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Old 02-12-2013, 03:07 PM   #1
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Default Next Volkswagen Golf R to get 286 horsepower?

Autoblog: http://www.autoblog.com/2013/02/12/n...86-horsepower/



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The seventh-generation Volkswagen Golf hasn't launched in the United States just yet, but we're already setting our sights on the range-topping R model. According to Autocar, the next Golf R will be more powerful than the current version, producing 268 horsepower and 280 pound-feet of torque, making it the most powerful production Golf ever.

Powering the new Golf R will be a further evolution of Volkswagen's well-liked 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-four, and when mated to a six-speed dual-clutch transmission, the hotter hatch will reportedly be able to sprint to 62 miles per hour in five seconds flat. That's over half a second quicker than the current US-spec model.

Other updates for the new Golf R include the addition of VW's Haldex 5 all-wheel-drive system found in the latest iteration of 4Motion. Furthermore, thanks to the use of lightweight materials, the new R is expected to weigh in around 2,650 pounds – that's a massive 675 pounds less than the current US-spec car. The exhaust has reportedly been reworked to provide more aural delight, as well.

Herein lies the rub, though: It's unclear whether or not Volkswagen will offer this same power upgrade in the States. After all, the current US-spec Golf R is rated at 256 hp and 243 lb-ft while its Euro counterpart produces 270 hp and 258 lb-ft. What's more, European versions can be had with the delicious six-speed DSG, whereas US models are only available with the six-speed manual 'box. Volkswagen's US arm tells Autoblog that since the car is still so far off, "there is no final decision" on whether our car will be identical to the Euro model.

Autocar reports that the Euro-spec Golf R will make its debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show this September, with the first cars hitting the streets of Europe in early 2014.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:14 PM   #2
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2016 before we see it in the States? Damn.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:15 PM   #3
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the new R is expected to weigh in around 2,650 pounds – that's a massive 675 pounds less than the current US-spec car.
Wow!!
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:22 PM   #4
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Wow!!
Damn, I missed that part. I'll believe it when it actually happens.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:38 PM   #5
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Um, I am

RATHER EXCITED about this... as my current R is just stellar.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:39 PM   #6
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Damn, I missed that part. I'll believe it when it actually happens.
Yeah it is almost too difficult to believe.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:41 PM   #7
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the weight is not correct

the new Golf VII GTI weighs 1.351 kg, thatīs 2,979 lbs

the R will weigh more
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:49 PM   #8
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Wow!!
Thank you MQB platform
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:00 PM   #9
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Dyslexia's a mf...

268 hp not 286
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:17 PM   #10
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It is the 280 ft lbs of torque that will make it move...

Truthfully, though, you can surpass those numbers today with just an OBDII flash of the current Golf R. So they are not pushing it at all.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:36 PM   #11
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It is the 280 ft lbs of torque that will make it move...

Truthfully, though, you can surpass those numbers today with just an OBDII flash of the current Golf R. So they are not pushing it at all.
Hell, I have that solidly beat with my stage 2 2007 GTI.

That said, there is a smoothness to the R powerplant that I don't have.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:38 PM   #12
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It is the 280 ft lbs of torque that will make it move...

Truthfully, though, you can surpass those numbers today with just an OBDII flash of the current Golf R. So they are not pushing it at all.
Are VW dealerships prone to deny warranty claims from flashes?
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:39 PM   #13
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O_O I want my BRZ to weigh that much with that kind of power. No terbo please.
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VWAG subsidiaries are (read: Audi AG).
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Old 02-12-2013, 05:29 PM   #14
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the weight is not correct

the new Golf VII GTI weighs 1.351 kg, thatīs 2,979 lbs

the R will weigh more
Yup, no way in hell this thing's going to come under 3000 lbs.
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2650lbs? Impossible.
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:10 PM   #16
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2650lbs? Impossible.
"Speed holes" in every component!
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Old 02-13-2013, 01:14 AM   #17
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If current R turns out to be decently reliable I will head back into a VW showroom for a DSG R only. I miss the DSG. Was the only thing on my MKV that did not fail. I am kinda maybe excited about that CC shooting brake concept, tho.
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:14 AM   #18
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Are VW dealerships prone to deny warranty claims from flashes?
From browsing the VW and gti forums, it seems most dealers are mod friendly up to the typical stage II point. After that, not so much. I'm debating on getting the apr tune on my mkvi.
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:02 AM   #19
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Thank you MQB platform
I'm pretty sure that's a misprint - I don't see a standardized platform to get that kind of weight loss. :P
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:07 AM   #20
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I miss the DSG. Was the only thing on my MKV that did not fail.
Haha, that's the sad truth right there.. I will never again make the mistake of a VW/Audi out of warranty. Fantastic cars, but there is always a headache.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:40 AM   #21
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Yeah it is almost too difficult to believe.
This.

With a AWD?

My mini weighs 26** lbs!
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:43 AM   #22
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My dealer has told me verbally that he would not void my warranty if I do mild mods. He races his R routinely and has it done up to the hilt. Does that mean that VW will listen to the manager of my dealer. Who knows. I am on the verge of trying a Stage I APR flash, but have not done it yet. I only have 1800 miles on my R and it is really just a fantastic car to own and drive. If a really good legacy GT does not come out, or a equally tempting STI, I may have bought my last Subaru. Now I may buy my wife another OUtback,as they are just spectacular cars.

But yes, I like my R that much. If only Subaru would up the game on the refinement a bit. Guess I am getting old.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:52 AM   #23
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2650, AWD, and 268 hp... I'd be all over that. After the first year depreciation of course .
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2650 is never gonna happen. The doors weigh that much.
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It is the 280 ft lbs of torque that will make it move...
Come on, you're smarter than that. The HP will be the deciding factor in out-right acceleration potential.

The low-end power will make for just that, a punchy low-end around town. Which of course is a nice thing to have.
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