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Old 02-19-2013, 09:38 AM   #1
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Default Electrical Issue Forces Bmw To Recall Almost 570,000 Vehicles

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BMW is preparing to recall 504,545 vehicles in the United States along with another 65,000 in Canada to address an electrical issue that could lead to engine stalling.

Models being called back include the 2008-2011 1-Series (coupe and convertible), the 2007-2011 3-Series (sedan, coupe, convertible and wagon) and the 2009-2011 Z4 roadster.

In the affected vehicles, the connector for the positive battery cable connector and the corresponding terminal on the fuse box may degrade over time, potentially leading to a break in the electrical connection between the front-mounted fuse box and the trunk-mounted battery. Should this happen, a loss of vehicle power can occur, causing the engine to stall and increasing the risk of a crash.

One minor collision stemming from the issue has been reported, but BMW says the incident did not result in any injuries.

BMW will begin notifying owners of the recall in March, at which time dealers will replace the positive battery cable connector free of charge..

The recall is BMWs second within a year to address a battery cable-related electrical issue. Last March, the automaker recalled 1.3 million vehicles worldwide (including 367,000 in the U.S.) to fix improperly installed battery cable covers that could cause electrical problems or even vehicle fires.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:56 AM   #2
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"But BMW says the incident did not result in any injuries."



Because that's the most important part about a press release.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:06 PM   #3
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HOORAY! The day after I bought a 1 series
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:51 PM   #4
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It's German; it has electrical issues. Expect it.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:01 PM   #5
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You'll get some BMW service for free.. good times. It's better than the turbo coolant pump sending your old MCS up in flames.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:32 PM   #6
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I still don't understand how "electrical issues" happen on new cars. It's two-thousand-and-****ing-thirteen, why can't things be built properly? This isn't cold fusion. I really just don't understand how VW, for example, can release a car where the sunroof will randomly open and break. I'm sure I'm just ignorant of product design, development, and manufacture, but really. My coffee bean grinder is probably 15 years old and has never caught on fire and killed everyone in the house.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:39 PM   #7
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The Germans like to have 3 different suppliers build every part... this way when one supplier goes belly up the other 2 just increase production. This also means there are 3 times as many quality control issues.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:41 PM   #8
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The Germans like to have 3 different suppliers build every part... this way when one supplier goes belly up the other 2 just increase production. This also means there are 3 times as many quality control issues.
This is also true of Chrysler. My old place of work had amongst other things, the contract to build the circuit board that controlled the wiper motor on the Neon and PT cruiser. We were one of three and made just under 250,000 a year.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:50 AM   #9
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Well, I had to go for the 30k mile service next month, so might as well wait for this recall.
Maybe they can fix the rubber weather strip on the back glass that keeps coming off. Third time is the charm?
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:17 AM   #10
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HOORAY! The day after I bought a 1 series
Talk to me...looking to buy one soon.

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Looking for 08-10...under 50k miles. Prices are too cheap to ignore.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:42 AM   #11
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Insert rag into gas tank.............light it..........move on
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:57 PM   #12
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Sensationalist much?
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:37 PM   #13
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Holy smokes how do you mess up battery connectors? This is a what happens when you nickel and dime every single supplier of parts that make up a car. Costly mistake.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:59 AM   #14
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Looking for 08-10...under 50k miles. Prices are too cheap to ignore.
Mine is an 08 with 46k miles for $25k.... yes... price was too cheap to ignore. I took my MINI in for service and had it in my mind that it was time to start looking for other cars because I HATE driving 50m-1h to the only MINI dealership around for service. I had intended to stop at a Toyota dealership to look at the FR-S, but I walked around the used BMW lot attached to the MINI dealership... saw a 328 and 335 that I liked... then the 135 caught my eye. I took it for a test drive and loved it. The steering is quick and precise, the interior is comfy, the handling is pushy, but livable, and the power is quite nice. The fact that my friends have told me to get a JB4 tuner and put it to nearly 400hp is just silly based on how it feels stock.

It's only been a few days so maybe I'm still in that "honeymoon" phase with the car, but I love it so far.
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I still don't understand how "electrical issues" happen on new cars. It's two-thousand-and-****ing-thirteen, why can't things be built properly? This isn't cold fusion. I really just don't understand how VW, for example, can release a car where the sunroof will randomly open and break. I'm sure I'm just ignorant of product design, development, and manufacture, but really. My coffee bean grinder is probably 15 years old and has never caught on fire and killed everyone in the house.
Integra, this is sort of what I am talking about. Even the most anal of designers make mistakes and Electrical parts are not immune to stupid and weird crap happening.

I write this with a humble and non inflamatory tone of voice.
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Holy smokes how do you mess up battery connectors? This is a what happens when you nickel and dime every single supplier of parts that make up a car. Costly mistake.
Which is odd...

If you look at the battery terminals in the back of my E46, they're ridiculously nicer/expensive/more heafty than the ones you'd find on my Subaru of the same year.
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:43 AM   #17
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Love my '10. Continues to make me grin on a daily basis. Catless, JB4, MT, Supersports = good time.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:35 PM   #19
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Oh well. The electrical failure I'm really worried about is not this, but the electric water pump failure. BMW had a history of water pump problems when they were mechanical, and then they did the brilliant thing and tied it into their history of electrical problems. Now there's a problem that will leave a modern car stranded.
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:15 AM   #20
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Most of the problems with water pumps were due to using plastic impellers. Replace it with a good quality metal impeller and you're fine.

Unless you mean the water pump on the MINIs that caused the recall and the letter that stated "Do not park it in a garage until you have this fixed" That's BMW design too
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:25 PM   #21
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Had my car in to have something checked today and it needed a new battery, so I asked about the recall since they were in there messing with the battery anyway. The service advisor said:

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Look, here's how it is. I've been with BMW for 26 years now, and BMW always does this crap. We don't have the parts for the recall yet. I don't even know when they'll be in... possibly not until next month. I've had conversations with people high up in corporate and told them... if there's going to be a recall GET THE PARTS FIRST... then publish the TSB. But, no, we're stuck without parts. We have people asking about it, and we can't do anything for them. The TSB is nothing major so don't worry about it too much, and as soon as we can get the parts to swap it out you can bring your car in and we'll take care of it for you.
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