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Old 03-04-2013, 08:16 PM   #1
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Default Potential buyer with a couple of question.

Hows it going everyone. Im currently in the car hunt right now for another performance car. I have had a couple different cars over the years so Im not new to the performance car market.

Im currently looking at a 2013 WRX. Ive test drove it and I really like the car. Ive been looking around here for the past couple of hours and there is something that gets me. I was expecting these cars to make 400whp with basic bolt ons but that seams its not the case. It looks like 350 is a big deal around here. I wanted a mid 400whp car but it seams like you cant achieve that level of performance without a built motor.

Is this the case? I was expecting to do a turbo swap, fuel upgrades, clutch and bolt ons to achieve that level of power. If someone can help me with figuring out a couple of things that would be awesome.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:18 PM   #2
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People stop in the mid 300s because the transmissions are made out of glass. Make closer to 400whp and you're on borrowed time.

Also, seems. Seams are what you have in clothing, between two pieces of welded metal, etc.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:21 PM   #3
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400 hp is just a number. there are plenty of threads about this.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:30 PM   #4
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400hp in a 6 bazillion pound car means nothing.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:34 PM   #5
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People stop in the mid 300s because the transmissions are made out of glass. Make closer to 400whp and you're on borrowed time.

Also, seems. Seams are what you have in clothing, between two pieces of welded metal, etc.

Ah yes that is the wrong seems lol

So I guess its safe to say the motor can handle the power its the transmission thats the weak link. Well I guess I should research alittle more. I know what I want out of the car I just want to be resonable in doing it. Buying a new car and just rebuilding the motor and transmission to make me happy with how it runs is alittle rediculous in my eyes. What are guys with mid 300s running in the quarter?
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:37 PM   #6
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If your quarter mile time concerns you more than your driveability then you are looking at the wrong car. Wrx is a race car not a drag car. Go find a twisty road and go nuts, the car will shine. If this is not you, get something else.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:46 PM   #7
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a stage 2 or 3 on the newer wrx and sti is no slouch. they can run high to mid 12s with the right driving and conditions. you are right though, 400 whp is a stretch without a pretty large turbo and supporting mods. 400 chp is more obtainable.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:08 PM   #8
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Man this is harder than I thought. I guess my expectations were to high to start with. I was hoping high 11s was achievable without a built motor but it looks I was way off. I guess that's why you ask questions before you make a purchase. I just don't want to buy one, mod one and be unimpressed is I guess the word. I just really don't consider 300whp impressive.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:23 PM   #9
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I think general consensus would be to go drive one and reconsider what you consider impressive! 300hp in rwd feels a lot different from 300hp in awd. Each person has their own preferences and expectations and what "floats their boat". give it a shot! You might actually enjoy it. Coming from a '08 535i (twin turbo, mind you) I didn't think something with single turbo and much less power and torque would "do it" for me. But everything changes. Sometimes I miss the European refinement and all the creature comforts, but I thoroughly enjoy the rawness and connectedness far more.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:11 AM   #10
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Maybe so. I used to own a 500whp c6 corvette so that's what I am basing some of my expectations off of I guess. The 2013 wrx I drove was stock and it felt very impressive from the seat of my pants. Maybe I should find someone with a modded one and have them take me for a ride.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:19 AM   #11
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Maybe so. I used to own a 500whp c6 corvette so that's what I am basing some of my expectations off of I guess. The 2013 wrx I drove was stock and it felt very impressive from the seat of my pants. Maybe I should find someone with a modded one and have them take me for a ride.

You drove a bone stock WRX making less than half of what your (supposedly) 500whp Vette made, and you were very impressed. The 2013 WRX makes 265bhp, less about ~20% for drivetrain is 210awhp. What makes you think that you need another 200whp?? Just for the number?
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:42 AM   #12
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You drove a bone stock WRX making less than half of what your (supposedly) 500whp Vette made, and you were very impressed. The 2013 WRX makes 265bhp, less about ~20% for drivetrain is 210awhp. What makes you think that you need another 200whp?? Just for the number?
First I want to clarify. I was impressed with what is was. I didn't think it would feel that fast with only 265 hp. I know it was no where as fast as my Vette

Second I want that extra power cause that's just what I want plain and simple. Some people enjoy the cars stock, I personally would enjoy the accerlaeration the extra power would give me. My Vette ran a best time of 11.5 at 125. If the WRX never went that fast that's cool as long as I can get close I think I will be happy. I mean it will mainly be a street car with very occasional track use. ( like once a month at the local strip)
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:35 AM   #13
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You don't even OWN a Subaru yet, you are putting the cart about 6 months ahead of the horse.
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