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Old 12-20-2013, 04:05 PM   #576
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Old 12-20-2013, 04:32 PM   #577
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Old 12-21-2013, 12:31 AM   #578
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Its really hard to tell yet, but it seems like the new R seats while more sportier will have manual height and forward adjustment. Might be one of the items that were cut by VW to lower the cost of the new R.
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:22 PM   #579
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Old 12-22-2013, 03:33 PM   #580
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The new R is so damn tempting. However, I cant justify getting rid of my 2012 GTI yet. 30k miles on it and the only issue that needed to be fixed was my horn. If anything were to happen to my gti, I think the new R would be my next car.
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Old 12-22-2013, 03:36 PM   #581
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Power seats suck and are for women. Why would anyone prefer them over manual seats?
It depends. The manual seats on my GTI were excellent as far as adjustment. The ones on my Prius aren't quite as adjustable but not terrible. The ones on my old Impreza only had slide and recline, IIRC. Power seats usually have height and pitch adjustment for the driver. Much like everything else, it all depends how it is implemented.
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Old 12-22-2013, 09:59 PM   #582
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Is this thing actually going to come to the states?
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Old 12-23-2013, 03:40 AM   #583
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My daily is a 2012 Boss 302 with manual adjustment Recaro seats. The seat has height , tilt, and front to back adjustment. The adjustment is fine for daily driving and track driving.

What issue am i dodging? Power seats are a convenience option that adds weight. There are two people that dont care about weight in a performance vehicle. One of them is fat and the other one is a woman.

Its funny how i say power seats are for women, so you call me poor and bitter. You also try and say that i am dodging issues. What issue have i dodged?

I tried to not make a fool out of you based on your assumptions.

The one issue that you have dodged is which camp do you fall into.

The fat camp or the woman camp. There is nothing wrong with a woman but the other is a slob.
Of all cars, do you really think your Boss would perform any differently if you had power seats? Don't just say every bit helps, given the power and weight of your car, can you honestly convince yourself that it would matter? Or do you also shave your balls to save weight?
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Old 12-23-2013, 04:29 AM   #584
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Of all cars, do you really think your Boss would perform any differently if you had power seats? Don't just say every bit helps, given the power and weight of your car, can you honestly convince yourself that it would matter? Or do you also shave your balls to save weight?
My point is that manual seats should come in a performance oriented car. I am in no way shape or form on the light weight everything band wagon. You clearly assumed wrong.


Advantages of a manual seat
1. cheaper
2. lighter
3. more range of adjustment
4. sit lower due to no motors

Who doesnt want those things?
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Old 12-23-2013, 04:50 AM   #585
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My point is that manual seats should come in a performance oriented car. I am in no way shape or form on the light weight everything band wagon. You clearly assumed wrong.


Advantages of a manual seat
1. cheaper
2. lighter
3. more range of adjustment
4. sit lower due to no motors

Who doesnt want those things?
Yes, it manual seats are more performance oriented. The R isn't a harder racier car, it is a more powerful and upscale car. Power seats are pretty much expected in that class. And lastly, calling people fat girls will make them very angry because their panties get all bunched up and they have chafing that makes them easily irritable.
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Old 12-23-2013, 05:14 AM   #586
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Yes, it manual seats are more performance oriented. The R isn't a harder racier car, it is a more powerful and upscale car. Power seats are pretty much expected in that class. And lastly, calling people fat girls will make them very angry because their panties get all bunched up and they have chafing that makes them easily irritable.
It has more power and adjustable shocks and all kinds of sporty bits. What part of that isnt race oriented?

Golf = regular
GTI = sporty
R = upscale?

I guess i'm confused where they are going with the car then.

I didnt call anyone a fat girl. I asked if he was fat or a girl, if both are true then it was just luck.
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:59 AM   #587
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Of all cars, do you really think your Boss would perform any differently if you had power seats? Don't just say every bit helps, given the power and weight of your car, can you honestly convince yourself that it would matter? Or do you also shave your balls to save weight?
He probably skips the shaving and goes straight to complete castration and anorexia.

Them 5 lbs make all the difference to him apparently.
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:56 AM   #588
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Power seats suck and are for women.

Why would anyone prefer them over manual seats?
I generally don't care for power seats but the ones in the MK6 R felt good and was a decent feature that added to the overall appeal of the car. Also I don't live on the track so I could care less about weight reduction.

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The new R is so damn tempting. However, I cant justify getting rid of my 2012 GTI yet. 30k miles on it and the only issue that needed to be fixed was my horn. If anything were to happen to my gti, I think the new R would be my next car.
It probably won't be available until next fall or spring 2015, I'd say by the you'll be more in line for one.
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:54 AM   #589
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It has more power and adjustable shocks and all kinds of sporty bits. What part of that isnt race oriented?

Golf = regular
GTI = sporty
R = upscale?

I guess i'm confused where they are going with the car then.

I didnt call anyone a fat girl. I asked if he was fat or a girl, if both are true then it was just luck.
Leather power seats, heavy AWD system, touch screen, steering wheel buttons, sunroof. The suspension has "comfort" mode. The R is just marketing, not really race ready. It's a Golf for people that want an Audi/BMW.

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Old 12-23-2013, 10:21 AM   #590
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Leather power seats, heavy AWD system, touch screen, steering wheel buttons, sunroof. The suspension has "comfort" mode. The R is just marketing, not really race ready. It's a Golf for people that want an Audi/BMW.
Not cool. Not cool at all. You know how upset people get when they find out a car isn't everything they dreamed, fantasized, posted about it on some Subaru forum, and blatantly mistook it to be.


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Old 12-23-2013, 10:48 AM   #591
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Leather power seats, heavy AWD system, touch screen, steering wheel buttons, sunroof. The suspension has "comfort" mode. The R is just marketing, not really race ready. It's a Golf for people that want an Audi/BMW.
Makes sense now, i thought it was more for the track. Why not just buy an Audi/BMW?

Claus gonna be mad over non powered seats now.
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Old 12-23-2013, 12:08 PM   #592
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Leather power seats, heavy AWD system, touch screen, steering wheel buttons, sunroof. The suspension has "comfort" mode. The R is just marketing, not really race ready. It's a Golf for people that want an Audi/BMW.
Aside from the comfort mode setting and power seats....what you described can be found in any ROW hatch back STI. To be honest, there are few cars in this price range that are truly "race ready," so VW isn't doing anything different.
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Old 12-23-2013, 12:14 PM   #593
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Why not just buy a Boss 302 like me?
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Fixed!
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I tried to not bring up what i drive but A W is a moron. My car is not for everyone and i really couldn't care less what people think.

Has VW / Audi gotten better reliability wise in the last few years?
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Old 12-23-2013, 04:14 PM   #596
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I tried to not bring up what i drive but A W is a moron. My car is not for everyone and i really couldn't care less what people think.

Has VW / Audi gotten better reliability wise in the last few years?
No car is for everyone..........

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Old 12-23-2013, 04:21 PM   #597
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I tried to not bring up what i drive but A W is a moron. My car is not for everyone and i really couldn't care less what people think.

Has VW / Audi gotten better reliability wise in the last few years?
Reports say overall yes....but not up to the level of some other manufactures. Alot of members on vortex are pretty happy with their MK6 R, and aside from the few known issues, which are taken care of under warranty; things seem alright.
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Old 12-23-2013, 05:35 PM   #598
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No car is for everyone..........

Some cars most people will drive, others most people wont drive. Mine falls into the wont category.

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Reports say overall yes....but not up to the level of some other manufactures. Alot of members on vortex are pretty happy with their MK6 R, and aside from the few known issues, which are taken care of under warranty; things seem alright.
Good to hear and i hope it keeps improving. I really want to like some VW and Audi models but i still dont trust them. Our beetle is an electrical **** storm.
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:41 PM   #599
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Makes sense now, i thought it was more for the track. Why not just buy an Audi/BMW?

Claus gonna be mad over non powered seats now.
It is sportier than a A3 and cheaper than a TT or any BMW. Also more rare. I'd rather have the top end golf than the bottom end Audi/BMW.

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Aside from the comfort mode setting and power seats....what you described can be found in any ROW hatch back STI. To be honest, there are few cars in this price range that are truly "race ready," so VW isn't doing anything different.
Pretty much. Road cars are not race cars.
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