open google for him, he tends to push the monitor to the floor. lol
I wanted to know if the dayco component kit is OK to use and if there are kits that are cheaper like this and OK to use. I dont have a lot of cash to blow on kits at the moment. thx
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:07 AM   #8
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Well, that kit gets a few good reviews on Amazon, but the parts also get a few worrying reviews on NASIOC and other forums. I found pictures and it appears that the tensioner pulley seal is BLUE like the OEM one. If it were YELLOW, it would probably be the same as the Beck Arnley tensioner, which is a big no-no. If the tensioner you receive happens to have a yellow sealed cartridge bearing in the pulley, do NOT use it. It will fail early. Mine failed in 2000 miles, and multiple other people have issues. In fact, I haven't heard anyone say anything good about the Beck Arnley tensioner.

Now, that doesn't mean that the Dayco tensioner/pulleys are OEM spec, or that they're any good. Hard to say really.

Edit: Did you check the pulleys when you had the belt off? If you spin them by hand and they spin loudly forever, they're dying. If they spin soundlessly and not for very long it means they are in good shape and the grease is healthy. The timing belt tensioner is more difficult to gamble on. If the hydraulic assembly is leaking, it's obvious it needs replacement. Also, if it fails it keep even tension on the belt at all times (i.e. it lets the belt flutter up and down) then it's failing. Sometimes it will not tension the belt properly until the car is warmed up a bit. Many times it will start knocking against the block if it's failing, which will hopefully give you enough warning to let you stable the car until it gets fixed. Christ, I'm sorry for my rambling.

In summation, Gates is your safe bet, Dayco is less safe. Gates is more expensive. Your call, Jeremiah.

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Old 01-26-2013, 09:45 AM   #9
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amen. thx
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Try importimageracing.com the have the lowest prices for timing kits I could find. I paid 300 for the entire it with water pump.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:33 AM   #11
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:08 AM   #12
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I paid $145 for the Gates TCK328 timing belt kit (supposed to be OE replacement and more than $300 worth) off rockauto.com. gota go pick it up! hopefully its good to be true..that gave me room to buy ac pulley and Group N crankshaft/Alternator pulley

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Old 05-24-2013, 01:29 AM   #13
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I paid $145 for the Gates TCK328 timing belt kit (supposed to be OE replacement and more than $300 worth) off rockauto.com. gota go pick it up! hopefully its good to be true..that gave me room to buy ac pulley and Group N crankshaft/Alternator pulley

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I hope you're at least doing a water pump and thermostat while you're there. Personally I tend to do cam and crank seals as well since I'm there, but that's just me
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Old 05-25-2013, 02:56 PM   #14
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I hope you're at least doing a water pump and thermostat while you're there. Personally I tend to do cam and crank seals as well since I'm there, but that's just me
It should be noted that those things aren't necessary to do, but are easy to do seeing as you're already in there.
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Old 05-27-2013, 11:53 PM   #15
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yes water pump and timing belt only was done :S..stuphid me
but its time to sell that 10k miles belt for $20 and put new belt and pullies hopefully engine operates really smooth.
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We've installed 100s of the gates kits and they are as good as new. Get the complete kit with the water pump, it is your safest bet and in the end may save your engine from an early and COSTLY Demise....

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but but sir, i have already replaced the water pump and timing belt 10k miles ago....
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but but sir, i have already replaced the water pump and timing belt 10k miles ago....
Which water pump did you put in?

Remember the bearings in any of the pulleys that your belt runs on can cause your car to go boom. For the few dollars extra it pays to do the whole kit as long as you are going to be in there noodling around.

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Old 05-30-2013, 08:34 PM   #19
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yeah i know. im surprised it held up. the belt is keeping it alive. 118k miles... the new kits on its way
will post pics of the Gates tck328

the way i feel about this car. it was used less but driven long distances. lot of the things are in good condition. even spark plugs werent bad at all. thats prob another way of looking at it.
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Old 08-15-2013, 12:04 AM   #20
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does anyone know the difference between the gates TCK328 and TCK328A, other than about $100? did subaru really change the pulleys and stuff in 2004?
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