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Old 02-04-2013, 04:58 PM   #1
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Question Coilovers! How are yours holding up with snow/salt?

Hey all,

I'm in the market for coilovers as I'm fairly certain a spring/strut setup isn't for me. So far the greatest difficulty I've encountered is which will hold up to the elements best/reasonably? I live in the Chicago suburbs where the roads for the most part are decent but their a little salt happy.

Now I'm not looking to get the most expensive set as I dont ever track or autox, heck I don't even drive the car all that spiritedly (just want/need a stiffer ride to reduce dive ect and for my wheel setup). However if theres a coilover that has a better weather resistance track record Id gladly consider it within reason.

This factor is most important as I don't want to have to swap out suspension bits and realign every winter/spring (although alignment will be necessary with winter wheels admittedly). I know most of you are thinking why would I even bother with coilovers then. But thats not what I'm looking for help on.

So any of you with coilovers - I'd really appreciate your input. This is my first time ever doing anything suspension related to my car and I'm hoping afterwards maybe I'll want to actually drive my car like it was intended to be driven.

My car is a 2011 WRX but if any of you guys have models of coilovers in production for my year on an earlier model let me know. Or even if you've had a great experience with a company (rebuilding, warranty, so on and so forth).

Thanks guys, hopefully this wilk benefit others as well! Commence discussion!
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:13 AM   #2
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02 wrx wagon, 2 winter seasons on mine and no issues yet.
Im pretty anal about keeping my car clean.
Not showroom, but clean.
I try and wash my wheel wells and underside at least once a week in winter, I wd4o the coilover exposed parts like threads and adjusters.
I rockin bc's btw, which imo seems like perfect for you.
I dont remember the name but theres a newer company that has the same style/price range setup but the difference is they are garaunteed for life.
How the **** they do that idk. IM someone else can chime in with that companies name or call ssm they'd know.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:01 PM   #3
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We've been a supporter of D2 for a while. They've changed what they do and how they do things a few years ago which allowed the company not to fall to the way side.

We've sold dozens of sets and have had great success with every kit we've sold. We've also been around enough and have invested enough money into testing numerous sets of coilovers. A few of them have (the more expensive units really) were NOT wort the costs compared to a few of the more affordable units. Only reason I mention this is because you're looking for a unit that you don't have to service every year, that you can adjust when you'd want to and not have issues with the collars seizing or the top hat pillow balls clunking and acting up.

We've also converted a few people from coilovers that were actually on the car. One factor is that the D2's (the sets that we've encountered) haven't had any issues with seizing or being obnoxious and loud or even requiring service yet.

I'm sure someone else will chime in on the options as there are many and many people will have something to mention which is the plus side. I won't deter anyone from saying one is better than the other, there is no such thing because one will be a bit smoother than an other, one will be a bit more aggressive, one will require you to have less attention into maint (i.e. spraying PB blaster on the strut bodies once a month and washing them every so often).

Also, D2's do not carry a lifetime but a one year, the company blue is referring to is DGR. They've also changed how some tings work due to some prior issues they had had.

Think about searching for reviews after a few others are mentioned...but quality reviews rather than "it works or it doesn't".

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Old 02-05-2013, 05:15 PM   #4
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What's a cost on these d2
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:10 PM   #5
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Ive read a lot of reviews over the past week about bcs, kws, h&r, tein, tanabe...you name it. But the quality of the reviews is exactly as youve stated Mark. All the reviews are just debates about the best spring rate or how amazing xxx coilover rides. Some of the reviews i have seen have been how its been great through one winter and then they forget about the thread. Thia is why Ive had so much difficulty thus far...
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:24 PM   #6
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Check.latest YouTube of mighty car mods they installing a set of d2 onto a 180sx
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Will do, thank you sir! Anybody else have some input? I know there must be a lot of you running coilovers...
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:15 PM   #8
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I had a set of BC Racing coilovers on my 06 STi, after daily driving through two Chicago winters one of the adjustment collars was completely seized. I lubed it up before winter and washed the car pretty often too. I tried anything and everything I could but never got the collar unstuck.

I didn't mind the ride so much and they were mostly for cosmetic purposes (cough ricer cough) since it was my DD, but I was pretty pissed when I couldn't drop my car back down come spring time.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:25 PM   #9
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Very good to know as I've had a lot of recommendations of bc's among others in that range. Cosmetics are a big part for me - not so much the low but the ability to fit on larger wheel setups. Is the seizing covered under their warranty? I cant remember but i thought after a year is was like $95 to replace/rebuild or what not. A local shop to me has turned me on to Fortune Autos and I've read a fair amount of reviews on them - but again few long term quality reviews. Ah well. Thanks for the input! Really good stuff so far!
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Depends, the setups we sell have a bit different spring rate (the standard spring rates are a bit too soft) and you can also upgrade it to the APM Valving and Spring rate which is more tailored to AutoX and Road Race guys that'll use the cars on the street.

It'll retain street-ability while having the capabilities of track duty.

Or you can simply get the OTS models which the only note is to not go hella flush with them as the rear springs are made for comfort, not breaking your back.

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Ive read a lot of reviews over the past week about bcs, kws, h&r, tein, tanabe...you name it. But the quality of the reviews is exactly as youve stated Mark. All the reviews are just debates about the best spring rate or how amazing xxx coilover rides. Some of the reviews i have seen have been how its been great through one winter and then they forget about the thread. Thia is why Ive had so much difficulty thus far...
You'll find them eventually, there' just dug in because no one ever revives them, instead of searching they start a new one then it just gets lost into the interweb.

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I hope that this one guy can chime in eventually about his BC experience but I guess not. Locked and seized, leaking and loud.

Fortune auto coilovers are also a great unit, surprisingly there are 4 coilovers made in the same place, coated elsewhere and utilizing a different set of parts but it's all basically the same....thus the pricing being near identical. I installed a set of Fortunes a couple weeks ago (he insisted on it as it was a birthday gift he wanted on asap) and they're nice, I've dealt with them before but I had time to really check them out this time. I liked them, the coating seemed real nice too.

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Yeah I almost took the plunge on a set of their 510's cause a guy ordered the wrong rates but they were for a GR Sti so the feet wouldnt match up on my Wrx. Kind of a bummer. The 510's also have a longer warranty than average (5 years) so I feel their confident in their product/coatings. Ive seen them in person with all the bells and whistles - they seem as if theyd hold up well.
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Have you considered looking into RACELAND coilovers? I know some rally guys used them (so that means they get abused) and they seem to stand up. Also the price is very friendly
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Im not discounting the fact they may make a quality product - but seldom do cheap and quality cross paths in the automotive world, especially items like engine or suspension components. I wouldn't be comfortable having those on my car just from the cost standpoint. At the very least Id run BC just from the fact that so many others have and their proven to be decent for the money.
However as it stands now it looks like a Ss model would be best, so for my price range that would mean KW V1. Problem is they dont have selectable rates - they come standard. I know they have a reputation for being comfortable and a softer rate wont play nice with what Id like them for. I wish you could get custom rates for that price tag as overall they seem to be a very quality unit.
Hopefully someone else can maybe offer up a soloution as far as a set with a v1 quality with custom rates without the v3 pricetag...
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We've changed out the springs before for stiffer one....they belittle you for changing perfection but it has been done.

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We've changed out the springs before for stiffer one....they belittle you for changing perfection but it has been done.

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Yeah but by that time/price Id already be able to go up to the next tier of coilover at 2k+. Ugh, just want decent weather fairing coils that wont oxidize and rust the collars after a year that dont cost a ridiculous sum. I spend some time over at the 3g forum and guys over there prefer the Feal 441 to BCs over quality and it seems to have what im looking for. No concrere long term reviews though as their newer but Odi (who runs Feal) has quite the suspension history...hmm.
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I've been running my fortunes for almost 2 years now. Great coil setup never had a problem. I run them on street and auto cross. Only suggestion would to be go with the upgraded springs.
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Are you running 500s 510s or Dreadnaughts? And are you running them year round? I know your in the salt belt like me.
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Feal is a great high quality shock, don't know any long stuff with it but yeah...it's what will be the new "starting" type of racing coilovers IMO. Get them before they get into the Penske, Moton or Ohlins shock pricing! I'm kidding, not sure that ti'll ever get taht high but it's worth the moneys!

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I try to keep my coilovers lubricated/oiled - helps with corrosion. I typically use WD40 or a penetrating oil. It's worked pretty well for me in the past.
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Feal is a great high quality shock, don't know any long stuff with it but yeah...it's what will be the new "starting" type of racing coilovers IMO. Get them before they get into the Penske, Moton or Ohlins shock pricing! I'm kidding, not sure that ti'll ever get taht high but it's worth the moneys!

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Dont really see what sets the Feals apart from the other entry level coils though - im sure they share a lot of the same parts...hmm and Axel good to know, pretty easy maintenance by the sounds of it. Which brand did you have and how long did they last?
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