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Old 09-25-2013, 07:00 PM   #1226
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lol, doh
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Old 09-25-2013, 11:45 PM   #1227
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I already bought tickets to see it tomorrow!!! It was weird though! I was planning to go to the movies around midnight as usually a premier is usually around 12:01, but for some reason they are showing it at 8pm, 930pm and at 10pm as well as midnight. So going sooner!
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:10 AM   #1228
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there is a good chance for some changes

1 March 16 Australia Melbourne Ticket Booking Open
2 March 23 Malaysia Sepang
3 April 6 China Shanghai
4 April 13 Korea Yeongam
5 April 27 Bahrain Sakhir
6 May 11 Spain Catalunya Ticket Booking Open
7 May 25 Monaco Monte Carlo Ticket Booking Open
8 June 8 Canada Montreal Ticket Booking Open
9 June 22 Austria Red Bull Ring
10 July 6 Britain Silverstone Ticket Booking Open
11 July 20 Germany Hockenheim Ticket Booking Open
12 July 27 Hungary Budapest Ticket Booking Open
13 August 24 Belgium Spa-Francorchamps
14 September 7 Italy Monza
15 September 21 Singapore Marina Bay
16 October 5 Japan Suzuka
17 October 19 Russia Sochi
18 October 26 Abu Dhabi Yas Marina
19 November 9 Mexico Mexico City
20 November 16 United States Austin
21 November 30 Brazil Sao Paulo
The 2014 calendar in full:
16/03 Australia
30/03 Malaysia
06/04 Bahrain
20/04 China
27/04 Korea (provisional)
11/05 Spain
25/05 Monaco
01/06 USA, New Jersey (provisional*)
08/06 Canada
22/06 Austria
06/07 Britain
20/07 Germany
27/07 Hungary
24/08 Belgium
07/09 Italy
21/09 Singapore
05/10 Russia
12/10 Japan
26/10 Abu Dhabi
09/11 USA, Austin
16/11 Mexico (provisional*)
30/11 Brazil

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...3/9/15021.html
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Sweet! Thank you sir.

Hopefully I'll be able attend Australia
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:30 PM   #1230
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The 2014 calendar in full:
16/03 Australia
30/03 Malaysia
06/04 Bahrain
20/04 China
27/04 Korea (provisional)
11/05 Spain
25/05 Monaco
01/06 USA, New Jersey (provisional*)
08/06 Canada
22/06 Austria
06/07 Britain
20/07 Germany
27/07 Hungary
24/08 Belgium
07/09 Italy
21/09 Singapore
05/10 Russia
12/10 Japan
26/10 Abu Dhabi
09/11 USA, Austin
16/11 Mexico (provisional*)
30/11 Brazil

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...3/9/15021.html
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:41 PM   #1231
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The 2014 calendar in full:
16/03 Australia
30/03 Malaysia
06/04 Bahrain
20/04 China
27/04 Korea (provisional)
11/05 Spain
25/05 Monaco
01/06 USA, New Jersey (provisional*)
08/06 Canada
22/06 Austria
06/07 Britain
20/07 Germany
27/07 Hungary
24/08 Belgium
07/09 Italy
21/09 Singapore
05/10 Russia
12/10 Japan
26/10 Abu Dhabi
09/11 USA, Austin
16/11 Mexico (provisional*)
30/11 Brazil

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...3/9/15021.html
I'm pretty sure the teams said they wouldn't run more than a 20 event schedule. So i think those provisional races are more like i doubt they happen race.
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Old 09-27-2013, 01:27 PM   #1232
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There was an interview on Sky coverage on the lead up to Monza I think with Bernie. They addressed this about 20 races and Bernie was like "yea I know that's the agreement". So he's just going full steam ahead. He didn't have much to say other than he knew that's what it was and that it looks like more would be scheduled... but Bernie was being Bernie and impossibly vague/cheeky.
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Old 09-27-2013, 01:44 PM   #1233
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There was an interview on Sky coverage on the lead up to Monza I think with Bernie. They addressed this about 20 races and Bernie was like "yea I know that's the agreement". So he's just going full steam ahead. He didn't have much to say other than he knew that's what it was and that it looks like more would be scheduled... but Bernie was being Bernie and impossibly vague/cheeky.
That interview was absolutely hilarious and Bernie at his best.

"I'm a bit stupid, how can there be 22 races if there's an agreement limiting it to 20?"

"We'll have to see."

His having no idea about the calendar that was released was also gold. "It didn't come from me. The only other people it could come from is the FIA and they have a lot of good honest people over there."

(Paraphrasing from memory but pretty accurate)
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WEEHAWKEN, N.J. (Sept. 27, 2013) The Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile has released the 2014 FIA Formula One World Championship calendar, with the inaugural Grand Prix of America at Port Imperial listed. The race will be the first Formula One race in the New Jersey / New York area, a fitting celebration of the world championship's 65th year of competition.

"The entire Grand Prix of America team is thrilled to join the 2014 FIA calendar and we look forward to bringing world-class Formula One racing to New Jersey," race promoter Leo Hindery, Jr. said.

The Grand Prix of America will run on a 3.2-mile temporary street circuit along the Hudson River in Weehawken and West New York, N.J., with the New York City skyline as a stunning backdrop. The 19-turn course includes a breathtaking elevation change of 160 feet from sea level to the top of the Palisades cliff.

More than 100,000 people are expected to attend the three-day event, most arriving by public transportation. The race, which will receive no government subsidies, is expected to generate more than $100 million in annual economic benefits for New Jersey and New York.
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i doubt it will happen.
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Old 09-27-2013, 06:02 PM   #1236
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"It is expected to generates more then $100 million"... I hope it does because if i remember correctly, $100 million is the fee each racetrack has to pay Berni and the FIA to have F1 come race there. I'm sure with hotels and food and all accommodations, it will be over $100 million. Unless they are saying $100 million in profit on top of paying off the $100 million they are already in debt for.
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:53 PM   #1238
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Rush was a good movie. Maybe not a great one, but good. For me, I almost hoped the hollywoodizing of the two racers would make them less..boring. but theyre racing drivers, so the only interesting things they do are on the track, haha. and thats how the movie was.

James wasnt portrayed as nearly as interesting as we all wistfully believe he was, Niki as portrayed was downright unlikeable. The movie really comes alive around 2/3rds though, but at that point it may have been too late for me. I greatly preferred Senna.

Edit: that said, I will still be going to see it again.

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Old 09-29-2013, 02:43 PM   #1239
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agreed, i liked the movie rush, but knowing alot of the things that had happened, there was much left out! Like the riots in the British GP when hunt used his spare car but then after the race they disqualified him. But movie was good. Its def appealing to anyone. Its fun and entertaining and didn't drag along. Quoting my gf lol
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Given the strength of Mark Webber's friendship with Fernando Alonso you have to wonder why he turned down the chance to drive alongside him in 2013. The evidence of that friendship was plain to see after the Singapore Grand Prix when Fernando Alonso stopped his car in the middle of a corner to pick Mark up for an expensive taxi ride back to the pits. It's that same friendship that may well have been the trigger to the booing Sebastian Vettel has had to endure at some grands prix this year. Before Mark hangs up his helmet he needs to answer some tough questions.

The Singapore taxi ride has been debated all this week but you get a sense of Webber's tendency to slant things when you read what he has to say about it.

Alonso's sudden stop in the middle of a corner on the slowing down lap was a surprise to other drivers, especially seeing as he was in front of most of the field at that stage. FIA footage from CCTV cameras show Webber waving to Alonso as he runs toward the Ferrari on its slowing down lap, ignoring the marshals, before he sprints around to the left hand side of the Ferrari. Nico Rosberg has to swerve to the left of Webber, and a few seconds later Lewis Hamilton comes across the scene and has to take to the kerbs on the outside.* An unguarded Hamilton admitted he was "shocked" to come across a car in that position. Singapore is a long old race and so drivers will just want to get back to the garage for some relief, they won't be expecting an obstruction.

After the race the drivers were summoned to see the stewards. Webber got a reprimand for ignoring the marshals and not getting permission to go out on track. Alonso's reprimand was for stopping in a dangerous place, which was in the middle of Turn 7 where he couldn't be seen by cars entering the corner. Neither was for the taxi ride back to the pits - which was great F1 theatre.

To a certain extent you have to feel sorry for Alonso who might have found it hard to drive past his buddy after Mark stuck his thumb out - but presumably he knew there might be consequences, having been summoned to the stewards for stopping to collect a Spanish flag at the Spanish Grand Prix. On that day the stewards made the right choice in not punishing him, but the stewards couldn't turn a blind eye to this one as it was done so inexpertly.

Both Mark and Fernando mocked the decision on their Twitter feeds in the days afterwards. Webber retweeted a photo montage of other F1 driver taxi rides from history, and drew attention to Singapore GP stewards' driver representative Derek Warwick hitching a lift on Gerhard Berger's Ferrari. But he already knew that the taxi ride itself was not what he was penalised for.

And Webber will know that some rules in the sport have changed since 1988

One of Webber's post-race tweets was:

"And while I'm at it, contrary to reports, there was no interaction at all with any track officials after we put the fire out."

So by his own admission he's saying he didn't check that it was okay to run out onto the circuit. He's got earpieces in, a helmet on and there are F1 cars howling around the streets of Singapore. When drivers are in their garages you don't see people having normal conversations with them when they've got their helmets on. How does he know that they weren't yelling at him to stay where he is? The CCTV footage shows them waving at him to stop - presumably they didn't do that silently.

Alonso and Webber were properly dealt with in Singapore and their subsequent behaviour in trying to undermine the decision should be taken up by the race stewards in Korea.

Now that we've established that Mark's a big mate of Fernando Alonso and that he's not as upfront as some people might think he is, let's go back to Brazil 2012 and Malaysia 2013. But before that, let's stop by at the Singapore podium. Christian Horner said he was really disappointed that Seb got the continued jeering

"I don't know what it is, to be honest with you," Horner told Autosport. "I think that for sure Malaysia did not help but, as we know, Malaysia has happened. It's been done, there has been an awful lot written about it and there were circumstances that were involved in that."

Again the hint - "there were circumstances involved in that." There is still a truth to come out of that unhappy result, and the more Vettel is jeered and the more Webber revered, the more likely we're going to be told what those "circumstances" were. It isn't particularly hard to guess and here's the Planet F1 Winners and Losers column from Brazil 2012 which might be a clue:

Mark Webber, Red Bull, 4th
Christian Horner must have been on auto-pilot/auto-quote after the race when he called Mark Webber a great team player. It's hard to know what help he was at the start when he moved across and blocked Vettel's line, forcing him to give up places to Alonso and Hulkenberg. That was the one thing he had to do, make sure Seb got a clean get away and he blocked him. It's not like he didn't know Vettel was going to be there.
Then on the re-start after the Safety Car he attacked his team-mate into Turn 1 and put him under the kind of pressure he really didn't need. As it was he ran wide and dropped from 7th to 11th.

The start of the race in Brazil was in tricky conditions not wet enough for Inters, but not dry either. It needed maximum coordination from the team. Webber produced a performance that looked like he was either very inexperienced or he was treating Seb like any other driver on the grid. Had Vettel been hit harder on the opening lap (and the damage was pretty substantial as it was), then Mark's best friend in F1, Fernando Alonso, would have been World Champion.

Malaysia 2013 and Vettel ignoring "multi 21" was surely the payback for Webber ignoring team instructions he was given in Brazil to help his team-mate out. Vettel should have obeyed team orders that day, just as Webber should have been following them in Brazil. Now it's Seb who's suffering the consequences while Mark is seen as the injured party.

It's time for Christian Horner to explain the "circumstances" and before he retires it's time for Mark to answer some awkward questions from journalists. Sky in the UK should get their big monitor out and talk Mark through the start of the race in Brazil 2012 and the re-start. What were his thoughts that day?

Will we ever get the truth? Or will we get more of the post-Singapore PR - making himself out to be the injured party when really he should have had taken more care and about safety. Having been high up in the Grand Prix Drivers' Association that campaigns for safety, you'd think he'd be a bit more contrite. But maybe this doesn't come as such a great surprise to Sebastian Vettel.

Dave Jorgensen

*some have suggested this should be a retrospective drive-through penalty for forcing another driver off the track and 25 seconds added to his time, giving him P6 instead. Imagine Stefano Domenicali's face...
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It was another peerless performance from Vettel and good for Sky's Martin Brundle who told those booing Vettel on the podium: "Please don't do that, that's not correct." Because it's not. Vettel joked that it was Ferrari fans who didn't like him winning all the time, but with 17% of the audience made up of Aussies (figures supplied by the race organisers) it was probably more to do with "Multi 21 Seb". source PlanetF1.com
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written like someone who had made up their mind before "researching" - aka going out and discovering only the relevant bits that bolstered their own opinion
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written like someone who had made up their mind before "researching" - aka going out and discovering only the relevant bits that bolstered their own opinion
Care to elaborate? Do you disagree w/the article?

I personally think Vettel owes Webber no favors as time and time again, Mark has vocally stated that he would not listen to team orders or help Vettel to win a title even if he had been mathematically eliminated from the hunt.

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Thumbs down Villains, and Demons, and F1 drivers! Oh my!

That was a large waste of time for Dave Jorgensen to write that article, for PlanetF1 to publish it, and especially for those of us who have unfortunately read it.

We can see immediately how bad the article will be by its title, "Is the Hero the Villain?". Wasting time demonizing F1 drivers is most often a reflection of a fan's ignorance, and their own emotional issues.

A more thoughtful, objective article on Webber's faults would have been a lovely bit of journalism, and is overdue. Part of the beauty, and popularity of the movie Rush is that it touches upon each character's flaws and strengths and how they each use those flaws and strengths to reach their goals. Vettel and Webber too have their flaws and strengths. But that article failed to get close to any of that... Useless drivel!
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He just won 't give up will he.....
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Yes, I suspect we smell a lot of Bernie, but not much smoke, behind the Rubens rumors. Bernie needs the Brazilian TV audience to be fully staked in his F1 broadcasts with a Brazilian on the grid so he may be stirring this pot behind the scenes.
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Pirelli has been forced to abandon plans for a tyre test with McLaren at Austin a few weeks before this year's grand prix after failing to get the necessary FIA approval.

F1's tyre supplier had hoped to press on with its 2014 tyre preparations at the home of the United States Grand Prix shortly before this November's race.

The venue and date was chosen because McLaren had a car suitable for testing in the United States at that time.

But with rival teams unhappy at the timing - and Force India believed to be particularly concerned about potential benefits its main constructors' championship rival could have from pre-event knowledge - Pirelli has failed to get the sign off it needed from the governing body.

A Pirelli spokesperson confirmed that the test had now been called off, and efforts would be made to rearrange it for a time and venue that everyone will be happy with.

Red Bull team principal Christian Horner felt that testing taking place before a grand prix was a controversial step.

"I think at the venue before a race, arguably it doesn't make sense," he said when asked by AUTOSPORT.

"The most important thing is to have consistency and, with the way that F1 is nowadays, to run any car - even a two-year-old car at a venue before an event - you are going to learn something, even if it is just track conditions.

"After the circuit has been used, it doesn't have a direct impact on that year's championship.

"It is far more palatable and sensible for a test taking place after an event."
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McLaren can't catch a break. Not surprised to find that FI is complaining since they are hot on the heels of Macca and could desperately use that extra cash to bail out Vijay Mallya's businesses. :-p
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as of german sources, Brawn will leave Mercedes at the end of the season.

Rumors are that he will join McLaren and Honda.

http://sportbild.bild.de/SPORT/forme...-mercedes.html
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