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Old 02-11-2013, 10:30 PM   #1
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Default kinugawa turbo?

After doing some reasearch ive decided I'm gonna go with one of these turbos. Now my question is I wanna go with a 20g but they have 3 different options.

Td05h td06h or td06sl2 I wants power I'm not to worried about spool. 7 or 8cm turbine?
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:41 PM   #2
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20g is kinda big for a 2.0 it going to make power way up in the rpm range.no bottom end. i just did a 16gxt on mine and it spools nice and has lot of boost for top end.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:58 PM   #3
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I want to beat v8s I was told I need a 20g turbo for that
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:31 AM   #4
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I ran a td06-20g on mine, It spooled at 4k and made 325 whp. It was fun and not laggy if you know how to drive,
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:34 AM   #5
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I ran a td06-20g on mine, It spooled at 4k and made 325 whp. It was fun and not laggy if you know how to drive,
You also are a 2.1 stroker with cams and meth.

If you have a stock 2.0, a td05h 20g with an 8cm hotside would be really stellar provided you can run e85 and not worry about the trans.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:00 AM   #6
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I want to beat v8s I was told I need a 20g turbo for that
Dude.. my stock fv38 twinscroll 2.0 will run head to head with a 5L V8 up to about 100mph.. then the V8 eats me. Small turbo. 3.5k stall, auto.

From the lights, (I mean the dragway lights on a 20g turbo... you'd take a good precious seconds to hit the 4.5-5k rpm you'd need to just spool it... the V8 would get nearly 100-150 yards on you before you hit boost.
After the 20g comes on you would b ****ing flying.. but you gotta catch up a long way and it's not cool on saturday night fast food cruises. I don't use the 160+ mph range much though. I might be an idiot. heh

16g is awesome. 18g if you wanna go racing. 20g for dyno numbers.

I'd reccommend a 18g td05 for maximum lolz.

Edit:- Also 20g, td06.. you'll stress your engine to pieces if you hitting 400-500hp/Stupid torque, every time the tacho hits 5k (full boost)..gear change at 7k+.. fun but only for a short while before you gota fix it I think. And you gotta get to high revs to enjoy it.

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Old 02-12-2013, 09:46 AM   #7
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So a 18g would be the biggest turbo to for the steet? A td05 20g would be to big?
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:48 AM   #8
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I ran a td06 20g, 8cm hotside on my 2.0l. The lag wasnt anything to cry about. If you get a good tune from someone that knows how to make a larger turbo spool up better, you wont be disappointed. I would get full spool in 4th at 4250 and rev to over 7k on my stock motor. Did a best of 11.6 @ 122 with that setup on my car, totally stock engine.. Oh, and it made 346whp with the internal wastegate. I never got to dyno it with the external and meth on the car. The 346 was with 22psi.
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:24 AM   #9
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I want a 20g because I dont wanna look back and wish I would have gone bigger. I will also do ewg. Would the 18g or td05-06 20g be better for the street
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I ran a td06 20g, 8cm hotside on my 2.0l. The lag wasnt anything to cry about. If you get a good tune from someone that knows how to make a larger turbo spool up better, you wont be disappointed. I would get full spool in 4th at 4250 and rev to over 7k on my stock motor. Did a best of 11.6 @ 122 with that setup on my car, totally stock engine.. Oh, and it made 346whp with the internal wastegate. I never got to dyno it with the external and meth on the car. The 346 was with 22psi.
Your engine still runs with that same setup or did you change setup?
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1. You have not read http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1218459
2. You obviously don't know if you are afoot or horseback on turbos, so you NEED to research.
3. I can list probably 200 4 cylinder cars that will beat you regardless of what turbo you have....you set GOALS with your car in terms of WHP and go after them, not "beating V8s".
4. You are obviously young....take some sage advice: Research twice, purchase once....otherwise you will be throwing good money after bad.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:28 AM   #12
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Your engine still runs with that same setup or did you change setup?
I ran it like that for a few years, prolly 100+ passes on the car with the 20g on it. Its mainly my track car, but I do DD it when I get bored with driving my truck all the time lol.. Still got really good gas mileage in the car!


I ended up finally killing it using the GroupN rom with the aggressive launch control. Was having too much fun doing 4 wheel burnouts and spun a rod bearing eventually. Im putting a LGT motor and drivetrain next weekend.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:38 AM   #13
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A TD05H 20g will be fine for any 2.0 with spool in the 3750 range and 320whp...
A TD06 20g is as big as I would go for the 2.0 motor as it would put you around 4k spool and can reach 320+ whp with room to grow!

The 20g in any variation loves boost so 22psi is just waking it up. If you have the balls to run 24-25psi you'll be very surprised at what this turbo can produce! I've run this turbo in both these configurations and to be honest it is the only turbo I regret selling...

You choose and be happy cause E85, meth, etc will only net more gains cause a basic bolt on 2.0 will not max out any 20g turbo!
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If you are wondering about the brand, I hear plenty of members use their turbos and are happy...
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Ppayer38: so you recommend the td05 20g over the td06 20g for a 2.0 dd. I'm putting in the order today
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:53 PM   #16
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If you dont plan on just drag racing the car the td05 will respond a bit better on the street vs the td06 version and you wont be giving up a ton of power doing so. I vote that as well if you want a fast street driver. After tuning numbers of cars with VF39's and 52's on them and then doing the 16g's and HTA68's, I still recommend people get the 20g when they ask. It doesn't disappoint!
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:55 PM   #17
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It also gives me the option of 7 and 8cm turbine housing and a urgraded billet wheel
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The 7cm will work fine for what you are doing. I have no first hand experience with a billet wheel in one but typically they will help get you a lil more response as is lightens the rotating assembly!
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Awesome thank you I just ordered it. While I have this turbo pulled out should I go ahead and do ewg. Right now I have the stock boost control.
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:26 PM   #20
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I guess I couldn't convince you to buy my 16g 8cm?
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I want to beat v8s I was told I need a 20g turbo for that
This just reminds me of an xtranormal video
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:46 PM   #22
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Awesome thank you I just ordered it. While I have this turbo pulled out should I go ahead and do ewg. Right now I have the stock boost control.
I made 343 with the internal WG setup on it. I wish I had dyno'd it again with the EWG to see what I gained. Its not hurting anything leaving it IWG tho. I love the sound of EWG setups tho

Here's a speedo/tach vid with the EWG setup on the car -
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20g is kinda big for a 2.0 it going to make power way up in the rpm range.no bottom end. i just did a 16gxt on mine and it spools nice and has lot of boost for top end.
u can try 20g twinscroll setup. that would make ups for the lack of spool
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:23 PM   #24
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Well you ordered the turbo what about all the supporting mods.
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Street drivability+TD05H 20g 8cm=ej205 heaven!
TD06/TD06H 20g 8cm+ej207=race car!

Do not get a 7cm as it is pointless...
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