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Old 08-06-2014, 06:23 PM   #76
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Guys, I need help bad. Wanted to upgrade sway bars, got the end link nut almost off then the Allen key stripped. Said **** it I'll take the other side out before I get up to cut it out. Passenger side nut is stripped and can't get a grip on it. As it sits now, half an end link hanging and no roll bar

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Old 08-25-2014, 01:00 AM   #77
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i have played with sway bars on my 11' wrx for the last month. I have a whiteline 24mm front and 22mm rear, the 24mm front on soft with 22mm on full stiff still feels understeery. So i took the 24mm front off, looking to maybe add a hole on the front stock swaybar make it a 21mm and put the rear on medium maybe..

I feel like with the rear on full stiff, was too much, causing the rear to be less accommodating to the road.


thought not to use my kartboy endlinks on the stock bar but now im going to put those back on the front stock sway as well.

I started off with the rear bar upgrade on medium and it was more oversteer.

i did some other research on the net. from what i found, seems like there is a big debate vs. having spring/shocks, vs. just trying to save money and do swaybars only, as i did. since i have another car ready for the track and this is more of my DD. which i want to do one track day. Road course. no auto-x - which might i say, seems where more of the swaybar suggestions come from on size.

going back to the research point,. stiffer sway bars tend to tie your suspension together making it less independent. and the argument is body roll should be adjusted with better shocks, instead of sways. and stiffer springs hold the pitch of the car. Also talk about the sway bar taking away grip to reduce body roll?

So going too stiff on just swaybars with no other upgrades, may promote the car to slide out more abruptly. As i was noticing this on flat turns, and maybe off camber turns, when i just had the rear 22mm on medium. and stock front swaybar.

When i dialed the car back down, with just having the rear 22mm set on soft with stock front sway bar i got quicker corner exit on the sweepers, offramps. but maybe less faster corner entry.
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Old 10-16-2014, 06:50 PM   #78
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Super noob question, but would I need adjustable endlinks for any sort of lowering my car? Looking at kartboys, but if i need adjustable ones to go about 2 inches lower on my 08 2.5i hatch i have to start searching for another deal
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Old 10-16-2014, 07:51 PM   #79
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If all you're doing is changing bars all other suspension stock then no need for adjustable endlinks. Usually you only need adjustable endlinks if change ride height or have adjustable coil overs. The adjustable end links allow you to make sure that the swaybar isn't preloaded due to variances in ride height on each of the corners.
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:44 PM   #80
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If all you're doing is changing bars all other suspension stock then no need for adjustable endlinks. Usually you only need adjustable endlinks if change ride height or have adjustable coil overs. The adjustable end links allow you to make sure that the swaybar isn't preloaded due to variances in ride height on each of the corners.
so if i lower it would be best if i had adjustables? kartboys would do me the same as the stock ones?
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:27 PM   #81
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How are you planning to lower the car....coil-overs, struts/springs?? What sway bars are you going to be using?
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Old 10-23-2014, 02:47 PM   #82
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I have 2008 2.5i Wagon as my D/D to work and my set up is stock spring and struts with stock 19 F & 22 R Whiteline with kartboy endlinks. I like it with only a little oversteer but manageable. I'll be replacing the stock front (19) with Eibach 25(hollow tube) and use karboy endlinks too.
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Old 11-11-2014, 10:23 PM   #83
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I have a 2015 wrx and I am looking at getting the Whiteline Sway Bar and some endlinks. I wanted to know which type of endlinks are quieter, ball socket or spherical. Also not sure which will be a better endlink as far as performance.


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Old 12-06-2014, 10:46 PM   #84
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[quote=blueRex11;42438935]i have played with sway bars on my 11' wrx for the last month. I have a whiteline 24mm front and 22mm rear, the 24mm front on soft with 22mm on full stiff still feels understeery. So i took the 24mm front off, looking to maybe add a hole on the front stock swaybar make it a 21mm and put the rear on medium maybe..

Amazing that I had exactly the same feeling about sway bar set up. I also have WL 24F/22R combo front soft rear meadium. Really improved the body roll with stock dampers. I changed to Koni yellows and I could feel rear was very "snappy" not really a good transformation of the rear. I played a lot with rebound adjustment with Konis. I definitely felt that suspension are being restricted and not letting the suspension do their job. I will change the front to stock and see how it plays out.
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Old 12-06-2014, 11:29 PM   #85
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i have played with sway bars on my 11' wrx for the last month. I have a whiteline 24mm front and 22mm rear, the 24mm front on soft with 22mm on full stiff still feels understeery. So i took the 24mm front off, looking to maybe add a hole on the front stock swaybar make it a 21mm and put the rear on medium maybe..

Amazing that I had exactly the same feeling about sway bar set up. I also have WL 24F/22R combo front soft rear meadium. Really improved the body roll with stock dampers. I changed to Koni yellows and I could feel rear was very "snappy" not really a good transformation of the rear. I played a lot with rebound adjustment with Konis. I definitely felt that suspension are being restricted and not letting the suspension do their job. I will change the front to stock and see how it plays out.
It sounds like you're running 23.5mm frt (soft 24mm) and 22mm rear (middle rear) which is about +1.5mm diff front to rear. I don't know the yellow spring rates but I'm guessing its nearly a square setup (frt and rear rates very similar). If that is correct then you've stiffened the front (higher wheel rate) more than the rear and changed the balance of the car. In general a square spring setup works very well with a +2mm diff frt to rear for DD or track use (note: autox would most likely require a stiffer rear bar and maybe even a slightly softer front bar to aid rotation and front bite).

On my STI I run a square spring setup (albeit with higher spring rates) with 22mm Super Pro frt/rear bars...frt set hard (23mm) and rear soft (21mm). This setup provides good grip and good balance even at the limits. On my car the 22mm (middle setting) was too stiff for the rear and ended up with the softest (21mm). Suggest trying your WL front 24mm bar at soft (23.5mm) and rear 22mm bar on soft (21mm) which is a +2.5mm frt/rr for more rear compliance/grip. I had 24mm frt/rr bars on the car when I first got it and couldn't get the car to "settle down"....nervous and twitchy. No matter how soft I made the rear (23mm was the min) it always felt too stiff, the front seemed ok at soft (23.5mm).
Hopefully reducing your rear bar setting will reduce the "stiffness".

I have not run Konis, so not familiar with the best damping settings, but in general for a DD running rear rebound a click or two stiffer than the front usually is a good starting point for performance oriented driving. If you go a lot more than a few clicks stiffer then the rear can get "nervous" and loose (oversteer). For purely DD you may want to try your rear rebound the same or a click or 2 softer than the front for a compliant ride.......you will get some roll as you soften the rear but not excessive.

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Old 12-15-2014, 11:55 AM   #86
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I have a 06 forester x can put 04 sti megan racing lowering springs on it with stock struts or di need to change top hats
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Old 12-17-2014, 05:10 PM   #87
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Hi guys, I have an 04 WRX wagon running stock sway bars and swift springs that are slightly stiffer than stock. I want to run a 24mm front/22mm rear but as far as I know whiteline makes the biggest front bar for a wagon which is 22mm... I'm under the impression that if I use spherical end links in the front I can use a sedan sway bar in a wagon, is that correct? Is there some other company that makes a bigger FSB for a wagon?
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Old 12-31-2014, 01:47 PM   #88
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I'm been reading for hours and can't find advice. I have a 95 JDM WRX swap into my Impreza L. I need a front sway bar. Will an 02-07 WRX sway bar fit? Or am I going to have to order outside th states?
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Old 01-08-2015, 03:30 PM   #89
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ok so I have an 05 9-2x (wrx wagon)

rear oe links are the C shaped plastic/rubber bushing design. Can I install the straight balljoint style links in place?
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Old 01-08-2015, 08:22 PM   #90
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ok so I have an 05 9-2x (wrx wagon)

rear oe links are the C shaped plastic/rubber bushing design. Can I install the straight balljoint style links in place?
Nope. go kartboy...profit.

Botox bolts and a rear strut bar also helps wagoneers
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