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Old 02-13-2014, 03:57 AM   #76
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:14 PM   #77
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http://blog.axisofoversteer.com/2014...-catching.html

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Remember when the first batch of Ferrari 458 came out with a tendency to spontaneously combust?

You sort of expect this from Italian exotics but zee Germans? They are serious people who would never make engineering mistakes, would they?

What is the world coming to: There are reports Porsche has suspended deliveries of all 991 GT3 until they figure out why they catch on fire with alarming regularity.

Details are sparse but there is no doubt one was incinerated in Switzerland recently, the report is from the straight from the St.Gallen cantonal police web site:

On Wednesday (02/05/2014), at 11 clock, a Porsche has caught on fire on the Wilerstrasse. Firefighters were able to extinguish the fire. The car suffered a total loss in the amount of CHF 200'000.

A Porsche GT3 drove on the A1 highway towards St.Gallen. When the driver perceived strange noises from the engine area, he left the highway. On the Wilerstrasse the driver stopped the car. He saw leaking oil and smoke is in the rear engine. A short time later the Porsche caught fire. The fire was extinguished by the fire department. The cause of the fire will be investigated by the Forensic Science Service of the Canton of St. Gallen police.

But this was not a isolated case , apparently five cars have gone up in smoke under similar circumstances in recent weeks. This was posted on the Rennteam forum

I am the administrator of Porsche Club Campania, an Italian Porsche club.
A member of our Club last Saturday was near Avellino, in the south of Italy, his gt3 was really new, just 60kms. First the warning LOW OIL PRESSURE in the display and after few seconds his GT3 was burning.
The gt3 DESTROYED is now at the PORSCHE CENTER NAPOLI and this morning an engineer from Stuttgart came here to see the car. It is the 5th gt3 in Europe that burned with the same problem. It seems that Porsche already know where is the problem but I don't know if the dealer will be able to fix the problem. I will keep you updated.

Not confirmed but via a friend of Axis who is well connected with all things Porsche comes this:

Effective immediately and until further notice, delivery of any new 2014 911 GT3 units must be suspended. This Stop Sale action is being taken in order to investigate a quality issue that potentially exists with the engine of the subject vehicles. While additional details are not readily available, please know this matter is of the highest priority in the Porsche organization

Maybe keeping that Mezger engines on the Supercup cars was a good idea.
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:39 PM   #78
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:47 PM   #79
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Notice how no one will question whether Porsche's design philosophy is flawed, but Tesla's Model S catches fire twice and zomgelectriccarsaredangerous!!1
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Notice how no one will question whether Porsche's design philosophy is flawed
Said no one ever


Their philosophy since day one has been questionable at best.
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Old 02-18-2014, 12:34 AM   #81
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Said no one ever

Their philosophy since day one has been questionable at best.
Yeah, that's why they're so unsuccessful and unpopular....
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Old 02-18-2014, 12:37 AM   #82
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You sort of expect this from Italian exotics but zee Germans? They are serious people who would never make engineering mistakes, would they?
Umm.. VAG invented the carBQ.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:05 AM   #83
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Tesla will definitely be looking into this Tesla S too.

Oops, wrong car manufacturer.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:11 AM   #84
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At least it didn't happen during Chris Harris's review.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:43 AM   #85
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Maybe it SHOULD have happened during his review. Right after the obligatory, "That sound. Whoohoohooo listen to that engine!"

Poof!
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Old 02-18-2014, 12:11 PM   #86
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Speaking of which, didn't something similar happen on Fifth Gear or something? I thought that the Caparo caught on fire once with the other guy (not Tiff Nedell).
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:55 PM   #88
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http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ll-be-replaced

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No carmaker is infallible, and Porsche has found that out the hard way with a series of fires in its 2014 911 GT3.

Now, the German sports car manufacturer has announced how it's solving the problem: It will replace the engines on every single 2014 model year GT3 sold--a full 785 vehicles. As recalls go, the correctional measures are fairly extreme--and is sure to cost Porsche a fortune, despite the relatively small number of vehicles involved--but could be the best way of curtailing further fire-related embarrassments for the company.

WATCH: World's Longest Car Jump Attempt Ends In Fierce Crash: Video

Porsche has confirmed the issue that caused at least two 911 GT3s to catch fire in February, prompting the firm to stop sales and recall every vehicle sold for inspection. The fires were caused by engine damage relating to a loosened fastener on a connecting rod. The loose connecting rod damaged the crankcase, which in both cases caused oil leaks that led to the fires. The newly-fitted engines use "optimized fasteners" to prevent the issue recurring, and will be fitted to all GT3s from now on, not just those recalled.

No traffic accidents nor personal injuries were caused by the fires, and Porsche reiterates that no other 911 model is affected by the GT3's problem. The company is in direct communication with owners to discuss further courses of action.
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^^That is brutal! Hope no one here had to be first!
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While it sucks to the bottom line, VW made a lot of margin on models such as these particular Porsche's and trim levels, it probably financially wouldn't put them in the red either.

I'd also say, it goes a long way to address repeat buyers too
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While it sucks to the bottom line, VW made a lot of margin on models such as these particular Porsche's and trim levels, it probably financially wouldn't put them in the red either.

I'd also say, it goes a long way to address repeat buyers too
The big margin at Porsche is on the Cayenne, not the 911s.
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That doesn't mean that the 911 lineup doesn't turn nice profits for them. Unless you really think that red seatbelts really cost $500 more while HIDs really cost $2000.
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That doesn't mean that the 911 lineup doesn't turn nice profits for them. Unless you really think that red seatbelts really cost $500 more while HIDs really cost $2000.
I imagine the disruption to the production line caused by the countless options Porsche offers makes every option cost more than you'd expect.

Seriously, find another carmaker with as many options.

BTW, LED lights on a 6-series cost $1,900.
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Again, it doesn't mean that they aren't turning profits on it. They're certainly not pricing it to lose money or break even on it. And tons and tons of custom orders, whether from individuals or dealerships, are coming in regardless, so it's not as if they are having to put the whole factory on pause because of one order included the heated steering wheel.

At this point, it's probably less common to find two identically equipped 911s these days anyway, given the options and customization. Frankly, it might even be more of a disruption to the production line when an order comes in for a completely base model with zero options since there are probably so few of those around, and that doesn't get them any extra money.
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