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Old 02-09-2013, 04:07 PM   #26
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interesting story. Glad things are being taken cared of legally. Be safe out there.
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:10 PM   #27
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And what, rally-x isn't "hardcore" enough for you to stop feeling like you're better than these guys for having fun with their cars?

Did you miss the part where it was some douche in an Audi that hit a parked, empty car and took off? I mean, I see your point about it being inherently dangerous to be out doing stuff like this but this was a hit and run.
The implication is that this is what you should expect when you hang out with a bunch of clowns of questionable "talent" pretending they're racecar drivers in the middle of the night.

Anyway, have fun with this one. Unless you were in a city owned parking lot, the cops won't be able to do much for you here since I'm assuming it was private property. Unless you can get the kid to admit to it, your friend is going to have to contact his insurance and have them go after the kid, where it will ultimately be your friend's word against his. And I'm sure they'll be thrilled to learn the circumstances surrounding this little incident, so he shouldn't be surprised if his insurance drops him.
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:23 PM   #28
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Just wondering - if one of the guys in a WRX had lost control and hit another WRX, what would that make him?

If he had taken off, would he only be a partial douche, since he was in a WRX and not an Audi? Or does taking off in anything qualify you for full douche status?

Just think, if you guys hadn't been screwing around in a snowy parking lot, nobody would have been hit.
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:33 PM   #29
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No one is pretending anything. Everyone is just out there to have fun, (real, actual fun, you know?), and some of them happen to have a bit of competitive experience. It's a risk everyone knowingly takes, but the understanding is that if something goes wrong, you handle it responsibly. Then this audi shows up, (not with us at all) and hits a parked car and takes off. And this didn't happen at "the track", it happened in a wide open parking lot somewhere else. Car parked and unoccupied. Audi driver hit it and took off.

So stop being so judgmental and acting all "I told you so" when the reality of what happened is anything but. I wouldn't have even posted this if they just handled it responsibly. Instead, this is a felony, with a fine and possible jail time.

The police are now involved; they have the name, the plate number, the initial report from last night, and have now taken a statement from the witnesses, acquired facebook pictures of the car w/ plate number, etc.

And what does the "circumstances surrounding this little incident" have to with it? His car was parked and unoccupied and some idiot slammed into it and took off.

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Just wondering - if one of the guys in a WRX had lost control and hit another WRX, what would that make him?
I don't know? I'd have to see how the two gentlemen handled the situation...?

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If he had taken off, would he only be a partial douche, since he was in a WRX and not an Audi? Or does taking off in anything qualify you for full douche status?
Full douche status. That's a felony.

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Just think, if you guys hadn't been screwing around in a snowy parking lot, nobody would have been hit
So it's the WRX owner's moral fault for being parked in the lot, and not the audi driver who hit the WRX and then took off, illegally?

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Old 02-09-2013, 05:08 PM   #30
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Just wondering - if one of the guys in a WRX had lost control and hit another WRX, what would that make him?

If he had taken off, would he only be a partial douche, since he was in a WRX and not an Audi? Or does taking off in anything qualify you for full douche status?

Just think, if you guys hadn't been screwing around in a snowy parking lot, nobody would have been hit.
That's some nice victim blaming you're doing there. Why so defensive of someone that was obviously in the wrong?
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:40 PM   #31
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Another fact on the drivers that were there that night. Some of them have had actual driver training on how to handle a vehicle in adverse conditions. While some are just out there getting the feel for it a good number do actually know how to drive.

Rallycross in New England isn't good enough for you? Please, you must be from a warmer section of the country that only sees gravel rallyx events.

Also, if one of the people there hit another person then it wouldn't have taken all the searching it did to find the person. Going out in a group of people that everyone knows a couple of the other guys is actually smart.

So, if you want to criticize people which you do not know, pass knowledgeable judgement and portray yourself as naive go ahead. But just remember, that doesn't make friends. So my advice is to hold it to yourself.

Have a nice day.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:18 PM   #32
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Another fact on the drivers that were there that night. Some of them have had actual driver training on how to handle a vehicle in adverse conditions. While some are just out there getting the feel for it a good number do actually know how to drive.

Rallycross in New England isn't good enough for you? Please, you must be from a warmer section of the country that only sees gravel rallyx events.

Also, if one of the people there hit another person then it wouldn't have taken all the searching it did to find the person. Going out in a group of people that everyone knows a couple of the other guys is actually smart.

So, if you want to criticize people which you do not know, pass knowledgeable judgement and portray yourself as naive go ahead. But just remember, that doesn't make friends. So my advice is to hold it to yourself.

Have a nice day.
So by that rationale, since I auto-x and have quite a bit of drag racing experience at the legal strip, it qualifies me to do the same in a public place or on private property like a big parking lot? Interesting.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:27 PM   #33
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So by that rationale, since I auto-x and have quite a bit of drag racing experience at the legal strip, it qualifies me to do the same in a public place or on private property like a big parking lot? Interesting.
Qualified how? That's such a loaded comment. I don't even...

The exact criticism was that all of these people were "pretending to be rally drivers", implying that we're all inexperienced. Which isn't true.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:33 PM   #34
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So by that rationale, since I auto-x and have quite a bit of drag racing experience at the legal strip, it qualifies me to do the same in a public place or on private property like a big parking lot? Interesting.
Oh, you saw that he stated they were qualified to be there too?

:thumbsup:

All the e-heroes coming in here with such high end constructive criticism on the bad kids enjoying the weather.

Its a real life situation. **** happens and it won't be the last time it does. Take care of it and move on.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:14 PM   #35
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When you called the cops, did you tell them you were a part of "about 17 subies romping around in the snow, slip-sliding around town in abandoned parking lots and such"?

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Another reason not to hang out in parking lots with kids pretending they're rally car drivers....
This times eleventy billion.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:18 PM   #36
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Oh, you saw that he stated they were qualified to be there too?

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All the e-heroes coming in here with such high end constructive criticism on the bad kids enjoying the weather.

Its a real life situation. **** happens and it won't be the last time it does. Take care of it and move on.
Crap does happen, but if a whole bunch of cars weren't in a parking lot doing ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, (yes, it is illegal and they would have been in trouble if the cops came and caught them messing in the snow) then it's a different situation. None of this would have happened if awesome rally drivers weren't being awesome rally drivers in a public space, endangering others.

E-heroes? Sure some of the are hypocritical, but at the same time I should remind you of the FORUM RULES that talk specifically about illegal activities and this site. Read me as a nice referesher.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:36 PM   #37
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I don't know about how its gonna work out for you but. Here in Saskatoon me and a few buddies were doing the same thing this weekend. Random civic pulls in, hits one of our cars drives off. We got the plate and everything. We admitted to the cops that we were screwing around in the parking lot. They told us and I'm quoting "Keep it in the abandoned parking lots, and off the roads. But don't lie if you crash your car and need to get insurance claims".. They eventually found the civic driver and everything worked out for the best.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:27 PM   #38
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Crap does happen, but if a whole bunch of cars weren't in a parking lot doing ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, (yes, it is illegal and they would have been in trouble if the cops came and caught them messing in the snow) then it's a different situation. None of this would have happened if awesome rally drivers weren't being awesome rally drivers in a public space, endangering
Technically, yes, the wrx was there because we all were there to enjoy the snow, but the wrx was parked and empty, and it was a lone Audi that was not in control of their vehicle, and then they ended up doing a hit and run.

Everyone is throwing around criticism as if our actions caused this. The only fault of the wrx was being in that exact wrong place at the wrong time, (as in, 3 ft to the left and everything would have been fine). And there were a few abandoned vehicles in the very outskirts of the lot, so this exact scenario could have happened to one of those non fault cars, at the hands of this Audi, and no one would have known.

And as for illegality, it's entirely up to the discretion of any law enforcement officer who may encounter them, as it is subjective. It's on the books as such for that reason basically. If the cop decides he'd rather see you leave, they will tell you to leave. I they don't see a threat to private property or and no one cares, they often let you be.
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for some reason, i keep thinking of this:



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Like I said, you should expect stuff like this to happen when you go out in the middle of the night and dick around with complete strangers. Hooning around by yourself is one thing, going out and setting up an "event" and a "track" with door to door racing is another thing entirely.

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To all the guys that are saying dumb s**t about messing around in the snow... If u can't see that the boy in the s4 should have done the right thing and took responsibly for his actions then shut the f**k up and get your heads out your a**. Just because you can't drive and are scared to go have some fun in the snow. Don't act like u have to be a pro rally driver to have some fun. How do u think rally drivers started driving any way???? That they never once had some fun with friends in a parking lot??? Any way good luck guys hope this s4 guy gets what's coming to him
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:51 PM   #42
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The implication is that this is what you should expect when you hang out with a bunch of clowns of questionable "talent" pretending they're racecar drivers in the middle of the night.

Anyway, have fun with this one. Unless you were in a city owned parking lot, the cops won't be able to do much for you here since I'm assuming it was private property. Unless you can get the kid to admit to it, your friend is going to have to contact his insurance and have them go after the kid, where it will ultimately be your friend's word against his. And I'm sure they'll be thrilled to learn the circumstances surrounding this little incident, so he shouldn't be surprised if his insurance drops him.
I bet you are a real fun guy! Jeesh man, sounds like the Nanny State has you and a couple of others all nice, safe, secure and warm in your onesies. It is called "risk", makes life a little less beige. I bet some of you guys trundle along in the left lane doing 1 over the speed limit saying "I am going the speed limit, so they should to, blah blah blah". If you do not obey EVERY law all the time, then you have nothing to say. You need to go get yourself a KIA or something!

OP. looks like fun BTW, I wish we could get some of that stuff down here more often! F the police!
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Crap does happen, but if a whole bunch of cars weren't in a parking lot doing ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, (yes, it is illegal and they would have been in trouble if the cops came and caught them messing in the snow) then it's a different situation. None of this would have happened if awesome rally drivers weren't being awesome rally drivers in a public space, endangering others.

E-heroes? Sure some of the are hypocritical, but at the same time I should remind you of the FORUM RULES that talk specifically about illegal activities and this site. Read me as a nice referesher.
This. Why are you guys still arguing about this?

Yes, we all break the law.

No, we don't discuss it on NASIOC.
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To all the guys that are saying dumb s**t about messing around in the snow... If u can't see that the boy in the s4 should have done the right thing and took responsibly for his actions then shut the f**k up and get your heads out your a**. Just because you can't drive and are scared to go have some fun in the snow. Don't act like u have to be a pro rally driver to have some fun. How do u think rally drivers started driving any way???? That they never once had some fun with friends in a parking lot??? Any way good luck guys hope this s4 guy gets what's coming to him
Very well said slayer44wagon
If I drive around in a snow storm having fun I KNOW I'm taking a risk, common sense... but like you said if something happens be a man and handle the situation, don't run from it like a *****
Don't really understand where all these negative comments are coming from.
It's called FUN you should try it sometime
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:12 PM   #45
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idiots in parking lots ... wrecking into each other and crying about it



at least you didn't hit the curb and drop your BMW "into the planters" .. or whatever that was a couple weeks ago in here
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You have to admit we all go out and do this sometimes. If we got all that snow I know I'd be out in it
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I bet you are a real fun guy! Jeesh man, sounds like the Nanny State has you and a couple of others all nice, safe, secure and warm in your onesies. It is called "risk", makes life a little less beige. I bet some of you guys trundle along in the left lane doing 1 over the speed limit saying "I am going the speed limit, so they should to, blah blah blah". If you do not obey EVERY law all the time, then you have nothing to say. You need to go get yourself a KIA or something!

OP. looks like fun BTW, I wish we could get some of that stuff down here more often! F the police!
^^^ this is precisely the amoral attitude rotting our country from the inside out. Congrats!
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I bet you are a real fun guy! Jeesh man, sounds like the Nanny State has you and a couple of others all nice, safe, secure and warm in your onesies. It is called "risk", makes life a little less beige. I bet some of you guys trundle along in the left lane doing 1 over the speed limit saying "I am going the speed limit, so they should to, blah blah blah". If you do not obey EVERY law all the time, then you have nothing to say. You need to go get yourself a KIA or something!

OP. looks like fun BTW, I wish we could get some of that stuff down here more often! F the police!

I don't know that you understood what faastlegacy was trying to say. So, let me try and clear it up for you.

From what I read, faastlegacy actually does acknowledged that this is a risky behavior and when you go do stuff like this you should expect that some things will go wrong. That is very clear, and I think both of you are in agreement on that. What faastlegacy was trying to bring up was the fact that the owner of the car may have a hard time actually getting results, from either the police or his insurance company, when the figure out what he was likely there to do.

I am going to bet insurance companies don't actually like to pay out settlements, and if they think they have a good reason not to, it will be pretty hard to fight them on it. That is what we are trying to get at here. This isn't about whether or not people shouldn't take risks or not.

Regardless of what we think, the owner of the car probably has an uphill battle to in-regards to getting this resolved in his favor.

Now I'm not sure what that last part of your comment has anything to do with this thread. If anything he is trying to work with the police not fight them .

If you want anything else clarified I would be happy to do that for you. Especially if it would decrease any needlessly aggressive replies.

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^^^ this is precisely the amoral attitude rotting our country from the inside out. Congrats!
Why not just say that you disagree with his statement in that behavior like this can be dangerous to themselves and those around them? Why do you have to say "congrats"? You completely succeeded at sounding like a dick.
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