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Old 04-24-2015, 04:02 PM   #1
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Mazda performance fans rejoice: motoring.com.au has learned the Japanese brand will finally confirm plans to revive its long-dormant MPS go-faster brand at the Frankfurt motor show in September.

The MPS comeback will debut in the form of a Mazda3 MPS hot hatch concept, which will morph into a production model relatively quickly, powered by a new 2.5-litre turbocharged engine delivering up to 220kW, as part of a midlife makeover for the Mazda3.

What's more, the same new turbo-petrol four will exclusively power Mazda's second-generation CX-9, which we can reveal will make its world debut at the Los Angeles motor show in November.

And in more future model news, Mazda is set to revive its CX-7 nameplate on an all-new SUV that will follow the new CX-9, in the form of a stretched CX-5 with a 5+2 seating arrangement.

We expect the born-again CX-7 to surface sometime next year, when it will join the full-size CX-9 seven-seater in an expanded Mazda SUV model range that will by then comprise four models, including the new CX-3 city-crossover and top-selling CX-5 mid-sizer.

Unlike the discontinued five-seat CX-7, the new seven-seater will be powered by a range of efficient four-cylinder petrol and diesel engines from the CX-5, and priced between it and the CX-9 from under $50,000.

It's understood Mazda — like Mitsubishi with its long-running Outlander, Nissan with its latest X-TRAIL and Land Rover with its new Discovery Sport — has recognised demand for a seven-seat mid-sizer as SUV sales continue to boom globally.

On the possibility of a new seven-seat CX-7, Mazda Australia marketing director Alastair Doak recently told us: "If Mazda was to develop such a product, of course we'd put our hands up."

Doak would not comment on the reincarnation of Mazda's MPS performance brand, which has been the subject of speculation since the last MPS model, the previous-generation Mazda3, was killed off two years ago.

However, Australia is Mazda's fourth largest market globally and the local outfit has consistently lobbied its parent company for the revival of higher-performance versions of its core passenger models.

The MPS nameplate was first seen on the Mazda6 between 2005 and 2007, then the Mazda3 between 2006 and 2013. Both were powered by the same 190kW/380Nm 2.3-litre inline four-cylinder turbo-petrol engine that powered the old CX-7.

We expect Mazda will follow up the 2016 Mazda3 MPS with an all-new Mazda6 MPS by 2017 — also part of an upgraded mid-cycle model range — powered by the same new 2.5-litre turbo engine, development of which was necessitated by the downsizing of the current CX-9's V6 to a turbo-petrol four.

Mazda has also hinted its new-generation MPS range may also grow to include the new MX-5, and a Mazda MPS is also a possibility to compete with light-size hot hatches such as the Volkswagen Polo GTI, Ford Fiesta ST, Renault Clio RS and Peugeot 208 GTi.

Unlike the previous Mazda3 hot hatch and any potential MX-5 MPS, however, both the new Mazda3 and 6 MPS are likely to be all-wheel drive.

That means Mazda's first and most popular new MPS model could be positioned above front-drive small performance hatches like Ford's facelifted 184kW Ford Focus ST ($38,990), Renault's 195kW-plus Megane RS (from $43,990), Volkswagen's 162kW Golf GTI (from $41,990), which comprises about 20 per cent of all Golf sales here, and Honda's new 228kW Civic Type-R due here in 2017.

Indeed, if the 3 MPS is reincarnated with 220kW, AWD and a circa- $50K pricetag, it would become Mazda's first direct rival for the likes of Volkswagen's 206kW Golf R and the 221kW Subaru WRX STI – and the perfect entree to a born-again rotary sports flagship rumoured to launch by 2020.
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Old 04-24-2015, 04:03 PM   #2
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Old 04-24-2015, 04:55 PM   #3
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The MPS comeback will debut in the form of a Mazda3 MPS hot hatch concept,
Your move, Subaru.
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:36 PM   #4
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Still nothing more than speculation. When it comes to Mazda, I will believe it when I see it.
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Old 04-25-2015, 02:08 AM   #5
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Your move, Subaru.
Subaru has had several hatch "concepts"....
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A Japanese report has claimed Mazda will produce a hot turbocharged 2.5-litre MPS version of Australia’s most popular small car – complete with all-wheel drive for the first time –

The surprise news comes from Holiday Auto magazine, which quotes inside sources as saying a turbo version of Mazda’s largest four-cylinder SKYACTIV engine will be ready for release in the new Mazda3 MPS hot hatch in 2016.

While that timing would coincide with a midlife makeover for the third-generation Mazda3, launched in Australia early this year, a version of the turbocharged 2.5-litre MPS engine could also see duty in Mazda’s next CX-9.

The latter is expected to debut at the Los Angeles motor show in November and – along with the new MX-5, which will also be revealed this year – will mark the renewal of Mazda’s entire model range based on SKYACTIV body, chassis and engine technology.

As such, the new CX-9 will be lighter, which should negate the need for V6 power, even in the US. Mazda stopped developing V6 engines in the late 1990s and employs a Ford V6 in the current CX-9, but has indicated the new model will offer either straight-six or turbo-four power and will again eschew a diesel engine.

A 2.5-litre turbo-four could provide the answer not only for the Mazda3 MPS and CX-9 but, potentially, a new-generation Mazda6 MPS.

Mazda does not currently offer any MPS models as it’s yet to produce MPS versions of either the Mazda3 or 6. It has consistently said it will not do so until it has completed the replacement of its core volume models, including the Mazda6, 3 and 2, which will be launched here later this year.

On sale from September, the Mazda3 diesel sports hatch is expected to be far more popular than the previous manual-only Mazda3 Diesel, which accounted for less than one per cent of sales.

While the next Mazda3 MPS hot hatch should remain manual-only, according to Holiday Auto it will be fitted with all-wheel drive for the first time. That would make it less of a handful to drive than its front-drive predecessor, which was powered by a 190kW/380Nm 2.3-litre turbo-petrol four shared with the CX-7.

The magazine’s source says Mazda has overcome problems associated with adapting turbocharging to the SKYACTIV-G petrol engine’s high 14:1 compression. Bench-testing is said to have measured outputs of up to 235kW, but the report claims the production car will produce 300hp or around 220kW.

That’s 30kW more than the previous Mazda3 MPS and more than most of its potential front-drive hot-hatch rivals priced around $40,000, including the Volkswagen Golf GTI, Ford Focus ST and Renault Megane RS.

In fact, it would better the outputs of more expensive all-wheel drive sports cars like Subaru’s WRX STI, the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, Volkswagen’s Golf R and Audi’s S3 – but not the Mercedes-Benz A 45 and CLA 45 AMGs.

“They have denied rumours about the turbo officially, but have continued their research,” said the Holiday Auto source. “It was said that the turbo and SKYACTIV with a high compression ratio don’t work well together, but it has been already solved.”

Mazda Australia spokesman Steve Maciver didn’t deny the speculation, and said any MPS model would be a welcome addition in Australia.

“What we’ve said is we’re concentrating on our core models – we’ve got a new 3 and 6, and the 2 and CX-9 are next in line for the SKYACTIV treatment.

“But if any MPS was offered to us of course we’d jump at the opportunity.”

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Awesome news! Everybody is making turbo hatches but Subaru
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Old 03-18-2016, 12:17 PM   #8
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Not sure that engine straight out of the CX-9 is a great match for an MS3 as from the CX-9 introduction it's a high torque, low RPM (peak torque at 2000 RPM) engine designed to get a heavy SUV scooting along briskly. Maybe they put a different turbocharger on for the MS3 that makes boost higher in the RPM range.
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Not sure that engine straight out of the CX-9 is a great match for an MS3 as from the CX-9 introduction it's a high torque, low RPM (peak torque at 2000 RPM) engine designed to get a heavy SUV scooting along briskly. Maybe they put a different turbocharger on for the MS3 that makes boost higher in the RPM range.
The CX-9 version of this engine makes only 250 horsepower (on 93 octane gas), so the MPS version is very likely using a different turbo.
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So what about the rumors we had a while back about a Mazda6 Coupe? Still happening or auto rag garbage?
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:42 PM   #11
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When Mazda does eventually roll out its next generation of performance models expect them to be more mature than the MPS family seen in the past.

That’s the message from one of Mazda’s most senior global executives, Masahiro Moro, who declared the turbocharged MPS produced alongside the first two Mazda3 generations a “childish execution”.

“As a brand we are trying to elevate again a little bit more, because execution of Mazda MPS or Mazdaspeed 3 or whatever you call it was a little bit – I am not afraid to say it – childish.”

While that bracing assessment may not please fans of the Mazda3 MPS, it was – especially in its first generation – a renowned torque steerer as it tried to channel 190kW through its front wheels. Often, it must be said, with limited success.

A third-generation Mazda3 MPS concept was being developed to debut at the 2015 Frankfurt motor show, but Mazda – one of the smallest independent mass car manufacturers globally – canned that and instead showed the Koeru concept to preview the all-new China-only CX-4 coupe-crossover.

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The born-again Mazda3 and Mazda6 MPS models were expected to be powered by the upcoming MkII CX-9’s new turbocharged 2.5-litre four-cylinder petrol engine, potentially matched to all-wheel drive.

However, MPS development has now been put on the backburner as Mazda focuses its resources instead on its second-generation SKYACTIV II range of vehicles.

That begins rolling out as soon as 2017 with a new more economical range of engines and potentially the fourth generation Mazda3.

Moro, who was global marketing and sales chief for Mazda before taking over the top job at Mazda North America Operations on January 1, said the company’s focus had to be on SKYACTIV II ahead of MPS.

“Our research and development department is 100 per cent focussed on delivering SKYACTIV generation two and if we don’t have this we don’t have any other derivatives,” Moro said.

“So let us focus on delivering SKYACTIV generation two, then we are building on that to come up with (performance models).

“So everyone waiting for that type of vehicle (MPS) and to be honest we are very happy our customers expect that of Mazda. We are always not making a big loud noise, but we always keep that in mind and sometimes bring it out.”

Moro said Mazda didn’t “have a particular timeline yet” for the reintroduction of an MPS-style performance line-up.

“MPS or performance model or a sort of iconic model of the future will be a little bit later at this stage,” he said.

photo3The reference to “iconic model” is a clear pointer to the return of a production Mazda rotary sports car, something previewed by the 2020 RX-VISION coupe concept at the 2015 Tokyo show but not expected to be on sale until 2020.

Moro made it clear the next generation of Mazda MPS or performance models would be different to what came before, reflecting their more sophisticated base technology and the company’s desire to move upmarket.

“Mazda brand has become more mature, more upscale, more sophisticated and we have a new transition of the brand to relate that direction.

“So if we were to introduce some kind of performance model, that may be different to what we have done in the past.”

Nevertheless, Moro said that the MPS models – which included a first-generation all-wheel drive Mazda6 MPS as well as the two generations of the 3, served their purpose.

“I think in the past from 2000 we launch new-generation models and we focus on the zoom-zoom as the global message.

“And with zoom-zoom we have to prove how Mazda have a zoom-zoom spirit in our models. So we introduce a couple of models and there is a turbocharged engine to provide a better much stronger performance model.”
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So no Rotary till cough 2020 and MPS about the same time, 2019 as 2020 model
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So nothing fun anytime soon other than the Miata. Whatever performance models they come up with it doesn't sound like it will be in the STi/RS range but probably closer to a budget german performance car (only lighter).
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Ehh. It's hard to see them making something competitive with the ST/WRX/GTI/etc given their limited resources and crappy engines.
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Old 04-12-2016, 06:23 PM   #15
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Ehh. It's hard to see them making something competitive with the ST/WRX/GTI/etc given their limited resources and crappy engines.
Their engines are actually pretty good quality wise, they're just very average and lack any flavor.
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