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Old 10-22-2013, 06:03 AM   #51
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Aren't the blue filters made by Fram? Doesn't Fram suck?


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Old 10-22-2013, 07:33 AM   #52
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Aren't the blue filters made by Fram? Doesn't Fram suck? -Beach
Yes (Honeywell actually). No.

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Old 10-24-2013, 07:25 PM   #53
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Well, I checked today and the part number is the same. I'm unsure of the freaking date, I wasn't even interested to see it as the part number is the same and I'm obviously having an oil leak at the filter (I whipped it down in this pic...but you can see the leak at the o-ring).

The the dealer installed this...if it is the date that should not have been installed...this is sad, as I had my oil changed by them about a month ago.

Here's a pic...oh, I just happened to check my oil a week ago (it hadn't been long since the oil change) and my dip stick showed zero oil! My car was running fine. I then filled it up to the almost full line last week...it is now at the low part..wow. How do I know this hasn't messed up my motor...

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Old 10-25-2013, 10:37 AM   #54
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There are some videos on Youtube of Fram oil filters cut open to show how poorly they are made. Has anyone cut open a Subie OEM filter to have a look-see?
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Old 10-25-2013, 04:25 PM   #55
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There are some videos on Youtube of Fram oil filters cut open to show how poorly they are made. Has anyone cut open a Subie OEM filter to have a look-see?
Yes, about 345 times

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Old 10-26-2013, 06:05 AM   #56
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There are some videos on Youtube of Fram oil filters cut open to show how poorly they are made. Has anyone cut open a Subie OEM filter to have a look-see?
I sure as hell am not using one anymore after this fiasco

So may i'll cut open mine
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Old 10-26-2013, 08:47 AM   #57
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I'm at the dealer now (wilkins Subaru) they are telling me these filters are okay to use in certain vehicles...yet the info I read says for all Subaru that use this filter. Wow...stay away from Wilkins Subaru. I'm waiting for the to attempt to prove me wrong.
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:19 AM   #58
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:02 PM   #59
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Subaru OEM filters are fram? Hmmm I see "honeywell" stamped on my filter... and honeywell owns fram... yikes! I had one internally collapse on my 74 AMC Javelin (360 4bbl, 4sp, 3.54s)
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:41 AM   #60
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Okay, I found the information. I wouldn't use the blue Subaru filters myself. They are just re-branded Fram. Pretty much anything else is better (not including the other Fram made off-brands of course). No sense in having brand-loyalty to Subaru for this kind of thing.
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Old 10-28-2013, 12:33 PM   #61
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I ran OEM blue Subaru filters exclusively for over 100,000miles. There's nothing wrong with them.

A lot of you guys are getting all scared of some hypothetical scenario that I've yet to see happen on these cars.

Can anyone show me a single case where the OEM blue filter directly caused an engine failure? That is ignoring the recall that Subaru already addressed. But there's nothing wrong with any of the others. Sure they might be lower build quality, but who cares.

Does it still filter oil sufficiently? Yes.
Does it last the 3000-8000 mi OCI? Yes.

Then what more do you want?
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:30 PM   #62
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I don't understand why you people get so bat**** crazy about the oil filters. A good Bosch, mobil, or purolator filter will be as good as, if not better than the ones you pay $30 for from the dealer.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:05 PM   #63
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I don't understand why you people get so bat**** crazy about the oil filters. A good Bosch, mobil, or purolator filter will be as good as, if not better than the ones you pay $30 for from the dealer.
This is my thought too. As for Fram, its not conjecture that cardboard end-caps, plastic bypass valves and poor attention to QC are more likely to result in oil filter-related engine failure. If you want to play Russian roulette with your engine, more power to you brutha!
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:37 PM   #64
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Thanks for the heads up OP, I'll be checking my stockpile of filters tonight.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:35 PM   #65
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I always heard wix was the way to go ever since i had my fords.
But as soon as i was reading what filters the best everyone says oem subaru filters because of the bypass pressure.
Whats the big deal and if the filter was designed for the cars application shouldnt after market be designed similar and be the same pressure spec?
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