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Old 02-04-2013, 05:27 PM   #51
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I don't think it's any stupider than the terms we more commonly use.. like 'sedan' and 'coupe'... and certainly less stupid than ambiguous terms like 'sport utility vehicle'.
At least it makes sense. Shooting brake refers to nothing that even exists today or anywhere. It combines two non related things to refer to yet another non related thing..

Like Banana Slicer Pendulum polisher to refer to a tricycle...
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:32 PM   #52
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At least it makes sense. Shooting brake refers to nothing that even exists today or anywhere. It combines two non related things to refer to yet another non related thing..
Does a saloon car still make sense? Sedan? Coupe? Fastback? Notchback?

I think you are taking this naming thing too seriously. It is a name. This isn't etymology class.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:42 PM   #53
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It is a stupid name that nobody on earth outside of England a few people in the auto biz know what means. To the average person a sedan is a sedan, a coupe is a coupe, a wagon is a wagon. But shooting brake does not even sound like a car. I would wager that all shooting brakes are really just hatch backs or wagons....

in fact having looked it up the dictionaries say it was an outdated phrase replaced by estate car, which is of course a wagon.!!!!!
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:33 AM   #54
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It is a stupid name that nobody on earth outside of England a few people in the auto biz know what means. To the average person a sedan is a sedan, a coupe is a coupe, a wagon is a wagon. But shooting brake does not even sound like a car. I would wager that all shooting brakes are really just hatch backs or wagons....

in fact having looked it up the dictionaries say it was an outdated phrase replaced by estate car, which is of course a wagon.!!!!!
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:26 PM   #55
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:39 PM   #56
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Mercedes-Benz claims its new CLA180 BlueEfficiency Edition will be the world's most aerodynamically efficient production road car when the European deliveries begin in June.

The swoopy four-door sedan forms part of an initial five-car lineup of CLA models set for a public debut at the Geneva motor show in March.

With an official drag co-efficient of 0.22, the CLA180 Blue Efficiency Edition undercuts the existing aerodynamic champion, the Mercedes B180 BlueEfficiency with the optional eco technology package, which claims a 0.24 Cd.

By comparison, the Toyota Prius is rated at 0.25 Cd and the BMW 320d EfficientDynamics at 0.26 Cd.

The key to the CLA180 BlueEfficiency Edition's wind-cheating prowess is its relatively small frontal area of 23.8 square feet (2.21 square meters) and a series of subtle refinements not found on other CLA models.

The refinements include a reworked front apron, improved sealing for the headlamp surrounds, altered airflow guidance to the radiator, an adjustable radiator shutter, serrated spoilers to guide air into the wheelhouses, front wheelhouses with integrated spoilers and slits to reduce pressure buildup, new mirror housings, aerodynamically optimized wheels and tires, extensive underbody cladding, a redesigned exhaust and refinements within the rear edge of the roof.

The CLA180 BlueEfficiency Edition is powered by a 1.6-liter four-cylinder direct-injection gasoline engine developed with Renault. With 120 hp and 147 lb-ft of torque, it pushes the car from 0 to 62 mph in 9.9 seconds. A six-speed manual is standard. Top speed is electronically limited to 118 mph.

Combined fuel economy for the CLA180 BlueEfficiency Edition is put at 47.0 mpg on the European test procedure, which typically results in higher fuel economy numbers than the U.S. test. By comparison, the standard CLA180 is rated at 43.6 mpg on the European test.

Meanwhile, Mercedes-Benz is planning to extend its leadership in road car aerodynamics with the opening of a new wind tunnel at its Sindelfingen research and development facility near Stuttgart, Germany.

Set to go into operation by this summer, the new facility includes a rolling road as part of a 62.3-foot-long floor area and is capable of providing measurements at speeds up to 165 mph. The fan used to provide wind resistance measures 29.5 feet in diameter, uses 18 blades, provides a maximum volume of wind of over 7,063 cubic feet and powered by an electrical motor producing 148,991 lb-ft of torque.

Until now, Mercedes-Benz has relied heavily on the University of Stuttgart and its own original wind tunnel located at its nearby Untertuerkheim manufacturing base, which celebrated its 70th anniversary earlier this week, for much of its aerodynamic work. When the new wind tunnel begins operations in June, Mercedes-Benz plans to begin updates at its Untertuerkheim facility.

Read more: http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013...#ixzz2KYQhe05C


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Old 03-21-2013, 01:06 PM   #57
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Mercedes-Benz CLA250

This is the Mercedes-Benz CLA250, a car that is either going to engender much love or strong dislike. From its front-wheel-drive layout to its low starting price, itís the kind of vehicle that will upset purists while bringing new attention to the brand. Itís not as polarizing as when Porsche debuted the Cayenne or Panamera, but itís no less important to the continued health of Mercedes-Benz.

It is very pretty, having a design presence weíve not seen since the original CLS burst onto the scene. We challenge you to look at the profile view and not be impressed by its good looks. Remarkably, all of this style is contained in a footprint thatís roughly equal to the current C-Class sedan. The wheelbase is about 2.4 inches shorter on the CLA, at 106.3 compared to 108.7 inches, while the overall length is up from 180.8 inches to 182.3 inches. Width and height are nearly identical.

Under its creased hood sits Mercedes-Benzís 2.0-liter, turbocharged four-cylinder. It develops 208 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque. Helping the CLA250 along is a seven-speed, dual-clutch transmission. In a surprising twist, the CLA will be the only Mercedes product in North America thatís front-wheel drive. A 4Matic all-wheel-drive system is an optional extra.

Despite its sub-$30,000 starting price, the CLA can be fitted with quite a few goodies. 18-inch AMG wheels, the COMAND infotainment system, a panoramic sunroof, and a harman/Kardon Logic7 surround sound system are all available. Safety items like Collision Prevention Assist are standard.

The CLA250 starts at $29,900. The front-drive CLA will arrive in dealers in September of 2013. Those wishing for 4Matic will be waiting until spring of 2014.


Availability: September 2013, 4MATIC Ė Spring 2014

Models/Performance:

2014 CLA250 four-door coupe (208 hp, 258 lb.ft.)
2014 CLA250 4MATIC all-wheel drive, four-door coupe (208 hp, 258 lb.ft.)
Standard Feature Highlights:

2.0L inline 4-cylinder Turbocharged engine
7-Speed Dual Clutch Transmission
ECO Start/Stop
mbrace2 Ė In-vehicle Technology Suite
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Sport Package
4MATIC all-wheel drive
DISTRONIC
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PARKTRONIC w/ Advance Parking Assist
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2014 Mercedes-Benz CLA250
Engine: Turbocharged inline-4, 2.0 liters, 16v
Output: 208 hp/258 lb-ft
0-60 MPH: 6.9 sec (est)
Weight: 3264 (est)
Fuel Economy, City/Hwy: 23/33 mpg (est)
Base Price: $29,900

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I missed the reason for switching to FWD.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:08 PM   #59
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Its on the A-Class platform which has always be FWD.
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:40 AM   #61
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178hp/liter?! Holy crap.
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:41 PM   #62
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How in the hell did I miss this thread?!









Icing on the cake... BOOM!

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How in the hell did I miss this thread?!
You sure you got the right thread?
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and you posted in the wrong thread...
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I disagree. I think what drive the car is important to a lot of people. People dont drive rear wheel drive cars in Alaska for a reason. People in my region are quite familiar with awd as its a huge plus in most peoples eyes.

And fwd is crap when you have a lot of power. Its called torque steer.
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and you posted in the wrong thread...
That is what I was replying to... Sorry. I was too lazy to quote him. I'm also kinda surprised because I thought I've crossed paths with scoutisimo before in the Impreza forums... Oh well. But yes, even in Alaska a lot of people squeak when they find out my BRZ is RWD and I drive it everywhere. Mostly it's fine and I accelerate fine, but AWD is preferred for increased driver's confidence. I has enough skillz to make it work and still pass up most people, even on icy roads.
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