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Old 01-31-2013, 01:51 PM   #26
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If you don't have the car paid off, then put that 10k to the car because you don't want to be making a monthly payment on a car that is broken. When you build things to the extent you're talking, the car will break; its just a matter of what and when.

If you want "pin you in your seat" power, you'll need at LEAST 400whp to do that.

~20g xtr - $1600
~FMIC or TMIC - $700
~1000cc injectors and fuel pump - $500
~Larger MAF intake - $250
~Road tune/ dyno tune - $250 - $500
~Clutch and install - $1100

Engine Total = $4150-$4400 And that is with NO engine internals and NO built transmission

Now, you need to be able to handle that power.

~Coilovers - $1200
~Sway bars and endlinks - $500
~Better brake pads - $300
~Good rim/ tire setup - $1600 (and thats on the cheap side)
~Balance and Alignment - $100

Handling Total = $3700

Grand Total = $7850 - $8100.

Now, yes that is under your budget, but I also left out a lot of things. What about a short shifter, what about bushings, what about lightweight crank pulley?

This also leaves out if your motor pops. You probably should do internals on this setup so tack on another $1800-$3000 depending on what you do.

What about your transmission though? PPG is going to be at least $4k I believe and a 6 speed swap will be at least that much.

My point is, if you're really going to do this, pay off the car first, and then set aside at LEAST $15k. $10k will only get you to the point of getting there, but not getting there the right way. If you're going to do this build, do it right the first time so you're not wasting your time AND money.

Just my opinion though.
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:04 PM   #27
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Swaybars and coilovers helping you handle that power?

OK, MAYBE the coilovers for front/rear weight transfer on hard acceleration...

Beyond that, your cornering speeds are limited by our tires, and have nothing to do with HP. Swaybars do nothing under staright line acceration and braking.
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:34 PM   #28
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If you don't have the car paid off, then put that 10k to the car because you don't want to be making a monthly payment on a car that is broken. When you build things to the extent you're talking, the car will break; its just a matter of what and when.

If you want "pin you in your seat" power, you'll need at LEAST 400whp to do that.

~20g xtr - $1600
~FMIC or TMIC - $700
~1000cc injectors and fuel pump - $500
~Larger MAF intake - $250
~Road tune/ dyno tune - $250 - $500
~Clutch and install - $1100

Engine Total = $4150-$4400 And that is with NO engine internals and NO built transmission

Now, you need to be able to handle that power.

~Coilovers - $1200
~Sway bars and endlinks - $500
~Better brake pads - $300
~Good rim/ tire setup - $1600 (and thats on the cheap side)
~Balance and Alignment - $100

Handling Total = $3700

Grand Total = $7850 - $8100.

Now, yes that is under your budget, but I also left out a lot of things. What about a short shifter, what about bushings, what about lightweight crank pulley?

This also leaves out if your motor pops. You probably should do internals on this setup so tack on another $1800-$3000 depending on what you do.

What about your transmission though? PPG is going to be at least $4k I believe and a 6 speed swap will be at least that much.

My point is, if you're really going to do this, pay off the car first, and then set aside at LEAST $15k. $10k will only get you to the point of getting there, but not getting there the right way. If you're going to do this build, do it right the first time so you're not wasting your time AND money.

Just my opinion though.
Def like that breakdown of parts and prices thanks alot
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:34 PM   #29
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Wheels tires are purchased and on way

Suspension and brakes will be done on phase two of build as well
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:37 PM   #30
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Swaybars and coilovers helping you handle that power?

OK, MAYBE the coilovers for front/rear weight transfer on hard acceleration...

Beyond that, your cornering speeds are limited by our tires, and have nothing to do with HP. Swaybars do nothing under staright line acceration and braking.
He said he wants a beast. A beast is good at everything/ has everything. I gave him a buildup of everything.
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:28 PM   #31
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You can always part out your car, add that to your $10k, sell/trade your car in for a new STi, see how much money you have left, and go from there.
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:33 PM   #32
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You can always part out your car, add that to your $10k, sell/trade your car in for a new STi, see how much money you have left, and go from there.
I have seriously thought about it but like my car and subies already hard find around here
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:35 PM   #33
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OP, read this. You'll have a better idea.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1393580

Also sure you also have about $5k saves when you ****s breaks.
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:35 PM   #34
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Sell the crap you have... all of it.


Wheels/Tires.
Struts/springs
Sway bars
end links
anti lift kit

Start there.

Then get some brembos or other brake upgrade.

Then...
Full turbo back
bigger injectors
upgraded TMIC
Bigger turbo.
A real tune



That should put you pretty close to your total and you'll have a car that looks better, stops better and goes just fine.

Hell do E85 and you'll be at 400whp easily and reliably. But to tell you the truth... anything over 300 is useless on a street car anyways.

If all you're looking at is to flex your muscles on the dyno... Have a motor built and put a big turbo set up on it.

Then in 2 months when you wreck it or blow it up you can part it out here like all the other people.
you sir need to read the sticky about brakes....big brake kit completely uneeded. Something about all you need is enough to lock the wheels, which factory can do just fine.
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:37 PM   #35
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OP, read this. You'll have a better idea.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1393580

Also sure you also have about $5k saves when you ****s breaks.
Something can break now just as easy
Plus why I'm doing things right way so less chance of tht but thanks
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:39 PM   #36
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:43 PM   #37
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10k is no nearly enough $ for 400whp. you can do bolt ons for a lot less and be at 300whp pretty easy.

if you want 400 your gonna have to build the block and transmission. thats probably gonna be right around $10k right there, maybe more depending how much work you do.

Now, you still have to buy all the bolt ons, turbo, injectors, pump, exhaust etc... your looking at another couple thousand.

now with 400whp your suspension and brakes are a joke. there goes another couple thousand.

you want 400whp? try at least 20k and be prepared to fix your car all the time

its not worth it man. you dont know what your in for, and your not gonna like it when i describe it to you. i have more $ into the car in parts, than i paid for the car itself (literally) and i still dont have 400 whp. actually i have a non-running car so go figure.

if you want 400whp you picked the wrong car, go buy a mustang or vette

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Def like that breakdown of parts and prices thanks alot
by the way that breakdown is VERY conservative. youd be making out pretty ****ing good with those prices. in all actuality that number is gonna be about 15-20% higher. Also you dont do the labor yourself so thats another chunk of change.

also PPG gears installed and a clutch, i just paid $5600 to andrewtech a year ago. the gears alone are 4k, that does not include install
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:48 PM   #38
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Maybe you should talk to a tuner?

Also, do you by chance own a collection of flat bill hats?
thats funny.
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:50 PM   #39
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donate your 10K to your lease/house payments/or Poor people's charity.
or if you're planning to have kids, that'll come handy for a year's supply.
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:02 PM   #40
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ok heres the deal, you want 400whp? fantastic. buy a Lamborghini. im not sure you have a proper understanding of how fast that is. with an STI you can handle more power which is great but having a WRX, your going to need brakes (5K - actually the brembos that are stock on the STI are 4K w/o install) next: gearbox, your gearbox is rated for about 400 from the fly, thats it. you loose 20% through the drive train give or take so (to be conservative) 20% of 400 is......320 - right at STI level. you throw anything above 450 (crank) through your gearbox and youll tear it to shreds.

now lets get into your turbo - you shall require something that will handle a LOT of pressure, we are talking 30-35lbs. (2500) then your intercooler which is BS at the top so front mount kit (1000) decent intercooler (800) now for the back end race 5 inch down-pipe (catless) w/ up pipe and exhaust. then you need internal work, we are talking fuel pump, injectors, DOV/ BOV, throttle body, camshaft, piston work, equal headers.....have i lost you yet?

rally cars dont have that much power....do they? i though they were form the fly at 450hp?

so take that money and buy yourself an apartment.

sorry to crush your dreams of a 400whp car. but if you want one, save up and buy a supercar.
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:08 PM   #41
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also boys, please remember the rule of three

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2. Reliable

3. Cheap

Pick two.
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:12 PM   #42
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I have seriously thought about it but like my car and subies already hard find around here
Maybe you could invest in another car to make a beast.
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:22 PM   #43
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Buy a EVO 9 if you want big power without much effort.




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Old 01-31-2013, 05:37 PM   #44
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Lol thanks for all the investment info. I do my donations thanks I already have a house thanks
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Build your EJ motor and you'll be happy with the results.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:58 PM   #46
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I know I know got my flame suit on lol

Current mods
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Looking get power and reliablity from my 2011 wrx have some ideas like to see y'all's suggestions. Daily driven and just b nice have a freeway monster. I've searched and read build threads as well

sounds like ya bought the wrong car

$10k will pay to buy a new motor and trans when--WHEN you blow them up
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:59 PM   #47
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sti transmission swap, 20g, tbe, protune, intake, fmic, injectors, fuel pump, built block and lots of stickers
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:00 PM   #48
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Lol thanks for all the investment info. I do my donations thanks I already have a house thanks

there are VERY FEW 'investments' in automobiles...and NO subaru...none that you will ever get your hands on...will ever be any sort of investment of any sort
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:01 PM   #49
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Wheels tires are purchased and on way

Suspension and brakes will be done on phase two of build as well
Personally I would start with suspension first before having that much power on a car.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:03 PM   #50
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also boys, please remember the rule of three

1. Fast

2. Reliable

3. Cheap

Pick two.
My motorcycle meets all 3!
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