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Old 02-01-2013, 11:52 AM   #26
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I think I'm at the carbide bit point. I've snapped three wrenches, two sockets, and I've tried a big breaker bar and I weigh 230 and no joy. I'll try the impact for the good vibes today lol.
Just make sure you give the bolt a healthy squirt of PB blaster a couple times with those good vibes. Curious to see if it works for anyone else or if I just got lucky. Last time though I broke an Allen bit then used that method and they came off.
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:37 PM   #27
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you can also heat up the bolts to loosen them but you can fry the gears if you arent careful. sometimes there is no other way especially if you round out the head. ive also welded sockets onto the bolt then broke them loose that way.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:26 PM   #28
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Heating makes me nervous on plastic gears. Idk. I'll try an impact tomorrow, if it doesn't work ill grind it or drill it. Not to stressed over drilling it. Any input on valves gents? I'm thinking GSC or Supertech.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:23 PM   #29
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What's wrong with the stock valves?
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:29 PM   #30
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What's wrong with the stock valves?
Uhhhh...... I mean technically probably nothing, however, why not build everything while its apart? When supertech valves are similarly priced to Oem stuff.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:47 PM   #31
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Also, question..... H beam w/ ARP625's or I beams w/ ARP2000's?
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:20 PM   #32
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Heating makes me nervous on plastic gears. Idk. I'll try an impact tomorrow, if it doesn't work ill grind it or drill it. Not to stressed over drilling it. Any input on valves gents? I'm thinking GSC or Supertech.
dude drilling takes 10-15mins total.

I hit them with the impact a couple times, then breaker bar with a longer pipe on it for 1-2mins. If that doesn't work get your drill and go at it.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:21 PM   #33
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Disregard. I like all the supporting evidence on behalf of H beams.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:23 PM   #34
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dude drilling takes 10-15mins total.

I hit them with the impact a couple times, then breaker bar with a longer pipe on it for 1-2mins. If that doesn't work get your drill and go at it.
That's the plan man.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:25 PM   #35
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Which supporting evidence for the h beams? I've heard a couple people say that now and haven't found anything really.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:35 PM   #36
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Which supporting evidence for the h beams? I've heard a couple people say that now and haven't found anything really.
I've read thread after thread on here of people successfully using H beams with some ARP fasteners and having good reliable power levels upwards of 600. There are equally as many supporting discussions on I beams though.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:12 AM   #37
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Oh I gotcha. I thought you meant like the enginerding math for it. I've been too lazy to dig out an old textbook and take a look at it.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:18 AM   #38
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Oh I gotcha. I thought you meant like the enginerding math for it. I've been too lazy to dig out an old textbook and take a look at it.
I'll be honest, m not that much of a nut that would take it so far as to getting into the engineering aspect of it. I Mean maybe a little but nothing crazy lol.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:25 PM   #39
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Lol I know I've got problems, I would like to but oh well. If you don't want problems then go with a proven rod there are several. Carrillo h beams, BC I beam, pauter x beams, Manley turbo tuffs. Won't have any problem with any of them. I picked the BC I beam because out of those its the cheapest.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:14 AM   #40
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Decided on supertech valves.
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What made you go with super tech?
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:52 PM   #42
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What made you go with super tech?
I'm doing supertech for a few reasons. I've used them before, they are a good quality name in valve train manufacturers, the price point isn't to bad, Inconel is more but I think it's worth it.

Anyone else w/ valve suggestions?
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:21 PM   #43
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Upon disassembly of the old motor I found this little gem of an oil pump. Finally an answer to my phantom oil leak.

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Old 02-03-2013, 08:44 PM   #44
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I like ferrea too but I don't see any problem with supertech. I also think the inconel is worth it. I've been wondering if the stock exhaust valves are inconel for 2007+ they are pretty expensive while the intakes are cheap.
That sucks with the pump. Guess it doesn't matter now lol.
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:46 PM   #45
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Ha nope, cleaned it for a picture and then tossed it in the trash.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:06 PM   #46
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Short block is dropped off at machine shop. Just need to hear about bearing measurements and then I'll order bearings and we'll be good to go on the short block.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:11 PM   #47
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Pressure washed the motor compartment today in order to prep for a fresh coat of WRB.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:47 PM   #48
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Thinking about pulling the trigger on some new Manley H Tuffs w/ arp hardware.
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Have you looked at the BC I-beans? They can be had for cheap new after some searching.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:30 PM   #50
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Have you looked at the BC I-beans? They can be had for cheap new after some searching.
I have and I can get a great deal on them. I just keep reading things that say H beams are plenty strong then I see I beams are the way to go. Ah! Why do. have so many rods on my mind. . . . . . . Any takers on that one? Lol.
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