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Old 03-01-2013, 02:52 PM   #1
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Default Motion Lab Tuned 2012STi 491whp/540wtq BPT, DW, and Perrin tearing up the streets!!

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Dyno Type: DynoCom FX5000-AWD
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Boost: 23psi, 23psi, 25psi
Fuel: 93OCT, E85, and MS109 VP Racing fuel
Target AFR: 11.5:1, 12:1, 12:1
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Peak HP at RPM: 491awhp @ 5600 RPMs
Peak Torque at RPM: 540wtq @ 4400 RPMs
Transmission: STi 6Speed
Gear: 4th
Engine Management: Cobb AccessPort Speed Density software
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  • Blouch Performance Turbochargers 20G-XT turbo
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  • Perrin Performance Equal length manifold
  • Invidia catless downpipe
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  • Deatschwerks 1300cc injectors
  • Deatschwerks 320LPH fuel pump
  • Motion Lab Tuning custom Aeromotive FPR set-up
  • OmniPower 4BAR MAP sensor
  • Cobb Tuning AccessPort


This is an excellent example of utilizing the best parts on the market, and having one of the most experienced tuners around, gives you superior results. We had the opportunity to start fresh with this car. Its a 2012 STi that first arrived to us with 760mi on the clock. We have since made it into our highest power 20G car to date! The owner emailed us one day while deployed overseas for work. He had a budget in mind, and wanted to make the most power he could on the stock block. We used all the best parts that we have proven in the past to make superior power. We ultimately went with a Blouch Performance turbo 20G-XT turbocharger. We complimented that with the beautiful Process West TMIC. This thing is massive and definitely helped make the set-up more efficient by lowering the inlet air temps. We were of course going to need more fuel than the factory components could ever hope to supply, so we turned to our friends at Deatschwerks. We went with their 1300cc injectors and the 320LPH fuel pump kit. Then to finish the set-up out we installed an aeromotive fuel pressure regulator and did a nice clean custom mounting solution off the OEM TMIC bracket. Then we used some nice supporting mods from Perrin Performance such as their equal length manifold, 2" up-pipe (wrapped in HeatShield Products Lava wrap), and 3" turbo inlet to feed the 20G. Out the back we used Invidia catless downpipe going into a Q300 exhaust system. Picked up a Omni power 4bar map sensor, and the Cobb accessport to give it a little speed density love and on the dyno we go. After some discussion about getting more power over pump gas safely we decided to do both E85 and VP MS109 maps as well. The results speak for themselves. We were blown away with the peak power it made as well as how quickly it was spooling. He just picked up a set of Gunmetal Advan RS wheels 18x9 +38 wheels with Hankook RS-3 tires. Even with the sticky rubber the violent hit of torque causes wheel spin through 1st gear and into 2nd.

Only other mods on this car are TEIN SuperStreet coilovers w/ pillowball top hats and the awesome Stage1 HD Exedy clutch kit rated for 472ft/lbs @ the wheels. Luckily Exedy clutches ALWAYS hold more power than advertised so we should still be in good shape, haha. Next up on the list is a set of Manley Performance "TurboTuff" rods and Manley Performance 2618 forged pistons to make sure he can enjoy this power for years to come! Green lines are pump gas, Orange is the e85, and the Blue lines are the MS109 results. As I mentioned before this turbo was MAXED out by the time it was all said and done. We managed to gain torque, but the 49lb/min compressor was flowing its potential and had nothing left to give.


Final 93OCT HP/TQ Graph:


Final E85 HP/TQ Graph:


Final VP MS109 Graph:


Comparison graph of the 3 different fuels used during this session:


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Old 03-05-2013, 01:33 AM   #2
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Dam your dyno reads super HIGH.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:33 AM   #3
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Dam your dyno reads super HIGH.
To prevent having this conversation on every post, even though it hasn't been an issue on the majority of cars we've posted, please look through some of our other graphs to give you a good idea on how it reads. TD04 cars make 240-250, VF39/43/48 makes 300, and we have done plenty of other cars. You can also see a lot of graphs on our facebook.

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Old 03-05-2013, 06:35 PM   #4
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Dam your dyno reads super HIGH.
It doesn't matter if it reads high.. If you base your cars performance off other dyno plots ( from different company's ) , you wont get anywhere.

If he decides to add more power he will compare his results to this dyno to see his gains. Not go looking for someone with a similar setup on a different dyno.

This looks to be a great set-up. Thanks for the info on the stage one clutch kit!
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:44 AM   #5
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It doesn't matter if it reads high.. If you base your cars performance off other dyno plots ( from different company's ) , you wont get anywhere.

If he decides to add more power he will compare his results to this dyno to see his gains. Not go looking for someone with a similar setup on a different dyno.

This looks to be a great set-up. Thanks for the info on the stage one clutch kit!

Thanks for the comment. The Exedy Stage1 heavy duty is a great street clutch that will give you plenty of head room for a 20g or 30r set-up. You can rest assured your getting a quality clutch kit with a genuine Exedy product.

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Old 03-06-2013, 01:09 PM   #6
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Dam your dyno reads super HIGH.


Oh... he just joined last month...
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:21 PM   #7
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Oh... he just joined last month...

How do you know I just wasnt banned before and rejoined . I can bet that if he took it to the track and put up times agianst my car that made 450whp I would crush that car. Just sayin. Im not trying to start a argument but from what I read in a diff post after I posted im not the only one that thinks this.
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Old 03-07-2013, 06:21 AM   #8
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I would hope a BW8875 would crush a 20G. That is just physics that your turbo is going to move a lot more air. It will take longer to spool up, but have a greater top end.

As mentioned before, who cares if it is high, it is a tool to see where you were at before and after. Considering the VF39/48 makes ~300, I would agree it is slightly higher than some, but by no means is it a high reading dyno just to make people happy.

Looks like a fun car on the street to me.
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:53 AM   #9
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How do you know I just wasnt banned before and rejoined . I can bet that if he took it to the track and put up times agianst my car that made 450whp I would crush that car. Just sayin. Im not trying to start a argument but from what I read in a diff post after I posted im not the only one that thinks this.
What about this customer? http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2476545. We read lower than the superflow, haha. I'm not going to try and prove how our dyno reads, I think we have posted up enough graphs at this point for you to have a good bearing on it. You can see even more graphs on our facebook.

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Old 03-07-2013, 10:33 AM   #10
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This is beyond comical.

If you want to prove your dyno is accurate post up some time slips. Then the truth will be known.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:05 PM   #11
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This is beyond comical.

If you want to prove your dyno is accurate post up some time slips. Then the truth will be known.
Ok cool! Zmax will be open soon and this is a local customer!

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Old 03-07-2013, 01:14 PM   #12
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The hate is strong in this thread.

On a serious note, if I understand correctly, internals are on the list meaning not installed yet? This definitely seems like a lot of power for the stock block, but nonetheless, great numbers! Its good to see clean builds instead of a mush of stuff that doesn't work/ is half-assed.
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:19 PM   #13
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The hate is strong in this thread.

On a serious note, if I understand correctly, internals are on the list meaning not installed yet? This definitely seems like a lot of power for the stock block, but nonetheless, great numbers! Its good to see clean builds instead of a mush of stuff that doesn't work/ is half-assed.
We love working on cars that havent been previously molested. I hate having to clean up someone else mess. The parts are here and he is going out of the country in about 3-4 days which is when we will start working on getting the Manley TurboTuff rods, manley pistons, and acl bearings fitted. We will also be deleting the air pump to further clean up the engine bay. Using the killerb oil pick-up tube and that's pretty much all that's planned right now. Just wants to make the bottom end stand up to some punishment hes very happy with spool and power at this point so we will probably save the heads for any future upgrades to the turbo kit.

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Old 03-07-2013, 03:11 PM   #14
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1/4 mile and dyno numbers are different too. Track conditions elevation and of course driver. I mean there are so many variables and dyno is a tuning tool no need to bash. Anyway looks like a fun setup. Nice smooth power curve and that thing looks like a blast.
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Old 03-07-2013, 03:32 PM   #15
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1/4 mile and dyno numbers are different too. Track conditions elevation and of course driver. I mean there are so many variables and dyno is a tuning tool no need to bash. Anyway looks like a fun setup. Nice smooth power curve and that thing looks like a blast.
Exactly! Not everyone knows how to drive fast on a drag strip. I know this particular customer would love to take it out and see what it runs but i'm unsure of his driving backround. Its definitely making some power. It lights up the 255 Hankook RS-3 tires in 1st and continuing briefly into 2nd.

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Old 03-07-2013, 03:47 PM   #16
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You don't have to be John Force to get a good trap speed. If you suck at drag racing your ET will surely suffer, but in this case it's the trap speed that matters.

Honestly, if this car makes anywhere near the power you claim it does a trained monkey should be able to get a 125+ trap.

If the car actually does trap that high then you can come back and tell all of us skeptical haters to take a hike.
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You don't have to be John Force to get a good trap speed. If you suck at drag racing your ET will surely suffer, but in this case it's the trap speed that matters.

Honestly, if this car makes anywhere near the power you claim it does a trained monkey should be able to get a 125+ trap.

If the car actually does trap that high then you can come back and tell all of us skeptical haters to take a hike.

Na I wont do that, I don't wanna be mean like that. Hopefully if it does run a good trap we can all high five afterwards!

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You don't have to be John Force to get a good trap speed. If you suck at drag racing your ET will surely suffer, but in this case it's the trap speed that matters.

Honestly, if this car makes anywhere near the power you claim it does a trained monkey should be able to get a 125+ trap.

If the car actually does trap that high then you can come back and tell all of us skeptical haters to take a hike.
Your trap still suffers if you can't drive properly and there are other things that affect trap speed too. Weight elevation temperature etc. I'm not saying people shouldn't drag and if it has some ridiculously low trap then it is definitely not the power that it says it is. It's just that there is no standard for measuring power or even trap speeds since every track condition is different and all dynos read differently.
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:52 PM   #19
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Yes, I know there are innumerable excuses for a low trap.

Honestly, if you can't competently row through 5 gears without ****ing up you have no business driving a 500whp car.

I'll be looking forward to seeing some time slips this spring.
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Yes, I know there are innumerable excuses for a low trap.

Honestly, if you can't competently row through 5 gears without ****ing up you have no business driving a 500whp car.

I'll be looking forward to seeing some time slips this spring.
Lol. I am not making excuses I am just saying everyone saying take it to the track to prove something to some online tools is just not worth while. I ran a 12.8 at 106 with a 1.75 60' with tbe tune. I had 300whp on that dyno and now I got 500whp on my new setup. I'm too busy with school now to take time out of my day to prove anything to people I don't even know. But think what you want. Not everyone has the time to go to the track for a time slip and put excess wear on their car for no particular reason.
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Lol. I am not making excuses I am just saying everyone saying take it to the track to prove something to some online tools is just not worth while. I ran a 12.8 at 106 with a 1.75 60' with tbe tune. I had 300whp on that dyno and now I got 500whp on my new setup. I'm too busy with school now to take time out of my day to prove anything to people I don't even know. But think what you want. Not everyone has the time to go to the track for a time slip and put excess wear on their car for no particular reason.
Yeah some people cant handle the pressure of having people watch them drive.

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Lol. I am not making excuses I am just saying everyone saying take it to the track to prove something to some online tools is just not worth while. I ran a 12.8 at 106 with a 1.75 60' with tbe tune. I had 300whp on that dyno and now I got 500whp on my new setup. I'm too busy with school now to take time out of my day to prove anything to people I don't even know. But think what you want. Not everyone has the time to go to the track for a time slip and put excess wear on their car for no particular reason.
Do you go to school on the weekends?

You obviously have something to prove if you're posting a 1/4 mile time that you ran on your stock turbo, which has nothing to do with your new set up.
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Lol. I am not making excuses I am just saying everyone saying take it to the track to prove something to some online tools is just not worth while.
It actually is because people come here for help and to gain knowledge about setting up a car to where they want, and if the info that's being given out is wrong people want to know. I'm not saying it is I'm only explaining why people want the cars to go to the track bc your trap speed is everything when it comes to power. Nice numbers keep up the good work.
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It actually is because people come here for help and to gain knowledge about setting up a car to where they want, and if the info that's being given out is wrong people want to know. I'm not saying it is I'm only explaining why people want the cars to go to the track bc your trap speed is everything when it comes to power. Nice numbers keep up the good work.
^^^^+100% DYNO #'s don't mean schitt--if you want to prove that it really makes the power the dyno says it does the trap speed is the only true way to determine it PERIOD.good post georgie
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