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Old 02-08-2013, 09:53 AM   #1
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i drive a 08 wrx wagon, 53,xxx miles, manual transmission, z rated 225/45-17 continental extreme contact tires, stock suspension, rear adjustable whiteline 22mm sway bar, set to full soft, and rallitek endlinks front and rear.

about two months ago, my car started developing this tire binding/lurching effect when i was in or close to full lock, such as pulling in or out of a parking spot, and especially when doing a u turn on my street. it feels like when i have been in 4x4 and doing a tight turn on pavement in the toyota trucks i have owned. my street, where i park, has a pretty decent crown, and my house is in the middle of the block, with an upward incline to either direction. this happens in flat areas too, but seems more pronounced on even subtle inclines. my front tires are starting to show pretty rough wear on the outside edges.

so i took it into the dealership two weeks ago; they aligned it, rotated the tires, replaced the worn power steering pump belt, and replaced the power steering fluid. it helped a lot, but is still happening somewhat, and is starting to get pretty noticeable again.

could this be a drivetrain issue? failing wheel bearing? viscous coupler? a strut issue? no more mister nice guy? a crappy alignment? (hands free steering is pulling slightly) i plan to take back in, but was hoping for more ammo to give them...

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-13-2013, 12:58 PM   #2
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i noticed it seems worse on cold mornings... anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:50 PM   #3
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anyone have any suggestions? hope to be making an appt with the dealership that looked at prior...
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Old 02-28-2013, 03:02 PM   #4
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Certainly sounds like a diff issue. How could the dealer not recognize that from your description?
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:35 PM   #5
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Certainly sounds like a diff issue. How could the dealer not recognize that from your description?
yeah, no kidding. the service rep i dealt with last time liked to talk more than listen. i have an appt for tomorrow, so i hope to get it nailed down. thanks for the suggestion.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:27 PM   #6
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Mine is having the same problem. It started doing it about 2 days ago and I've had a few people check it out and they cant figure it out. It's way worse in the mornings when it's colder.

I'm taking it in to the dealership today, if they say anything different or fix it i'll let you know.
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:17 PM   #7
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yeah, i think mine is worse in the cold mornings too. i took mine in again today, and they still can't get it to reproduce the problem. i even went back down there to drive it myself to try to demonstrate it, and of course it was acting fine. it does it all the time though!

let me know if they figure anything out for you. i'm headed down there to pick it up after they give it time to sit and try again. i'm at a loss for a cause or solution. maybe the viscous coupler?
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:18 AM   #8
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my power steering fluid reservoir was almost gone, i filled it up and its been fine, it will still do it if i straighten the wheel out when i park sometimes though. Im just watching for leaks and what not and if it keeps kinda doing it im going to take it back.
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:51 PM   #9
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my power steering fluid reservoir was almost gone, i filled it up and its been fine, it will still do it if i straighten the wheel out when i park sometimes though. Im just watching for leaks and what not and if it keeps kinda doing it im going to take it back.
hmm, interesting. when they changed my fluid, they said it was just super dirty, not low. they also said my belt was worn out. those changes helped, but it did come back.

i took it in on friday, and it OF COURSE would not do it while it was at the shop. they tried a few times, and i even went down there to drive it for the tech. no dice. i can't figure out why it is intermittent. maybe the cold weather brings it out...?
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:35 PM   #10
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Leave it at the dealer overnight and have them test drive it in the morning while it still cold maybe, since you said it seems more common when cold.

It certainly sounds like center diff issues from your explanation.

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Leave it at the dealer overnight and have them test drive it in the morning while it still cold maybe, since you said it seems more common when cold.

It certainly sounds like center diff issues from your explanation.

-Anthony
that's a good suggestion. i think i will try that next. it drove fine this morning and it sat all day saturday and sunday. it's been super nice for the past few days too. high 40s to low 50s in the day, and maybe high 20s at night? it was about 35 this morning, at 6:30am.

it's snowing now, and is supposed to get down to 12 tonight, so it really will be a good test tomorrow morning.
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Please let me know what you find out as I'm having a similar issue.
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I would say it's the viscous coupler. I have an '03 and it was doing the exact same thing. I went to the dealership in Greenville, S.C. and they confirmed that it was in fact a bad viscous coupler. It was a 1200ish dollar repair. STI cars don't have this part but WRX's do. It's basically a center diff. I'm not a diff expert but I have some 4x4 experience and I had the same thoughts when I noticed it...when I had the steering wheel turned all the way one way or another it would kinda bump, like pulling in a tight parking space. Apparently it can get really bad after a while but mine never did. I kept the part if you wanna see it. Hope that helps a little.
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I'm only noticing it happens after a cold start. I brought it to the dealership and they couldn't reproduce it, even when I drove with the tech in the passenger seat. I have a 2012 impreza 2.0 CVT.
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:59 AM   #15
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I would say it's the viscous coupler. I have an '03 and it was doing the exact same thing. I went to the dealership in Greenville, S.C. and they confirmed that it was in fact a bad viscous coupler. It was a 1200ish dollar repair. STI cars don't have this part but WRX's do. It's basically a center diff. I'm not a diff expert but I have some 4x4 experience and I had the same thoughts when I noticed it...when I had the steering wheel turned all the way one way or another it would kinda bump, like pulling in a tight parking space. Apparently it can get really bad after a while but mine never did. I kept the part if you wanna see it. Hope that helps a little.
hmm, thanks. that's what i've been suspecting. since i can't reproduce it and i am trying to get it fixed using my extended warranty, they don't want to starting changing stuff without seeing the issue first hand. it definitely feels just like doing a tight turn in a 4x4.

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I'm only noticing it happens after a cold start. I brought it to the dealership and they couldn't reproduce it, even when I drove with the tech in the passenger seat. I have a 2012 impreza 2.0 CVT.
i've suspected the temperature, but haven't seen a direct correlation. also after sitting a few days it did it a bit, but then the next time it sat a few days it didn't do it at all. overall it's been better, but it has been getting warmer...

that's a bummer you're experiencing that on such a new car! my girlfriend has a 2012 impreza sport with the cvt and it works great. my previous 02 obs had 190k and it never had this happen... though i did fry the rear diff driving it 70 miles home on the stupid donut, with the correct pressure and not going over 55. i wish my full size spare fit better in my 08. grumble grumble grumble.
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