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Old 02-09-2015, 12:54 PM   #1
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Default New Wheels, Have a few questions.

So I am planning on replacing the factory steel wheels with some aftermarket wheels. I am looking to get the same size wheels to get same tire sizes so the speedo doesn't get too far off. Mostly doing this for winter functionality so i can dig the snow out. this is a pain to do with current steel wheels. Also it will look much better than the scuffed up hubcaps that are currently installed.
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1. does this make sense?
2. do I need to be wary of anything while doing this aside from the obvious TPS sensor repurposing/replacing potential. I was told I can re-use the current ones on the car with the new wheels.

Currently have 16 inch steel wheels and plan on getting some silver 5 spoke aluminum rims.

I read on another forum the wheels I am looking at are easy to clean and hold up well in the winter time. I don't really have time to wax wheels as others may do but I wash my car in the winter time religiously, with every tank of gas.

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Old 02-09-2015, 01:15 PM   #2
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1. does this make sense?
Not a whole lot. The biggest part of winter functionality is the tires you put on the wheels, not how much snow they collect.

Move your current tires and TPMS hardware to the new wheels and don't let them see snow or ice.

Buy some winter tires to run on your old steel wheels.

However you ended up scuffing your hubcaps, don't do the same thing to your wheels.
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:24 PM   #3
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willtheyfit.com is a great site for determining speedo errors and whatnot when changing tire/rim sizes
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:28 PM   #4
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I got the car last year march. I am not the one who scuffed them. My biggest issue with the steelies is that snow gets packed on the inside throwing them off balance. Not even a car wash can get in there to loosen it up and the car is low enough where i can't get anything in there to clean it without spending an hour jacking up the car and rolling under it to manually clean it out. Most of the reasoning behind the 5 spoke is because I like how they look and it would be easy to get my glove in to scoop out the packed snow to restore most of the balance to the tires. Also my current tires are due for replacement which is why i am looking into this now. I will just be getting decent all seasonal tires for it as I have never been a fan of changing wheels twice a year. Also I ride a bike when it is sunny in the summertime so 1 set of tires and wheels makes sense to me.

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willtheyfit.com is a great site for determining speedo errors and whatnot when changing tire/rim sizes
Just going with same size rims to avoid the hassle. these are the rims i am looking at http://www.1010tires.com/Wheels/Spor...Painted/Silver 16 inch is same size as current so will just get same size tire. 205 55 r16
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:49 PM   #5
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If snow buildup is your main concern, look into 15s.

I'm not sure if they'll clear in your car, but they are factory equipment on the newer base Imprezas.
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Old 02-09-2015, 02:18 PM   #6
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If snow buildup is your main concern, look into 15s.

I'm not sure if they'll clear in your car, but they are factory equipment on the newer base Imprezas.
stock wheel size on this exact car is 16 so that's the size I am getting. I am not really questioning what size of rim to get but rather is there any concerns with getting the wheels I am looking at.

So far I have not heard any major concerns other than road salt which should not be a problem due to frequently washing my car in the winter time.

Really itching to buy this afternoon and will likely pull the trigger if I cannot find any major reason not to other than cost.
As stated tires are due for replacement, and I will be able to re-use the TPS sensors off of current wheels, will either keep the steelies as emergency wheels in the event one of the aftermarket wheels gets destroyed. I don't see this happening but crap happens. As the saying goes... plan for the worst and hope for the best.
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:22 PM   #7
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Just dropped $190 on four brand new TPMS sensors. figured i already had to replace one on the old wheels I might as well do it right from the start on the new wheels.
Now last question.

Can someone recommend me a good all seasonal tire that will still have plenty of grip in the winter and not get eaten up in the summer? Size 205 55/R16.
budget between $70 and $120 per tire. Thanks
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Old 02-15-2015, 10:59 AM   #8
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Just dropped $190 on four brand new TPMS sensors. figured i already had to replace one on the old wheels I might as well do it right from the start on the new wheels.
Now last question.

Can someone recommend me a good all seasonal tire that will still have plenty of grip in the winter and not get eaten up in the summer? Size 205 55/R16.
budget between $70 and $120 per tire. Thanks
if you truly live in minnesota, get winter tires. Don't be a danger to you and those around you. you can put them on you old steel wheels and get a nice set of summer tires for you new alloys
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:27 AM   #9
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if you truly live in minnesota, get winter tires. Don't be a danger to you and those around you. you can put them on you old steel wheels and get a nice set of summer tires for you new alloys
The more dangerous thing is people not knowing how to drive and not slowing down. I have been running all seasonals since i could drive so I am quite used to it and have not been in an accident or went in the ditch yet. Ran a saturn sl2 for 6 years with all seasonals and never had an issue. Plus if you had read the thread the main purpose of getting the alloys is so i could run in the winter and actually be able to dig out snow from the wheels. The steel wheels are a PROBLEM for me right now and is why they are being replaced with the alloys. I know the tradeoffs of running alloys in the winter time and I have already accepted them. I will say AGAIN. I am not looking to swap wheels twice a year. I want to be at work, look outside and see snow for the first time in the year and think, bring it on I am ready. I don't want to think, oh crap now i have to take the time to dig out my other wheels and spend more time freezing my fingers off swapping wheels...

I appreciate you suggesting winter tires as they are better for the winter time. but as of right now I do not need them nor do I feel like getting TWO sets of tires right now as opposed to just getting the all seasonal tires.
On a scale of 1 to 10 for tire material, 1 being the best winter tire. 5 being all seasonal and 10 being summer tire that is not good for even rain. I would be looking for a 3 or a 4, if that makes any sense. As stated summer use on the car will be limited as I mostly ride the motorcycle in the summer but will still need the car for rainy days or going out with friends.

So in summary 1. I don't want winter tires at present time. 2. I don't want to run my steel wheels in winter at present time. and 3. I am just looking for a good set of all seasonal tire.
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Old 02-17-2015, 01:54 PM   #10
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Anyone? Good all year tire recommendation?
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The more dangerous thing is people not knowing how to drive and not slowing down.
People like you are why my commute in light snow this morning took an hour and 40 minutes. "Knowing how to drive" doesn't mean limping around at 17 MPH.

In Minnesota, "All-seasons" doesn't apply. They're made for occasional dips below freezing and at -40F, they'll turn into hockey pucks just like summer tires.

You live in one of the coldest states in the country. If you're too lazy to swap wheels twice a year and you're on the bike most of the summer, then just run winter tires year round. Occasional trips in temperate weather won't hurt them too badly.

Take it from people who've used all seasons and winter tires, and can comment from experience.
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Old 02-17-2015, 03:34 PM   #12
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People like you are why my commute in light snow this morning took an hour and 40 minutes. "Knowing how to drive" doesn't mean limping around at 17 MPH.

In Minnesota, "All-seasons" doesn't apply. They're made for occasional dips below freezing and at -40F, they'll turn into hockey pucks just like summer tires.

You live in one of the coldest states in the country. If you're too lazy to swap wheels twice a year and you're on the bike most of the summer, then just run winter tires year round. Occasional trips in temperate weather won't hurt them too badly.

Take it from people who've used all seasons and winter tires, and can comment from experience.
I think you have me confused with someone else. I said people who DON'T know how to drive, as in granny that is going out for her morning coffee with half inch of snow on the ground doing 30mph in the 55 zone. That is most likely what took up your commute time.

I was simply asking for a good recommendation for an all season tire and all I get is people telling me I am wrong for doing so. Me and the rest of my immediate family have always run all seasonal tires in MN since before I was born.

I appreciate your advice keen, and I do eventually want to get winter tires, but the need for all seasonal tire is heavily outweighing the winter tire need as well as budget limitations. Here's my game plan for right now I NEED all seasonal tires to put on my new wheels. Then run those for a year ish or so and when the budget permits get myself another set of wheels (because I HATE the steelies for winter use) and get some winter tires for those bad boys.
Running winter tires in the summer time is also NOT an option. I accidentally ran some used winter tires in the summer and they got ate up quicker than expected. Don't want to wear a tire down and waste money away. I am moving within the next 2 or 3 months and budget is very limited. Once that is done and I am settled in I can look for some good winter tires and have the summer to save up for them.

So with that said I will most likely end up getting some cooper tires right now as those are what were on the car before and they ride nice. when the time comes for winter tires I understand bridgestone blizzak is kinda the tire to go with? Getting all seasonals right now is my best option anyway as winter is nearing its end. "hopefully" I really don't want to get winter tires right now and have to worry about how badly they are getting chewed up in the summer, considering business trips are always a possibility where the bike isn't an option when I have to carry 3 bags of stuff on top of 1 or 2 boxes. Kinda hard to do on a bike. Not to mention the business trips can range anywhere from 100 to 1500 miles round trip. Not a good idea to do in summer on winter tires.

I hope this post didn't come off as too snooty as I appreciate all the recommendations given so far. Just slightly irritated at nobody giving me an answer for my specific situation right now.

So question summary:
Bridgestone blizzak snow tires. The best there are? yes or no?
Cooper CS4 tires be good to run until winter tires are on the immediate to buy list?
Any other thoughts?

Thanks everyone for the comments thus far.
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Old 02-17-2015, 04:09 PM   #13
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I've not personally run them, but Continental DWS seem to be a favorite for people who must use all seasons in snow and ice.

I run Michelin X-Ice2. They're great performers, long-lived and well liked on tire rack.

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Old 02-17-2015, 04:30 PM   #14
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I've not personally run them, but Continental DWS seem to be a favorite for people who must use all seasons in snow and ice.

I run Michelin X-Ice2. They're great performers, long-lived and well liked on tire rack.
The DWS was on my radar but have not heard much of anything about them. although i think continental is the brand of tires I just put on the bike last year

Thanks again Keen. Say, have you ever ordered an entire set of wheels+tires+sensors from tire rack? I see they have a winter package, just wondering if it would be cheaper than getting all parts separate if i order them all together when the time comes.
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I haven't. For me, Costco wins on logistics and price most of the time, so I haven't bothered with tirerack.

If tirerack can get you everything mounted, balanced and ready to bolt on, delivered to your door, that might be the way to go.
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Old 02-18-2015, 02:28 PM   #16
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I haven't. For me, Costco wins on logistics and price most of the time, so I haven't bothered with tirerack.

If tirerack can get you everything mounted, balanced and ready to bolt on, delivered to your door, that might be the way to go.
Tire rack seems to have very good pricing if this was the case, unfortunately i spread out the purchases to take less of a toll on my pocket book.

I ordered some Cooper CS3 tires through a local shop that will be installing them for me. Also performing the alignment right away. Little more than I thought but not complaining as this shop has excellent customer service and is providing road hazard protection for the life of the tire, including accidental damage, and free tire rotations.
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OK, this is enough to make me go from your best friend to your most pissed off customer of the day.
Had the tires mounted and everything yesterday and everything is smooth as butter.
I get 2 miles from home and the TPMS light starts flashing. I take it in this morning and it looks like somehow all the sensors are bad as the shops TPMS tool can't even get a reading.

Ordered these off of rock auto which lists compatibility with the exact model of my car.
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...nid=382&jpid=5

Do I call them and chew them out for sending me some crappy defective sensors or did i do something wrong? Mind you all 4 sensors were purchased brand new from rockauto.com and installed by a professional shop.
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People like you are why my commute in light snow this morning took an hour and 40 minutes. "Knowing how to drive" doesn't mean limping around at 17 MPH.

In Minnesota, "All-seasons" doesn't apply. They're made for occasional dips below freezing and at -40F, they'll turn into hockey pucks just like summer tires.

You live in one of the coldest states in the country. If you're too lazy to swap wheels twice a year and you're on the bike most of the summer, then just run winter tires year round. Occasional trips in temperate weather won't hurt them too badly.

Take it from people who've used all seasons and winter tires, and can comment from experience.



This.


However, if you must, I've known 3 or 4 people with continental dws's. Most of them switch to winter tires as they should, but i know they have gotten caught in snow before switching and said they are decent.
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However, if you must, I've known 3 or 4 people with continental dws's. Most of them switch to winter tires as they should, but i know they have gotten caught in snow before switching and said they are decent.
Thanks for the input!

Well as stated I already had Cooper CS3's installed on my new wheels. I could tell right away yesterday "dry tar" there was more grip. And talk about perfect timing this morning I woke up and there was a good dusting of snow on the ground. Definitely more grip there as well. Which there should be when comparing a ~15-20% tread tire to a 100% tread. lol

Now all I have to do is figure out if the shop screwed up my sensors. The chances of all the sensors being bad from the start is highly unlikely...
Going to go to another shop for a second opinion as this shop is a jack of all trades shop, transmissions, tires, oil changes, etc.
Wish me luck...
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