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Old 01-30-2013, 08:43 PM   #1
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The PROBLEM now im guessing is the oil.Yesterday I was noticing some ticking/knocking sound driving around in low rpms with the windows down(not drivetrain tick but sort of a knock sound usually when i would turn and let of gas in parking lot for like) When i left heb oil light flickerd for about 1 sec then turned off. Got home and checked dip stick after it cooled and it was bone dry. Added 1qt drove to school did not notice a sound checked oil again still maybe a black drop right at the bottom and that was it. Added another quart and still its barely showing on the dip stick. I changed the oil 2k ago with the 10w30 castrol syntec. At first i thought it was a cracked pick up tube after watching this vid. It mamkes the same sound
at 0:10- 0:15 is when you can hear the wierd sound im trying to describe. I popped hood and tried to look for any oil leaks i did see some loose hoses by the intercooler held by zipties(previous owner) replaced them with clamps. THHHHEN
I finally got to look under the car and this is what i saw right by the oil filter and midpipe.
Both elbow and clamps and bolt to the left looks like its been leaking
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This one bolt also looks like its leaking placed directly to the right of the first picture: the rubber bushing or whatever also looks torn.
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Could these simple spots be the cause of everything? Also that much oil consumption 2qt within 2k? The dipstick barely has oil at bottom probably going to have to go buy more tonight as i dont want to kill this motor.

I will apreciate any advice..THANKS
EDIT: more oil found

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Ive only had car for about 3 months mods (wiesco forged pistons,tgv delete
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:50 PM   #2
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There was also oily gunk all over the rack im not sure if thats just been from over time or a leak somewhere
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:55 PM   #3
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I would replace that little L hose as soon as you can. My friend Scott had one almost explode on him in his 04 wrx, it was bad... You have to drain your coolant to replace that little L piece of hose though.

As far as the oil, did you look in the hoses that connect to your intercooler? So, basically you hadn't checked your oil in 2k miles? Now don't be one of the many idiots I see post here and continue to NOT CHECK your oil. At a minimum you need to be checking it 1 time a week along with doing a visual check in the engine bay ok

Who built the block, also how many miles on this rebuild with the forged pistons? It sounds like a small rod knock to me. Time to pull the engine and the oil pan and start doing some checking on the pick up tube and then see if one of the rods is a little loose. But, in the end it sounds like a rebuild is coming for the bottom end.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:00 PM   #4
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The previous owner claimed it has new 08+ nitrided crankshaft, new bearings, new oil pump, new gaskets and seals.
Pistons and timing belt have 24k miles. The crank, bearings, oil pump, etc have <2000 miles


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Old 01-30-2013, 09:03 PM   #5
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Do you have an oil pressure gauge? If so what's it reading?
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:14 PM   #6
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I would pull pan and see if pickup is broken. Doesn't take long really take I/C off, take anti roll thing take Motor mount nuts off pull the pan. Even easier if you take headers off. Better safe then sorry.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:26 PM   #7
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I would replace that little L hose as soon as you can. My friend Scott had one almost explode on him in his 04 wrx, it was bad... You have to drain your coolant to replace that little L piece of hose though.

As far as the oil, did you look in the hoses that connect to your intercooler? So, basically you hadn't checked your oil in 2k miles? Now don't be one of the many idiots I see post here and continue to NOT CHECK your oil. At a minimum you need to be checking it 1 time a week along with doing a visual check in the engine bay ok

Who built the block, also how many miles on this rebuild with the forged pistons? It sounds like a small rod knock to me. Time to pull the engine and the oil pan and start doing some checking on the pick up tube and then see if one of the rods is a little loose. But, in the end it sounds like a rebuild is coming for the bottom end.
Why would i have to drain coolant, If oil is in the hose?

No i do not have oil pressure gage

I really dont want to go to subaru as im sure there gonna charge me a arm and leg for labor.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:35 PM   #8
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I honestly think you did some serious damage, especially if the oil light came on. When that idiot light comes on the damage has already been done. You most likely damaged some rod bearings.

Drain the oil, look for metal specks. That will tell you the quickest way for now.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:50 PM   #9
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light literally flickered and never came up again
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:03 PM   #10
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still drives fine and there has been no more knocking, and when it did make that wierd sound it would only hapen for a second or two when i would turn the wheel slowing down at about 2500rpm in parking lot. When i posted this i was just concerned about those banjos leaking oil and the bolt that has the plastic washer being loose and torn. I would think if i messed up a rod bearing it would still be knocking still which is not
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:54 PM   #11
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i bet my money on the oil pickup, how many miles on the engine?
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:19 AM   #12
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The car has 74k almost 75
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:21 PM   #13
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found more oil added pics at top!

vavle gasket leaking?
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:43 PM   #14
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any ideas on the oil near the IC?
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any ideas on the oil near the IC?
When was the last time the PCV had bin replaced or cleaned or the hoses and clamps could be worn out.
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any ideas on the oil near the IC?

Like trev said. Does not appear to be valve cover gaskets as that puddle in your recent pic appears to be coming from above somewhere. Also, look for worn holes in your turbo oil supply line that comes off the back of the head. With that kind of leak you may need to sop it all up (or degreaser and wash it off) and get a buddy to hold the RPMs up a bit to build pressure to see if you can spot any runs/drips. From those below the car pics it is probably the oil running down the motor....maybe. I would clean it up real good so you can get a good idea of where the leak is. From your pics it appears to be comming from up top if you are lucky.

Good luck man.
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Get a compression and leakdown test done asap and stop driving the car. SOA has a parts guy for a reason, call him and tell him where it is leaking and he will give you the part number. We aren't here to do the work for you. When my motor went it consumed 1.2qts every 800 miles, I would not be surprised your internals are toast. A good test. Turn the car on and take the oil cap off and see if any smoke comes out. Report back here with the results. If it is the turbo seal, you can take off the TMIC and see if there is any oil in there, if there is, then that is a good sign it is the turbo seal.

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Get a compression and leakdown test done asap and stop driving the car. SOA has a parts guy for a reason, call him and tell him where it is leaking and he will give you the part number. We aren't here to do the work for you. When my motor went it consumed 1.2qts every 800 miles, I would not be surprised your internals are toast. A good test. Turn the car on and take the oil cap off and see if any smoke comes out. Report back here with the results. If it is the turbo seal, you can take off the TMIC and see if there is any oil in there, if there is, then that is a good sign it is the turbo seal.
Its the dp he needs to take off to see if the turbo seals r gone plus why would he need to contact SOA for part #'s when the op can contact any dealer for that/
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Its the dp he needs to take off to see if the turbo seals r gone plus why would he need to contact SOA for part #'s when the op can contact any dealer for that/
Edit: the op has a built block so I highly doubt he has catastrophic failure unless he has over 30k on the built block but could be wrong. He needs to find out where the oil leak is coming from first and go from there.
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Its the dp he needs to take off to see if the turbo seals r gone
You would also see oil in the TMIC as well if the Turbo seal was failing.
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You would also see oil in the TMIC as well if the Turbo seal was failing.
Um!! U should always see oil on the ic side unless u r running an aos that's why u pull the dp to check if turbo seals r gone.
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Um!! U should always see oil on the ic side unless u r running an aos that's why u pull the dp to check if turbo seals r gone.
Let me rephrase, A LOT of oil and your turbo seal is going, a little is okay.
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Let me rephrase, A LOT of oil and your turbo seal is going, a little is okay.
That is why people pull the dp to check cuz what is considered alot or a little to some people but by pulling the dp u know for sure there is no discrepancies.
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When was the last time the PCV had bin replaced or cleaned or the hoses and clamps could be worn out.
I bought car about 2-3 months ago ive yet to do this as been very busy with school and work.


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That is why people pull the dp to check cuz what is considered alot or a little to some people but by pulling the dp u know for sure there is no discrepancies.
so pull the dp and check for oil in there? Do you know if this proccess is time consuming? dont got to much time knor do i have a full tool box. Debating on just taking to a shop i just dont feel like paying all the fees lol
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ask the previous owner about why its like that!
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