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Old 04-07-2016, 02:00 PM   #1
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Default Ford just made cop-spotting a whole lot harder

Edit: Oops, posted in the wrong section. Please move to non-Subaru section please.


http://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/fo...led-light-bar/



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Car enthusiasts occasionally pride themselves on being able to pick out police cars from far away. I don't condone speeding, but if you ignore my wishes, it's a good idea to at least be smart about it. That's about to get a whole lot harder with Ford's new low-profile LED light bar.
Even sneakier than the roof-mounted light bar is the visor-mounted light bar, which attaches up near the sun visors inside the cabin, basically disappearing behind the windshield. Ford's new low-profile light bar is fully integrated outside of the driver's field of vision, for both reduced obstruction and a lower chance of scofflaws realizing five-o is in hot pursuit.
(Of course, there'll be no mistaking what's happening once the lights are flipped on. There's nothing low about blue and red LEDs blasting photons all up in your face.)
The light, which is only available on the Explorer-based Police Interceptor Utility, features auto-dimming capability, programmable brightness down to 20 percent of full and a bright white "take down" mode. Adding the light bar to the car also gets rid of the dark tint atop the windshield. It's even got a warranty!
Unmarked cars are hard enough to spot -- especially nowadays, when the police utilize a wide variety of makes and models. Ford's new light bar is about to make it that much harder. If you're racking up points left and right, you might want to chill out a bit more.


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Old 04-07-2016, 02:41 PM   #2
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If the goal of speed enforcement is the public's safety, then what is the point of a stealth speed enforcement vehicle? Oh, that's not the goal? It's to generate revenue for the local municipalities so they can pay for high tech stealth gear like this? Cool.
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Old 04-07-2016, 03:15 PM   #3
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If the goal of speed enforcement is the public's safety, then what is the point of a stealth speed enforcement vehicle? Oh, that's not the goal? It's to generate revenue for the local municipalities so they can pay for high tech stealth gear like this? Cool.
100% correct. State patrol rely on presence to slow traffic down. Not saying they dont have undercover vehicles, just that the focus is on traffic safety.
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Old 04-07-2016, 03:56 PM   #4
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Yeah there is a new exploder SUV in my town with HID running lights. Makes it impossible to tell now.
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:02 PM   #5
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It's kind of ironic in that if all motorists complied with the laws and stopped speeding the police departments in most cities and municipalities would likely all run at major deficits as they depend on the thousands and millions of dollars they rake in from speeding tickets.
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:04 PM   #6
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I helped lead the design of a LED lightbar (though it was roof mounted) and '5-0' light (think Starsky and Hutch) that was visor mounted...20 years ago! Nothing new here, just finally integrated at the mfr level.
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:34 PM   #7
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Luckily no one in Chicago buys them so it's safe to bet every one you see is a cop.
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:43 PM   #8
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I'm skeptical of most exlporer SUV's now anyway... some of the trims available are almost too close to police spec to tell. But I also live in a state where I've seen someone pulled over by an unmarked hybrid Camry...
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:59 PM   #9
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Luckily no one in Chicago buys them so it's safe to bet every one you see is a cop.
My thoughts exactly. Some of the neighborhoods around here, especially on the Eastside, if you see an Explorer or something along those lines they're cops.
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Old 04-07-2016, 05:02 PM   #10
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I know a guy who is a state trooper and He loves the low profile LED. Says the noise at 70 with the old light(s) was horrible to listen to all day.

Yes agrees that he is a visual deterrent.

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Old 04-07-2016, 09:12 PM   #11
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Nothing new, our Traffic Division and Sergeant cars already use these concealed light bars and have for years, good thing we're super understaffed! Also, CHP has a fleet of these low key cars in all white. Look for the push bumper and fleet model headlights.

Don't roll stop signs, stay off your phone, and don't be the fastest person on the road, and there's a good chance you'll never get pulled over. There are so many dumbasses out there that it's pretty easy to remain ticket free if you're a smart driver.
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Old 04-09-2016, 10:06 AM   #12
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Iv seen these, It bugs me out because iv seen lights like them on the Taurus and other cars too. Even a chevy malibu iv seen pull someone over out of no where. Like the guy above said i take extreme caution with anything that could be a cop because nowadays they are sneaky as ever
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I'm pretty good at spotting cops, though it's been more difficult lately because they use so many different cars and some are pretty stealth.

However, there is only one that I was completely oblivious to. The Chevy Caprice. I saw someone pulled over by one in the city and I thought to myself that I wouldn't have suspected it. The only thing that threw me is that I had no idea what kind of car it was at first and I had to walk up to it. Apparently, they're not available to the public... only used as police cruisers in the U.S., that's why I didn't recognize it.

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Old 04-09-2016, 08:14 PM   #14
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You can get the Caprices second hand from LEOs like any other police vehicle. I knew a guy that had one with the V8 that he supercharged and turned it into one helluva sleeper.
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Yes of course, but at least in my area they're not commonly used as cruisers (yet).
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:19 AM   #16
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I also noticed that around here the stealthy Ford SUV police cruisers also have normal license plates and no external markings aside from the light. That seems kinda sketchy to me.
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It's kind of ironic in that if all motorists complied with the laws and stopped speeding the police departments in most cities and municipalities would likely all run at major deficits as they depend on the thousands and millions of dollars they rake in from speeding tickets.

Better than raising taxes, don't ya think? If YOU never get a ticket, then they aren't getting as much of your money as taxes would.
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Old 04-11-2016, 12:52 AM   #18
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How are going to protect and serve if you can't even be spotted? Sneaky sneaky
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Old 04-11-2016, 12:31 PM   #19
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All that effort to go stealth and they keep the cop car wheels?
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I'm a safe driver, I don't speed excessively (3 to 7 over), I don't race on the street, and believe it or not, as a BMW owner I actually use my turn signals. In the Kansas City well-to-do suburbs, many of the cities are going with grey and/or black Taurus', Chargers, and Explorers with and/or without very faint door police markings, most are running no exterior emergency lights, and those that do, the lights are very very minimalist. This really pisses me off because it's very clear the thought here is to be unseen and to generate revenue through tickets.

Police cars are meant to look like police cars in order to instill a perception of patrol presence. They're also meant to be easily recognized in the event you need to flag one down or even have one pull up on you (i.e., you know it's a police car and not someone else with bad intentions).

What's really funny is that the police cars in Kansas City proper where a lot of violent crime is are very well marked. Hmmmmm....
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Old 04-11-2016, 01:25 PM   #21
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Our Local Police department not only marks most of their vehicles, but they do it with a sense or pride and have won a few awards from the designs a few times in a row.
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Old 04-11-2016, 01:32 PM   #22
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As long as they keep using the cop wheels and the external spotlights it's not too hard to tell.

I'm more worried that some are breaking away from using domestic vehicles. The unmarked CR-V and Sonata I saw recently looked stock except for the tinted windows.
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Old 04-12-2016, 07:17 PM   #23
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As long as they keep using the cop wheels and the external spotlights it's not too hard to tell.

I'm more worried that some are breaking away from using domestic vehicles. The unmarked CR-V and Sonata I saw recently looked stock except for the tinted windows.
Did they have exempt plates or civilian plates? If they had civi plates they may have been undercover cars.
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