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Old 01-28-2014, 07:47 PM   #676
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The new HALDEX will be amazing from what I hear since it has the E Diff working integrated into it.

Should be an amazing street car.
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Old 01-28-2014, 07:59 PM   #677
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The new HALDEX will be amazing from what I hear since it has the E Diff working integrated into it.

Should be an amazing street car.
I'd consider it amazing if it used real diffs and not open diffs that use the brakes.

The few notes I saw about Haldex 5 say it's basically the same as 4, but slightly lighter/slightly slower to respond.
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Old 01-28-2014, 08:02 PM   #678
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I actually read that it was faster to respond and could send more torque rearward.

Nobody seems to mind driving it. The Golf R is a fast street car. It does that job flawlessly.

IF you are looking for a track rat, a Golf R is completely the wrong car.
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Old 01-28-2014, 08:34 PM   #679
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I actually read that it was faster to respond and could send more torque rearward.

Nobody seems to mind driving it. The Golf R is a fast street car. It does that job flawlessly.

IF you are looking for a track rat, a Golf R is completely the wrong car.
I'll have to read more, but I'm spoiled by the STi's drivetrain in terms of rear bias and tuneability. If the R's drivetrain is good, then I might own das auto.

I'm really shopping for a daily and using the Mustang as the baseline. I had considered the 2015 STi until I learned it's the same old EJ. I'm considering the R, but the AWD system is the question mark here.
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Old 01-28-2014, 08:41 PM   #680
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I really cannot recommend it to you without reservation and that is to drive it. IT may not satisfy the feel you are looking for. I can tell you for a street car it has not flaws, but as a hard core track car, the Mark VI may not be aggressive enough for you. The Mark VII may have the fun you need with the ediffs, but I am not sure. I foresee the Ediff begin a brilliant solution for a back road or a canyon, but for a track day car, I can see brake temps going places you do not like. IT is a simple but effective solution to a problem (understeer) but when used in an extreme environment I can see it having issues.

That begin said, the Golf R was never and will never be sold as a hard core track car.
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:04 PM   #681
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I'd consider it amazing if it used real diffs and not open diffs that use the brakes. The few notes I saw about Haldex 5 say it's basically the same as 4, but slightly lighter/slightly slower to respond.
It doesn't. It is an electric mechanical LSD in front and back. Same as on the GTI.
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Old 01-29-2014, 06:51 PM   #682
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I'll have to read more, but I'm spoiled by the STi's drivetrain in terms of rear bias and tuneability. If the R's drivetrain is good, then I might own das auto.

I'm really shopping for a daily and using the Mustang as the baseline. I had considered the 2015 STi until I learned it's the same old EJ. I'm considering the R, but the AWD system is the question mark here.
The mustang and the R will be a hard comparison. The mustang is raw, and untamed power. The mustang will win in terms of flat out power and being street aggressive if that's what you are looking for. However, the current R is a complete blast to drive. The ride is quiet although you can hear the engine running up the rpms under WOT. It's an extremely comfortable ride while being able to handle pretty well. The interior refinement will be above the the mustang.

If highly suggest test driving both. For a daily, I'd take the R. The mustan I would just want to make fast.
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Old 01-30-2014, 06:29 AM   #683
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I'm kind of mixed right now with this showing of the R, and that's because I haven't seen enough of it to make a determination. I know that we won't be getting our model until end of year so that gives me time to: scroll through videos from ROW and see owner impressions on Vortex. The same I will do for anything new from Subaru....I want to see how it performs and how reliable the cars are before I buy buy. Thus I will most likely be trading in the Impreza for a more efficient daily driving appliance until a later time.
Made the move for a new 14 Corolla....driving an appliance is not fun but it's nothing like my old 97 Corolla. It has tons of features that I didn't even have in my Impreza. I will now wait out this storm.

Oh btw...I have no problems with the LED headlights, they shine really brightly....I know this has been the source of heated discussions on the WRX thread.
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Old 01-30-2014, 08:17 AM   #684
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congrats,

I have to admit, I did not see that coming.
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Old 01-30-2014, 08:26 AM   #685
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I"m keeping my eye on the new Golf R for early next year. The MKVII GTI even... such a nice car and great value for the money.
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Sat in the new GTI at the auto show, it is spectacular inside. It will be hard to resist teh Mark VII
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Sat in the new GTI at the auto show, it is spectacular inside. It will be hard to resist teh Mark VII
Yup... The only reservation I have is FWD. Now, don't get me wrong... I've driven FWD all my life and I can make it work... I just started getting used to being able to plow through snow with ease on my Legacy .

The MKVII GTI is definitely underated as well, I belive it is running 14 flat in the 1/4 @ 100mph. It also offers the performance pack which has more hp, bigger brakes and better diffs. Good stuff.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:42 AM   #688
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With the advent of these new Ediffs, and cars like the focus/fiesta/GTI, I think the FWD doubters needs to put the prejudice behind them and go for a drive. I did and was very well surprised. These new hot FWD'ers are absolutely no compromise fun machines.
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With the advent of these new Ediffs, and cars like the focus/fiesta/GTI, I think the FWD doubters needs to put the prejudice behind them and go for a drive. I did and was very well surprised. These new hot FWD'ers are absolutely no compromise fun machines.
Nobody doubts that FWD can be made to work. It's just that everything else being equal rwd or awd is better every time.
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Nobody doubts that FWD can be made to work. It's just that everything else being equal rwd or awd is better every time.
On what? A track racing perspective, sure. However the fwd in the gti is an absolute blast on the street. The only thing I miss about my sti is doing donuts and playing in the snow. However, mountain passes and canyon roads are insnaely fun with my gti and good tires.

I had the same view before actually test driving my gti. Always though fwd is whack and completely boring. I have nothing but positive things to say about my mkvi gti. I do however partially kick myself in the ass for not springing for the R. But after seeing this new mkvii, I'm glad I waited.

The only problem when looking at the cost of the new R, I could easily pick up a CPO 1 series BMW. Id nut for a 1 series with cobb stage 2, with springs and sway bars.

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New V6 turbo on the horizon for the RS/EVO Golf.

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Now that would be a sick Golf, Audi s5 3.0T maybe??
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congrats,

I have to admit, I did not see that coming.
New Legacy/Outback might have me buying again next year....
But maybe this new R will take the cake.
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How fast do they plan on making the RS? That engine will be likely in the neighbourhood of 350 hp.
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How fast do they plan on making the RS? That engine will be likely in the neighbourhood of 350 hp.
The Evo is said to be 370hp but I'm pretty sure that is for the EA888 4 pot
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How fast do they plan on making the RS? That engine will be likely in the neighbourhood of 350 hp.
I've heard 370 HP also but Jamie is being very tight lipped. All I know is they are pondering bricking this monster to USDM and the results of this are delaying a 3dr option on the R.

If I were to guess based on what I've read.....I think the 3dr will be this RS/EVO and this will be the motor. Worth waiting on for me. I'll take a V6 over the Levorg or any hatch Subaru "might" produce. I've driven and nearly bought a R32 and several NSX's. The sound and feel of a V6 with some balls is better than any 4 banger I've ever owned or driven.
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Is there a US release date for the R and GTI yet?
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Is there a US release date for the R and GTI yet?
No date but GTI is late 1st quarter early 2nd and R is a year away
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