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Old 11-12-2013, 05:30 PM   #1
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Default TPG Tuning: 04 Sti, Built Motor, FP "Black", Pump Gas - 426WHP/398WTQ

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Dyno Type: Mustang 500AWD-SE
Baseline for stock STi: 210WHP

Vehicle: 04 Subaru Sti
Peak Horsepower: 426WHP
Peak Torque: 398WTQ
Engine Management: COBB AP
Transmission: Stock Sti 6-Speed
Boost: 21 Psi
Fuel: 93OCT
Gear: 4th


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TPG Tuning Stage 2 Short Block
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Forced Performance Black HTA Turbo
Forced Performance 84mm Turbo Inlet
GrimmSpeed 38mm EWG Up-Pipe
ETS Front Mount Intercooler
ID 1000cc Top-Feed Conversion w/ Rails & Lines
Walbro 255LPH Fuel Pump
3" Turbo-Back Exhaust
KSTech 73mm Big-MAF Intake
Stock Exhaust Manifold
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We've built several cars lately utilizing the FP Black turbo and it has proven itself as one of the best 400+whp bolt on Subaru turbos on the market.

These are awesome numbers on pump gas on our dyno, with this setup capable of over 500whp on E85.

Transient boost response on the street is great, and very fun to drive!



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Old 11-12-2013, 07:49 PM   #2
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Nice car man, I love the power your getting.
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:52 PM   #3
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Sweet man I'm so jealous of that FP black.. I had an FP green when my motor blew.. Now running Blouche 20GXT which I think is very similar to the green. Awesome #'s though and this is more on the conservative side correct?
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:47 AM   #4
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Ever consider re-clocking the compressor housing?
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:50 AM   #5
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Sweet man I'm so jealous of that FP black.. I had an FP green when my motor blew.. Now running Blouche 20GXT which I think is very similar to the green. Awesome #'s though and this is more on the conservative side correct?
Yes, this pretty conservative and could really shine with some race gas/ethanol!

This is our customer's daily driver so reliability is a huge factor!
Perfect combo as far as power and reliability that will last for a long time
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:50 AM   #6
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Ever consider re-clocking the compressor housing?
For what reason?
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:24 PM   #7
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What's the biggest limiting factor on the top end power for this setup? Or did you taper boost up top? Stock cams? What comprises the stage 1 heads package?
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:27 PM   #8
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For what reason?
Just a thought


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Old 11-15-2013, 02:10 PM   #9
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Just a thought


Figured that is what you were thinking!

Just no point chopping up a brand new ETS intercooler kit to save a few inches in piping
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:38 PM   #10
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any reason you went with the black over the hta green? Seems like the hta green makes pretty close to the same numbers and spools a bit earlier.
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:42 PM   #11
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What's the biggest limiting factor on the top end power for this setup? Or did you taper boost up top? Stock cams? What comprises the stage 1 heads package?
The biggest limiting factors now are fuel and heads. This setup would easily make 500whp+ at 26-28psi on E85. It holds boost to redline as is, and the FP Black has proven itself to work very well above 30psi.

Our Stage 1 heads consist of our 3 angle performance valve job and rebuild, retaining stock valves, springs, retainers, and cams.

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Old 11-15-2013, 03:46 PM   #12
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any reason you went with the black over the hta green? Seems like the hta green makes pretty close to the same numbers and spools a bit earlier.
You would be hard pressed to make this power out of an HTA green on our dyno at this boost presure. The customer plans to build the heads and run E85 in the future so the FP Black is better for his future goals!

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Old 11-15-2013, 04:41 PM   #13
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How's the fitment? I remember one member on here had to grind his trans bell housing/block to make it fit
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:03 PM   #14
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How's the fitment? I remember one member on here had to grind his trans bell housing/block to make it fit
We had that same problem on a customers 2010 Wrx a lil while back but FP revised their turbine housing I believe!

This built with the FP Black required no grinding/modification for proper fitment

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Old 12-23-2013, 12:39 AM   #15
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Sorry guys to bring this thread back from the dead but I wanted to know how u guys got the inlet to fit. I have gs tgv deletes so it has space but just the offset for the turbo is insane along with its inlet size. It jus doesnt look possible for it to be able to hook up to the inlet. Im currently starting the same type of install and this kinda has me stumped. Thanks in advance for any advice or even pictures if anyone has any.
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:51 AM   #16
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Sorry guys to bring this thread back from the dead but I wanted to know how u guys got the inlet to fit. I have gs tgv deletes so it has space but just the offset for the turbo is insane along with its inlet size. It jus doesnt look possible for it to be able to hook up to the inlet. Im currently starting the same type of install and this kinda has me stumped. Thanks in advance for any advice or even pictures if anyone has any.
What up-pipe are you running? We have seen some fitment issues with aftermarket up-pipes, but for the most part they always fit well. It may require you to leave the lower bolts on the up pipe loose and also clearance the block slightly.

We have also found it easier to install the inlet first, then the turbo onto the inlet, and then down onto the uppipe.

Shoot us a PM or call if you need any help!

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Old 12-24-2013, 12:17 PM   #17
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What up-pipe are you running? We have seen some fitment issues with aftermarket up-pipes, but for the most part they always fit well. It may require you to leave the lower bolts on the up pipe loose and also clearance the block slightly.

We have also found it easier to install the inlet first, then the turbo onto the inlet, and then down onto the uppipe.

Shoot us a PM or call if you need any help!

Nate
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I sent you a pm. Thank you in advance
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